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Powen- How about Solutions Barbados?

 
sudden 2017-01-07 10:38:18 

Bim's newest political party headed by a Cawmerian, Grenville Philips, a good lad but not the type of personality one would associate with being a politician.

it seems as though i will have to volunteer my services. i know Grenville very well but have not seen him in ages.

it is a weird name for political party and a name change will be the first order of business.

the next thing should be a party constitution which should be short and sweet- speaking to a general fairness across all spectrum of administration

the party should try to recruit people from the racial and social make up of Bim- it is high time white and indians bajans get involved in Bim political life

speak to what the party hope to achieve if elected, in every day language

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-07 10:52:54 

In reply to sudden

As is the case elsewhere there's no room for a third party. ..unless one of the existing two dies. ..in which case it then becomes the second party.

 
sudden 2017-01-07 10:58:57 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

i know this, mate. but you never know, do you. DLP was born from the BLP and it succeeded up to this point but Philips is no Barrow big grin

 
black 2017-01-07 12:01:51 

In reply to sudden

Run Sudden run.

Bajans would love their new Bajan/Czech First Lady.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-07 12:09:48 

In reply to black

Too much drama. Keep he and Devin away from Bim.

 
openning 2017-01-07 12:11:49 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

lol lol

 
sudden 2017-01-07 12:19:12 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

be careful. i could revoke your ability to play on those courts, you know

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-07 12:35:07 

In reply to sudden

They are not the only courts in bim

 
sudden 2017-01-07 12:40:28 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

ok. just keep that in mind

 
powen001 2017-01-07 14:01:36 

In reply to sudden

Grenville aint getting anywhere with that folly about Business persons only and employing 10 or more people.

I like Grenville but as always Grenville is too myopic.

Freundel is still way ahead of everyone else in the history of Barbados since 1627 to be the worst leader of all time.

yall should celebrate.

 
sudden 2017-01-07 14:22:48 

In reply to powen001

yeah that is an odd stipulation. it isnt like every problem has a business solution.


BTW you see how we Cawmerians does solve we own problem? the group that inspected Cawmere and solved the issue were all Cawmerians

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-07 14:25:34 

In reply to sudden

I suspect it was Cawmerians who fcuked up in the first place. Lol big grin

 
powen001 2017-01-07 14:46:02 

In reply to sudden

Lets give this new school term the attention before we go declaring victory just yet.

everybody aint convinced just yet...lots of weeks of learning lost and no idea how the children will cover that lost time...so lets wait an see...allyuh favorite phrase of non action.

 
powen001 2017-01-07 14:47:24 

In reply to sudden

see if you can get Kellman to hush he stupid offiensive mouth on facebook while you at it too.

Man tell a poster to come to St Lucy and repeat what he posted to him this week self...Kellman more stupid than what Paddy from Barclays shoot at. big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-07 14:53:13 

In reply to powen001

i heard it was you he he dared to come Moontown hahaha. why dont you go?

that would be fight of the shortmen at Moontown big grin

 
powen001 2017-01-07 18:33:38 

In reply to sudden

not in my nature...there are so many posts of people cussing your government stink stink stink that I dont have to do squat but correct them on points of Ministry and Ministers names...quite laughable if it wasnt so serious...but you know..as Froon says this is all a temporary inconvenience and we behaving like we never saw Potholes in the roads before.

I hope you have a spare room for him when he gets fired in a few months.

 
Courtesy 2017-01-07 18:40:00 

In reply to powen001

...I hope you have a spare room for him when he gets fired in a few months.


Powen again...archives time. You aint tired of firing Mr. Stuart?

lol lol lol

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-07 18:51:08 

In reply to Courtesy

Stuart was declared Barbados's first 1 term prime minister smile smile

But like Obama survived McConnell Freundel survived

 
Courtesy 2017-01-07 18:52:13 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

lol lol lol

I have all of Powen's mouthings and utterings before the last election.

 
powen001 2017-01-07 19:22:06 

In reply to Courtesy

you should start to post them as soon as elections call..which should be at the last possible legal moment that he can.

And I stand by everything I posted then too mate...

The man is the worst leader Barbados ever had...thats ez an the evidence is so steep that theres no mountain in Bim that could hide it.

that Fuzzy keeps comparing this idiot we have to Obama is still laughable at this stage.

 
Courtesy 2017-01-07 19:43:50 

In reply to powen001

powen001 6/27/12 8:10:01 PM

In reply to sudden

fair enough...but its too little and too late..

people cant wait to dump Freundel.

hoping Chris keeps his seat and Estwick.

Mara will be a liability..and weaken that strong hold in St John...mark my words.

Lashley will be lucky..

and Donville..if not caught up in the swing may survive..he was a good worker.

remember this post.


lol lol lol

 
Courtesy 2017-01-07 19:47:03 

powen001 1/27/13 11:07:16 AM

In reply to sudden

fully aware that you are against the return of Affuh.

yuh PARO!!

and that is exactly why you gine need some medication in a few weeks.

