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Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses and labels group

 
BeachBum 2017-04-20 16:55:08 

I am no Jehovah's Witness, but this man Putin will be beaten with many stripes.

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black 2017-04-20 17:21:28 

In reply to BeachBum

Ayenmol is not going to be happy.

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 20:53:19 

In reply to black

We feel for our brothers. They have been down this road before though and ultimately it is our God Jehovah that directs his people. His will must be done! The work we do is not our own. We have faced persecution in many lands throughout the Earth and have triumph in time in our desire to teach the truth. All in due time. When Jehovah decides it is time to allow the people of Russia to hear his word no man will hinder it.

As usual it is the arm of Satan's World that most people are quick to associate with God are the very ones used by the Devil to frustrate God`s will, in this case the State Religion.

We pray that our brothers will keep their integrity and continue to glorify Jehovah!

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:00:32 

In reply to black

Find me one person who likes door to door salespeople. lol

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 21:06:02 

In reply to SnoopDog

Certainly not the Devil....or those doing his bidding. They tried to censor Jesus, they tried to censor the apostles.

We MUST obey God as ruler rather than men.

 
black 2017-04-20 21:09:20 

In reply to SnoopDog

Find me one person who likes door to door salespeople.


What are the JWs selling,BS? lol lol lol

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:13:38 

In reply to Ayenmol

You should be more pitied than scorned Bro.

What a waste of the human mind to voluntarily enslave yourself to such childish fantasies.

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:14:29 

In reply to black

They are selling the invisible product, the ultimate con. big grin

 
black 2017-04-20 21:17:59 

In reply to SnoopDog

They are selling the invisible product, the ultimate con.


I wonder if I can sell Ayenmol an invisible car?

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 21:19:20 

One thing for certain is that we do not cower to the Authorities of this World and water down God's word to gain friends.

We do not undermine them either or even participate in Politics to get our way.

We use the laws of the Land to state our case where granted the chance peacefully. Then we live it up to our God!

Whether it is the US, Canada, France, Spain, Australia, Germany the list goes on, from its infancy when the Brothers taking the lead were sentenced to 20 years in prison to now, it has always worked out.

 
Kay 2017-04-20 21:20:03 

In reply to Ayenmol

When Jehovah decides it is time to allow the people of Russia to hear his word no man will hinder it.

I don't understand why you think so, but every time I told a JW that they should come back in a week since this is not a good time for me, they would always say there is no better time than now

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:20:57 

In reply to black

He's gullible enough to believe in Bronze Age superstitions and that here is a giant sky wizard who watches over him day and night even after he's dead. lol

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:23:19 

In reply to Kay

It's just like the used car salesman who won't let you leave the dealership to go home and think about it. lol

If you don't buy the car today the offer of $1000 off the sticker price is gone. lol

 
nickoutr 2017-04-20 21:26:35 

To all and sundry ... you are all preapproved ...
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SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:28:47 

In reply to nickoutr

Has all the trappings of a scam Bro. lol

 
Kay 2017-04-20 21:28:57 

In reply to SnoopDog

Man I don't tolerate them but there is this one sweet chick who I am trying to break in. The first time she hand me the Awake book and invite me to church and left. The second time she stick around for about 5 minutes at the door preaching and refuse to come in and sit. Third time she not only come een but also accepted the glass of juice I offered although claiming that she not supposed to do that. She spent about half an hour......

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 21:29:43 

In reply to Kay

1 Corinthians 3:...

6 I planted, A·pollos watered, but God kept making [it] grow; 7 so that neither is he that plants anything nor is he that waters, but God who makes [it] grow.


All we do is plant and water...

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:31:44 

In reply to Kay

Wow, you were pretty close to giving her a bit of heaven right here on earth. lol

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:33:23 

In reply to Ayenmol

All you do is pester and annoy people who don't give a flying fcuk about your batshyte beliefs.

 
Kay 2017-04-20 21:34:00 

In reply to SnoopDog

I don't rush god's children.... smile

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 21:38:01 

In reply to Kay

Pretty sure you telling tales.

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:40:21 

In reply to Kay

No doubt she will cum to you one day and will find the "truth". lol

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 21:40:45 

In reply to SnoopDog

Yet here you are again on a thread specifically about us...so why can't YOU stay away? No one ask you to be here!

You have your threads about things I don't care about, do you see me coming onto those threads mocking you?

 
nickoutr 2017-04-20 21:42:41 

When I was in high school I read "The Suffrage of Elvira" by famous Trinidadian author V S Naipaul.
You guys on this MB remind me of the characters in this hilarious book.

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:44:47 

In reply to Ayenmol

Newsflash asshole, I'm not knocking on someone's door and invading their privacy along with their right to be free from religious zealots.

And it would be pretty hard to ridicule your beliefs if they weren't so fcuking ridiculous in th first place. lol

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:45:26 

In reply to nickoutr

What's your character in the book? lol

 
nickoutr 2017-04-20 21:54:15 

In reply to SnoopDog
My character would probably be at that time but NOT now a patron of Ramlagan's rumshop
Today I am a believer. I don't not like the pagan intrusion into the early church ... I tend to agree with JW and 7th Day Adventists
PS and you are right ... a lot of Christendom is as phony as it can get

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 21:56:18 

In reply to nickoutr

My sympathies to you. lol

All religions are phoney in my book. Every single one.

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 22:01:43 

In reply to SnoopDog


Newsflash asshole, I'm not knocking on someone's door and invading their privacy along with their right to be free from religious zealots
.

Move to Russia then!

Wherever we knock on doors it is because we have the right to do so!

Never have I seen so much hate for something someone does not care about...maybe you should look up the word zealot, you are displaying more atributes of a zealot than I...stalking and abusing anyone who dares declare belief in God!

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 22:07:42 

In reply to Ayenmol

You knock on my door and you're a trespasser asshole. You have zero right.

You live in a secular democracy which means you are free to hold your religious beliefs but you are not free to impose it on others.

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 22:10:40 

In reply to SnoopDog

Yet here you are trying to impose your beliefs on me....strange!

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 22:15:12 

In reply to Ayenmol

Yes. You will worship the one true God - the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Don't be a wet noodle. Get down on your hands and knees and beg for extra Ragu sauce or be damned to eternity eating nothing but ramen soup. lol

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 22:17:53 

In reply to SnoopDog

Blah blah blah...you are an oxymoron. Never have I seen someone reflect so perfectly the very attitude they claim to be against!

Ignor!

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 22:20:22 

In reply to Ayenmol

lol lol lol

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 22:35:13 

In reply to SnoopDog

It is obvious you got serious issues. Honestly. From now on I will just have to ignore you. You obviously have some deep seated issues.

If you do not believe in God fine dude. No one is forcing you to. I do! Am sure he exist! If that burns you, too bad!

Good riddance! I will not be dragged through mire!

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 22:39:28 

In reply to Ayenmol

I'm hurt. cry

 
XFactor 2017-04-20 22:59:04 

In reply to Ayenmol

It is obvious you got serious issues.


Insults gets substituted when an argument cannot be made.

Happens when the brain has limited understanding or perhaps moral rebellion.

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 23:03:59 

In reply to XFactor

You're the one who reads a primitive book of ancient fairy tales and then says others have limited understanding? lol

 
Ayenmol 2017-04-20 23:09:45 

In reply to SnoopDog

Now look you attacking a fellow believer...obviously he missed your attacks that prompted that reaction. Calling a spade a spade is now an insult!

Insults gets substituted when an argument cannot be made.


Here it is the man showing he so blinded by his vitriol that he cyan see the difference between friend or foe....but am the one