FUMBLE barely stretching out the inevitable.

I want you to read the othr comments too..see the front page while yuh at it...

Freundel is the Best FRIEND of the BLP with his leadership...

thanks


lol lol lol

(Mighty Grynner singing) "We want more Powen we want more..."

big grin

 
tc1 2017-01-08 12:33:33 

In reply to powen001

lol lol: lol: u got the BBM with a lot of drama and the Bear on the run this morning.

 
che 2017-01-08 18:33:20 

In reply to powen001

Lets give this (new school) term the attention before we go declaring victory just yet


Whe u mate culpepper.... perp suggest nedda building solution ent

lol lol lol

 
seaegg99 2017-01-09 16:33:17 

In reply to Courtesy

Went home to Bim for Independence and all you hear is folks complaining about everything. Buddies that are staunch DLP, held out last election, but want change right now. Can't remember ever seeing roads this bad.

 
sudden 2017-01-09 19:01:38 

In reply to seaegg99

should be an easy win for the BLP but wid MEEEAH as leader anything can happen

 
powen001 2017-01-09 20:53:30 

In reply to Courtesy

lol lol

yuh good..

And I stand by them words...

only today I heard a woman on air sayin she apologizing to Mara now...cause she aint voting for her again.

Freundel will stretch it out..and I hope he reads this post and calls elections early..JUST to prove me wrong. big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-10 07:11:59 

In reply to powen001

you have been wrong before you may be wronger now

 
Courtesy 2017-01-10 07:29:54 

In reply to sudden

you have been wrong before you may be wronger now

Powen uses his emotional capabilities to think.

lol lol lol

 
powen001 2017-01-11 15:41:34 

In reply to sudden

I aint mind wunnuh jokers...

The Dems revolting in droves and secret agent Donville Inniss sticking the knife in daily!!


and now...DEVALUATION chat is hitting main stream news...its been on the cards for a few years now...but this hapless pack of jokers will see us all suffer the worst before they are kicked out on their collective asses...

 
nick2020 2017-01-11 16:14:22 

In reply to powen001

Powen serious question:

What will the BLP do differently that will improve the country's affairs?

I always find it so amusing that people are hard line Bees or Dems. There are no philosophical differences between the two parties like in the US.

 
powen001 2017-01-11 16:17:12 

In reply to nick2020

you so wrong on your premise that it makes it difficult to even pretend to answer.


Tell me what is the similarity between Freundel Stuart and Owen Arthur?

and dont be cute...

 
nick2020 2017-01-11 16:18:44 

In reply to Courtesy

I once asked powen if we blame everything bad on the DLP do we then give them credit for the huge increase in visitors the the island?

I am yet to make sense of his responses.

 
nick2020 2017-01-11 16:23:45 

In reply to powen001

What kind of response is that?

Simple one for you powen:

List the differences powen.

For example in the US the two parties pander to bases that have dramatically different views on issues like welfare, abortion, military, gay marriage, immigration, etc. We do not have this in Barbados.

Our politicians go up on a stage in the village and talk a bunch of nonsense and want a vote.

 
powen001 2017-01-11 16:44:09 

In reply to nick2020

you are politically naive and you bore me...honestly.

I am not interested in bantering with you on this Nick...

There are fundamental differences between the GOP and the Left...always have been there and are still very much there...for some reason Trump has pulled some orange wool over your eyes.


I asked you a simple question and you aint answer so...buzz off...IF you feel Freundel Stuart is the same as Owen Arthur...all the bloody evidence shows you clearly they aint even in the same bloody building but your DLP loving self can stay in that Pot hole until the Asphalt is poured in..

 
nick2020 2017-01-11 17:19:16 

In reply to powen001

powen seriously you answered a question with a question. That makes sense to you?

And not even a related question that exposes me but a totally useless one.

I guess I have been dismissed so I will walk back to the pavilion. Umpire juk me.

 
Courtesy 2017-01-11 17:37:50 

In reply to nick2020

I can see there is a fundamental difference between yourself and Powen:

One is short on brains and thinks with an abundance of emotion and the other applies a more pragmatic and reasoned approach.

Third umpire says NOT OUT. Nick you can resume your innings and expose de skunt some more.

I have de video evidence of this...

lol lol lol

 
nick2020 2017-01-11 17:39:40 

In reply to Courtesy

lol lol lol

Last election I sat down and read the BLP manifesto and the DLP manifesto. A family member asked what on earth I doing. Our system is very broken and these interactions with powen help me understand why.

 
Courtesy 2017-01-11 17:48:04 

powen001 1/20/13 12:09:11 PM

In reply to sudden

ahm

statistically..Advocate..sells 1 paper compared to the Nation selling about 25.

dont take my word for it..just the FACTS.

again..you lost in the wind.

someone posted on FB..a BLP meeting..chockful of people and especially young people.

cut to a pic of a DLP meeting..ppl older than our parents in the lil meagre audiences..lololol

boy wunnuh pathetic bad!!

take licks..Sudden..I genuinely know that I aint gine see you for a long spell after the polls close

 
Courtesy 2017-01-11 17:49:30 

In reply to nick2020

lol lol lol

Last election I sat down and read the BLP manifesto and the DLP manifesto. A family member asked what on earth I doing. Our system is very broken and these interactions with powen help me understand why.

Way to go mate. Never think with your bottom and make an ass of yourself like Powen during the last election.

big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-11 19:16:03 

the only difference between the BLP and DLP is a letter.

 
nick2020 2017-01-11 19:46:46 

In reply to sudden

I can never make sense of your friend powen. His retorts just never make sense.

What would comparing and contrasting two Prime Ministers have to do with the ideology of a party? Stewart was anything like Thompson? By powen's own admission Thompson, a DLP leader, was not the same as Stewart.

I try not to study it. But knowing we went to the same school is worrying.

 
sudden 2017-01-11 20:04:33 

In reply to nick2020

Listen unnuh caan get between me and Powen especially the likes of you who dissed me the other day.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-11 20:07:56 

In reply to nick2020

Serves you right. I stopped engaging years ago big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-11 20:31:52 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

You stopped engaging cos you don't have any counter arguments. Say what unnuh like bout Powen but he tries to defend his positions however weak and he is not afraid to be wrong

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-12 03:48:58 

In reply to sudden

....You next

 
sudden 2017-01-12 07:00:50 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

never thought i would say this but you are coming over like a coward.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-12 07:14:28 

In reply to sudden

That's ok. That's preferable to engaging in mindless debate for drawing attention. We are who we are

 
sudden 2017-01-12 07:23:57 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

you have to lighten up, Fuzzy. chill out, mate. life is not that serious. laugh a little will you. live it like how you play tennis

 
powen001 2017-01-12 11:08:27 

In reply to sudden

y

ou have to lighten up, Fuzzy. chill out, mate. life is not that serious. laugh a little will you. live it like how you play tennis


HA HA HAH HA HA HA

you mean the big foolish wind up...nuff blowing and the balls barely whiffs back over the net???



ha ha ha ha ha ha THAT is your drinking Buddy!!


And Fuzzy stop cause I called a spade a spade...and he is a devoted DEM...even if we end up with devalued dollar...Fuzzy in the camp of Excuses galore and spin spin spin ..

stand there..sorry..let me quote tommpy...

Wait an see.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-12 11:50:26 

In reply to sudden

If you think I am consumed by what you and the idiot think wunnuh more delusional than I thought.

 
sudden 2017-01-12 12:03:12 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

what's the matter now Fuzzy?

 
Tryangle 2017-01-12 12:03:18 

As someone who left Barbados before voting in any election, I am curious as to the fundamental differences between the BLP and DLP, my following of Barbadian politics pretty much vanished around the time that Clyde Mascoll switched parties.

I read a Nation editorial from last year to see if I could get some insight. I don't know if it's accurate (the best way is to have feet on the ground, so to speak), but am genuinely curious as to the idealogical differences, if any.

 
sudden 2017-01-12 12:14:41 

the difference that exists between the D and BLP is one of personality and not ideology

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-12 12:43:16 

In reply to sudden

I am cool Mr sudden. Doan fret big grin big grin

 
tc1 2017-01-12 13:43:43 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

I was not following any the postings, but we can count on you and the short man to keep the Sudden honest

lol lol

 
sudden 2017-01-12 14:02:23 

In reply to tc1

since big mout Fuzzy tell you who i am you got bare mout big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-12 14:21:02 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

thank god that you are ok. Powen and i were really concerned.


Powen
Fuzzy is all right. no need to make that call

 
nick2020 2017-01-12 16:44:47 

In reply to sudden

Different personality, same policies.

You really feel the next administration going change dat 17.5% VAT back to 15%?

Owen proposed flyovers. Bajans and his own party reject it talk bout we going look like Trinidad.
Thompson proposed gambling on docked ship. Bajans and own party reject it.

I guess people prefer being stuck in traffic and gambling on land.

 
TheTrail 2017-01-12 19:02:24 

This is the difference:

Link Text



And this:

Link Text

smile

 
tc1 2017-01-12 21:40:27 

In reply to TheTrail

the short man was the 2nd best PM we ever had

 
che 2017-01-12 22:14:23 

In reply to tc1

De 1st and 3rd is ????

lol

 
tc1 2017-01-12 23:00:57 

In reply to che

The fist is always the best

lol lol

 
che 2017-01-12 23:40:07 

In reply to tc1

powen powder puff threat to democracy lol lol lol

 
TheTrail 2017-01-13 00:00:07 

In reply to tc1

Yeah. In this order

Barrow

Arthur

Thompson

Barbados is not ready for a uman prime minister.


Read this quote.

So while the BLP, the official opposition, tears itself to pieces in the public domain, we, the electorate, are the ones that suffer as our choice between a lacklustre government and an opposition apparently committed to the political party equivalent of civil war/suicide, does not offer the electorate of Barbados the choice to which we are entitled and that we must now demand of our candidates for Parliament.

Political posturing aside, under Owen Arthur there was a unified BLP, but the rot set in as soon as the BLP lost the last election and Owen Arthur, as is custom, resigned leadership of the party. It was up to his successor, Mottley, to step in and heal the divisions. Indeed, any person stepping in had the obligation to heal the breaches. But to do that, there would have been a necessity for give and take and a leader capable of compromise and accommodation within reason. Too long has passed and the fracture is now a gaping chasm, which suggests that Mottley lacks either the willingness or the capacity (or both) to heal the breaches or is herself leading the demolition. We note that Payne vs Hinkson is still outstanding and no successful mediation had been achieved or, as far as we are aware, even taken place, to resolve this peacefully, quietly and to the benefit of the electorate.

 
sudden 2017-01-13 06:46:08 

In reply to TheTrail

all i can say is that all parties fight when in opposition especially following a stint in power.

Thompson was my mate but his time as PM was too short to count towards a rating as a PM. mind you had he continued only Barrow would have topped him

 
tc1 2017-01-13 09:27:52 

In reply to sudden

Thompson was my mate but his time as PM was too short to count towards a rating as a PM. mind you had he continued only Barrow would have topped him


R U serious,from my limited knowledge, David was all hype

 
sudden 2017-01-13 09:31:16 

In reply to tc1

key words- limited knowledge

 
nick2020 2017-01-13 12:37:10 

In reply to sudden

all i can say is that all parties fight when in opposition especially following a stint in power.


More like the idiot children of slaves only know divide and conquer.

As much disdain powen has for the DLP and Stewart notice the jackals who looked to undermine him were quelled while Mia was usurped. What does it say about a leader who was replaced on the dawn of an election by his/her own party?

The promise of a politician is comfort for fools. And powen. Or powen. Either way.

 
powen001 2017-01-13 15:34:42 

In reply to sudden

lol

big grin

 
powen001 2017-01-13 15:36:15 

In reply to tc1

From my experience...DAVID was ALL HYPE.

And Sudden and all of Fuzzys horses cant dispute my personal dealings with the man..


TOMMPY was fluff, smoke and mirrors...that was my experience of him.

 
powen001 2017-01-13 15:37:40 

In reply to TheTrail

you are a kid so that you dont have either ADAMS in there is proof alone.

you need to go read your History and not just blogs

 
sudden 2017-01-13 15:48:33 

In reply to powen001

for all of Tom's oratorical brilliance he was a vindictive and callow person. ever wonder why he was killed sorry how he died? he almost lost Bim to Cow in gambling debts

 
powen001 2017-01-13 16:14:13 

In reply to sudden

yes..Tom was all that...but ahm...We discussing policies and political improvements for Barbados...

with all of Toms wuffless wickedness that we all deplored, He was a visionary for Bimshire...cant say not..

Financial System, Central Bank...Transportation re a 4 lane Highway...but he only got half of that.

Defense and security etc etc...all under Tom...as much as he was a bastard.

 
powen001 2017-01-13 16:15:28 

In reply to sudden

ask Fuzzy what Tommpy or Froon achieved in 9 years...between the TWO o them?

 
nick2020 2017-01-13 17:48:47 

In reply to powen001

The highest tourist arrival numbers since 2007 which would have been Owen's time.

 
sudden 2017-01-13 18:00:03 

In reply to powen001

so the central bank and the Bim financial system were brought into being by Tom? dont mek me laff. the 4 lane highway was constructed by him yes but was not his vision. and he could not do the 4 lanes each way cos he owed COW, gave him the job and had to pay the rest in cash which he hid via the said construction. the said cash that was to pay for the other 2 lanes each way. they dint tell yuh dat nuh.

even so Barrow spoke about a roadway running thru the middle of the island from St Lucy to the airport in the early 70s.

you are one big joker. man cah yuh short me crotch rass frum bout hay

 
TheTrail 2017-01-13 18:00:47 

In reply to sudden

In reply to powen001

for all of Tom's oratorical brilliance he was a vindictive and callow person. ever wonder why he was killed sorry how he died? he almost lost Bim to Cow in gambling debts


Shoot!

You had to go there huh...

I met some guys in T.O who are from Carrington village and Nurse land and they were discussing Tom Adams... and Vincent Straker ... wink wink

 
sudden 2017-01-13 18:03:40 

In reply to TheTrail

Vincent Straker or Simpson

 
tc1 2017-01-13 18:57:58 

[b]In reply to TheTrail/ Sudden




I heard recently from a friend who cousin work at CBC and Tom ran him out of Bim, the guy according to his cousin is a mental case, she cited that Tom destroyed his cousin.

 
sudden 2017-01-14 09:28:30 

i will be in Bim shortly. things heating up. Jinx Stuart going out undefeated. Sealy, Pitbull, Sinckler and De Don fightin fuh um. i backing De Don but insiders want Sealy, the Dark Horse is the Pitbull and the smart money on Sinckler.

great strategy

 
Courtesy 2017-01-14 09:32:36 

In reply to sudden

So, there is a possibility that Mia will be in Sinckler's cabinet?

big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-14 09:57:08 

In reply to Courtesy

hahaha. if that happens what would Powen do? big grin

 
Courtesy 2017-01-14 10:04:03 

In reply to sudden

Sit on the fence.

big grin

 
TheTrail 2017-01-14 15:32:06 

In reply to sudden


i will be in Bim shortly. things heating up.



It looks like the "pussy grabber " Trump pushing you out ahead of time. Is the Czech ready to take that leap? lol

 
powen001 2017-01-14 15:57:46 

In reply to sudden

so Barrow spoke about a roadway running thru the middle of the island from St Lucy to the airport in the early 70s.


ahm...And as is our Strength the incoming leader saw it through as a very good idea!

A LA crooked Lashley and the House Bank set up by previous admin...except...that is now a noose for a myriad of reasons.


again , I ask..what does Stuart have to show of any sustainable merit but a lot of insults to his own people and a complete disconnection from Barbadian Reality?

 
sudden 2017-01-14 16:39:17 

In reply to powen001

The BLP should be the last to talk about crooks. That Party is skilled at that. That Tom group was the most crooked of the lot. Remember Vic Johnson and all that money he stole from Transport Board to buy the Hope Plantation in St Lucy and Lammie Craig who stole so much he said that he could never be broke in two life times. That group ushered in drugs and money laundering in Bim and to this day we have not come to grips with the effect. Tell dem to tell why Tom died? How all dem Syrians got into Bim etc?

Then the Affur regime - which was a case of too much crooks spoiling the brood-they literally competed to see who could steal the most and in the crudest way.

 
powen001 2017-01-14 17:46:42 

In reply to sudden

i agree wholeheartedly with your big first paragraph...( I was a DEM then) big grin

As for the Arthur part....I glad you stick to innuendo cool

again..What has Froon accomplished but about 10 straight down grades and sending home people...oops...TAXES and POTHOLES achieved!

....where is the thumbs up emoticon.

 
TheTrail 2017-01-14 17:48:25 

In reply to sudden

Tell dem to tell why Tom died?



lol lol lol


Tom was a brilliant, leader no getting away from it. But you have to admire/pity/ envy the nocturnal side of the man. A certain secretary very often had to come to work wearing dark glasses, to hide the black eyes compliments of Tom.



The circumstance of his sudden departure and the many stories which we have heard over the years can fill a book. The last story was that he was poisoned by an Asian lady who entered Barbados for one day and when she left so did Tom.




Link Text

 
powen001 2017-01-14 19:11:27 

In reply to sudden

ive been invited.... rolleyes

Like I said , I like Grenville but he is stubborn as heck and prone to inflexibility....

Experience has taught me to love at arms length and smile politely when dealing with those types of personalities.

 
sudden 2017-01-14 19:26:36 

In reply to powen001

Report what happened and your impressions

 
nick2020 2017-01-15 08:13:54 

In reply to powen001

again..What has Froon accomplished but about 10 straight down grades and sending home people...oops...TAXES and POTHOLES achieved!


Record tourist arrivals since 2007 and constantly growing.

 
sudden 2017-01-15 11:45:03 

In reply to powen001

any update from the BS meeting last night?

 
sudden 2017-01-16 11:51:48 

In reply to powen001

Shortie, where is the bloody update?

 
pelon 2017-01-16 12:35:01 

In reply to sudden

so the central bank and the Bim financial system were brought into being by Tom? dont mek me laff.

lol lol lol
a side note: Also, early positive players like Mr. Tin Tun had a major role in the development of the central bank's operational facilities. One of the early secretaries of the Bank is still alive at 95, constantly regaling me with the stories of shorthand notes (many she kept) of conflicts between him (Tun) and the established IMF protocols. Tin understood the nuances of the post-colonial economies very well, and was well respected for his operational management... [just giving you a little side note] all this was in the early 70's

 
sudden 2017-01-16 12:57:05 

In reply to pelon

to put it into perspective, the CBB was established by an act of Parliament in May 1972. the BLP under Tom won the govt in 76. the first Governor of the CBB was Courtney Blackman, then Winston Cox, Kurleigh King, Calvin Springer, Marion Williams followed by the current governor Delisle Worrell.

the Governor is appointed by the CBB board of directors but somehow frowsy MEEEEEAH effectively has politicised the office.

i remember Barrow publicly disagreeing with Blackman who served under his tenure as PM. so MEEEAH and the Bees could really cah their so and so

 
powen001 2017-01-17 17:29:02 

In reply to sudden

you should know me better than to talk out the people bidness..you ought to be more concerned with George Pilgrim silly assertions about Power Grabbing while ignoring the clear and present threat to our Dollar Parity.


just saying.

 
sudden 2017-01-17 17:50:17 

In reply to powen001

wasnt the BS meeting a public meeting? how can a political party have a private meeting for the public?

 
powen001 2017-01-17 18:29:06 

In reply to sudden

was by invitation actually...at least thats the impression I had.

 
tc1 2017-01-17 21:41:31 

In reply to sudden

Courtney Blackman, then Winston Cox, Kurleigh King, Calvin Springer, Marion Williams followed by the current governor Delisle Worrell.



Any Cawmerians on that list ?

 
sudden 2017-01-18 08:30:11 

In reply to tc1

i know you are being facetious but the next one may be. ask Powen?

 
nick2020 2017-01-18 08:37:10 

In reply to sudden

ask Powen?


Why you sending poor tc to do a thing like that?

 
sudden 2017-01-18 09:05:58 

In reply to nick2020

hard to believe Powen, Devin and you went to the same school. it is like night, dusk and day

 
tc1 2017-01-18 09:40:48 

In reply to sudden

Nick and Devin were on quota.

 
sudden 2017-01-18 10:00:58 

so Powen who behind the newest launched political party, BIM- Barbados Integrity Movement?

is that the meeting you attended recently?

 
powen001 2017-01-18 15:36:46 

In reply to sudden

You know its Neil...so stop posteuring nuh?

And which part of them went to SMS?

I was in the first set of boys..1979...I know Devin confessed but SMS isnt known to produce slow comprehenders like Nick..sorry..

I want to see his school tie AND Birth Certificate before I would ever accept him as a product of SMS.

de shyte talk eeeirily close to Cawmere and the sewerage problems tho. big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-18 17:53:20 

so wait Nick is an impostor?

yuh still int answering muh questun...is that the meeting you were invited to?

 
nick2020 2017-01-18 18:17:45 

In reply to powen001

I want to see his school tie AND Birth Certificate before I would ever accept him as a product of SMS.


Only prefects had school ties.
Secondary School on a birth certificate?

sudden.... cry. I wish I went Cawmere.

 
nick2020 2017-01-18 18:20:28 

In reply to sudden

You know I must say I have never met anyone from Cawmere and thought he/she was a dunce.

Must really be a great institution.

 
sudden 2017-01-18 18:46:49 

In reply to nick2020

You are yet to meet me? big grin

Anyway rest assured that Powen did not go Cawmere

What do you make of this new party BIM?

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-18 19:50:19 

In reply to sudden

Who or what is BIM?

 
sudden 2017-01-18 20:05:36 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Link Text

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-18 20:25:20 

In reply to sudden

I know that but who are the names and faces?

 
sudden 2017-01-18 20:27:36 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Oh...well for that you have to ask Powen or Meeeah.

Dem say BS is there to cut BLP votes so the hive organized BIM to cut the DLP votes or versa vice big grin

 
nick2020 2017-01-18 21:32:43 

In reply to sudden

On Brasstacks today the moderator call about 16 parties.

Look the easiest way to fix this broken party system is to empower independents. All too often I hear people say "he can't do nuffin fuh me" as the reason why they do not vote a particular way. If we had a system where politicians regardless of who party they in or even who is in power he/she can fix roads and make improvements to the constituency then the system would improve. Represent them and effectively voice concerns.

Then we would be one step closer to having a better group of parliamentarians.

It is really awful to see a terribly useless Bee get vote out only to be replaced by a more useless Dem only to be voted out by the same useless Bee. Makes one feel angry.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-01-19 03:52:28 

In reply to sudden

Ok I see the lineup in Barbados today

 
sudden 2017-01-19 07:33:31 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

duh seh dat Affuh behind this BIM party and trying to undermine Meeeeah once again

duh seh dat Meeeah behind Solutions Barbados trying to split the Dems vote.


and den duh seh do fuh do int obeah

 
powen001 2017-01-19 14:34:59 

In reply to sudden

and neither of the two aint gine amount to a pile of beans.

big grin

matter of fact..anything that threatens the removal of your pack of jokers needs an enema forth with! big grin

 
Courtesy 2017-01-19 16:07:14 

In reply to powen001

...the removal of your pack of jokers needs an enema forth with!

You definitely had an enema to cause you to disaggregate forthwith.

lol lol lol

 
nick2020 2017-01-19 16:26:03 

In reply to Courtesy

That article and the infighting in it shows everything that is wrong with the political machinery. It needs to be dismantled. Why must someone attach themselves to an organization to be an electable candidate?

 
Courtesy 2017-01-19 16:36:21 

In reply to nick2020

The political machinery to help galvanize political support is expensive if you need to set it up from from scratch and the level of polarization among the electorate is great.

Independents can win on their own...but you've got to be damn good.

Established and successful politicians take part of this machinery with them when they leave an established party.

The resulting new political party gets its strength from the sum of these parts.

 
sudden 2017-01-19 17:47:34 

In reply to Courtesy

theoretically Nick is correct. there is no mention of political parties in the laws. a majority of elected MPs could form a union for the purposes of governing and said majority could decide who they want to be the leader. so there is really no need for political parties. but such a group is bound to have problems in governing becos there is no central governing philosophy, the MPs dont really know each other and cabinet ministers may not be able to function as a group


however a political party presents a bloc of potential MPs with a certain ideology and if supported by the voting majority at election, people are reasonably sure of what they will get in terms of laws and policy.

the other positives are what you mentioned

 
Courtesy 2017-01-19 18:00:09 

In reply to sudden

I got Nick's question all wrong. I interpreted it as: why the electorate do not franchise independent candidates in a scenario of established parties?

Why do they have to run thru political parties?

 
sudden 2017-01-19 18:21:20 

In reply to Courtesy

Nick's point which is nothing novel seems to be the way to go. political parties have passed their sell by date. too corrupt and too controlled. the days of the professional politician may be at an end

 
Courtesy 2017-01-19 18:27:45 

In reply to sudden

I believe strengthening the institutions of government to facilitate a high level of accountability with strong deterrent mechanisms if laws are breached and procedures bypassed is the way to go.

An Independent politician sitting in a Cabinet is not insulated from corruption.

 
sudden 2017-01-19 18:35:05 

In reply to Courtesy

A person sitting in cabinet is no longer independent given the collective responsibility of cabinet but I take your point. Integrity legislation is one of the biggest failing of the DLP in Bim and something I will never forgive them for, never

 
Courtesy 2017-01-19 18:38:50 

In reply to sudden

The absence of integrity legislation that is well policed is what is hampering our system of governance.

.............

On a side note...this is why I applaud PM Rowley for attempting to rein in corruption.

 
Courtesy 2017-01-19 18:45:39 

In reply to sudden

...Integrity legislation is one of the biggest failing of the DLP in Bim and something I will never forgive them for, never.


Mia Mia on the wall, who is it who just walked into the BLP?


lol lol lol

 
sudden 2017-01-19 19:30:28 

In reply to Courtesy

So what's appenning down your way. I hear some woman have pictures of a certain politician in the act? big grin

 
Courtesy 2017-01-19 19:37:48 

In reply to sudden

Yes. I have brought the matter to court for blackmail.

I shall refrain from speaking about it.

big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-19 20:14:49 

In reply to Courtesy

Cat got your tongue or in this case, balls? big grin

 
TheTrail 2017-01-19 20:19:01 

A third political party is good for the people of Barbados - it keeps the established two on their toes, so to speak.

 
powen001 2017-01-19 23:00:07 

In reply to Courtesy

the separation is EMPHASIS son...stick around...you still have literary stuff to glean big grin

 
powen001 2017-01-19 23:02:53 

In reply to sudden

how you gine bring integrity and the LOwe Down for keeping up with the JOneses...cause so many people to get smitten by Arch angel Michael of Lashley Valley?

huh?

Froon...The most puffed up empty vessel of fluff to ever be called PM in my beloved Bimshire...

quote me on that.

 
Courtesy 2017-01-20 08:16:49 

In reply to sudden

Cat got your tongue or in this case, balls?


...or it could be LOLO.

big grin

 
powen001 2017-01-20 15:17:49 

In reply to Courtesy

wunnuh two and wunnuh "hunger games" and LGBT stuff big grin

 
sudden 2017-01-20 15:31:33 

In reply to powen001

says that man who kisses up to Meeeeeah

 
nick2020 2017-01-20 17:21:47 

In reply to Courtesy

I will name names so that you can see the problem:

Abed runs in Christ Church (West I believe) and does a good job but it defeated by the incumbent Dr Duguid.
Abed wants to run again in 2013. Without getting into the nitty gritty the Christ Church branch executive deny him that opportunity and go with DePeiza. Duguid drops out of elective politics and is replaced by Maria Agard. Abed runs as an independent, gets more votes than I have ever seen an independent get, fractures the party and Maria Agard wins.

It is reasonable to believe Tan would have carried the constituency.

Another scenario is sometimes poor candidates can ride a wave of change and get in. I will skip the name calling here.

I am tired of seeing poor candidates end up being part of our parliament and I am tired of hearing people call into radio programmes complaining about lame duck representatives.

The political machinery to help galvanize political support is expensive if you need to set it up from from scratch and the level of polarization among the electorate is great.


I believe the hurdle of expense is one candidates can overcome. Barbados is not that big and the numbers are not astronomical like in the US. But to think up of solutions as I type this now maybe some part of government revenue could go into "the next election" and be allocated to help fund all candidates.

The objective is to build a stronger nation. We need to have the best and brightest leading the country. I think we need to find solutions to achieve this.

 
powen001 2017-01-20 19:35:23 

In reply to nick2020

The objective is to build a stronger nation. We need to have the best and brightest leading the country. I think we need to find solutions to achieve this.


But you support Kellman, Lowe..Kenny Best aka Kenny Worst..clueless Sukhoo, not delivered a single thing Sinckler, Mute Freundel

you cuss Owen Arthurs warnings since 2007 election and again in 2013 about privatization etc...and you think you have credibility with those platitudes?

* sorry hear...I did plan to leff you alone but I just came home from a rugged work out and pumped! cool

 
Courtesy 2017-01-20 19:50:23 

In reply to powen001

Powen are you intolerant to other peoples' support for politicians?

The last time I checked, Barbados was a democracy.

And one of the fundamental tenets of a democracy, is the freedom of choice, as well as a sacred right to dissent, within the confines of the law.

Only Nick can develop an appraisal system for the politicians he supports or does not support...this is not within your purview and certainly not within mine.

The corollary also holds true with my last point.

 
TheTrail 2017-01-20 21:46:54 

In reply to sudden

So what's happening down your way. I hear some woman have pictures of a certain politician in the act?



What year did that happen?

Was that the one in Barbados where the husband head off to work and then made a tacatoo and caught them in the act? Oops, mowing the lawn face down.

Did you know how that ended? Just asking. lol lol lol

 
sudden 2017-01-21 08:46:32 

In reply to TheTrail

hahahaha. not talking about that tho. talking about something that went down in St Lucia recently between a pol and a lover. she posted pictures of the act. there was also talk of blackmail big grin

 
nick2020 2017-01-21 11:03:00 

In reply to Courtesy

Courtesy all powen does is build straw men. Where have I ever supported any of the politicians he just name? I am pushing for the empowerment of Independents and complaining about the party machinery.

That sound like someone that does back Dems or Bees?

I wonder if he has anything clever to call Simmons for the things he has done? Or Mia? The hilarious part about powen's stance is he is a big Owen supporter yet when asked if what Owen said about Mia being unfit to be a leader is true he does jump off de fence and hide fast fast fast.

We have areas that vote one way all the time.
We have areas that vote out a lame duck, replace that lame duck with another lame duck only to vote back in the original lame duck. But those were the two choices on the ballet box so what can one do?

Powen get on his high chair and talk bad about a man smoking weed yet support someone who assault a person.

 
powen001 2017-01-21 12:37:20 

In reply to Courtesy

i beg your pardon?

lolololololol

I am intolerant? ha ha ha ha ...

If i had the means I would dump all the evidence before you - stuff Good politicians do versus the nonsense...but you would have me believe that thats not how we measure a politician but rather by the meter stick clearly labelled YardFowl.

get through boss. big grin

 
powen001 2017-01-21 12:39:20 

In reply to nick2020

Powen get on his high chair and talk bad about a man smoking weed yet support someone who assault a person


what you on about now son? cool

Thats code for Oh crap Nick2020 talkin puhp again?

 
sudden 2017-01-22 10:54:43 

In reply to powen001

all the long talk, you still havent addressed the substance of Nick's argument

 
powen001 2017-01-22 15:34:17 

In reply to sudden

I didnt read Nicks argument...

truth...

give me sometime to when I am in the mood to read his drivel...

then..calm down to respond like a nice fella.

 
sudden 2017-01-23 12:41:06 

In reply to powen001

you hear Freundel...a horse looks good when he is training by itself


BTW- our grapevine says that 3rd formers at Cawmere had to be evacuated becos of that stench

 
sudden 2017-01-24 07:48:56 

In reply to powen001

Addressing the Errol Barrow Memorial Church Service, Stuart also brushed aside calls by the BLP and its leader Mia Mottley for him to call elections now, while cautioning that “a horse can look very fast when he is training by himself . . . but . . . when he has the real competition, you realize that he is nothing at all”.

 
sudden 2017-01-24 07:52:01 

In reply to powen001

Adamson also sought to link the Opposition BLP to plans to legalize same-sex marriages here, with one of his placards reading, “Do not vote the BLP. They will legalise sex between the same sex”.

Displaying other signs which read “Mottley must never become any Prime Minister of any Government of Barbados” and “Mottley is worst BLP leader ever”, the PDC leader continued his offensive against the Opposition Leader.
Link Text

 
nick2020 2017-01-24 16:29:14 

In reply to sudden

Adamson also sought to link the Opposition BLP to plans to legalize same-sex marriages here, with one of his placards reading, “Do not vote the BLP. They will legalise sex between the same sex


I wish someone would criminalize these politicians. What kind of crap is this? Oh let me make up crap about people? What kind of Kindergarten nonsense is this sudden?

What next? Mia got cooties?

 
sudden 2017-01-24 16:37:50 

In reply to nick2020

dont get mix up between an activist and a politician. they can be one and the same but not in this case.


i understand that Adamson went STGS

 
Courtesy 2017-01-24 20:22:42 

In reply to powen001

You aint read Nick's post yet?

You're not fooling anyone. 'Twas written that you will not get back to comment...your tried and tested MO once again.

big grin

 
Courtesy 2017-01-27 07:26:14 

Bump.

 
sudden 2017-01-27 07:50:15 

In reply to Courtesy

you know that Powen has a tendency to run away and hide when the going gets tough, right?

 
Courtesy 2017-01-27 07:54:29 

In reply to sudden

you know that Powen has a tendency to run away and hide when the going gets tough, right?

That's why I am tightening the noose.

big grin

 
Tryangle 2017-01-27 09:00:53 

That Adamson fella seems like a bit of a nut, if that's his platform.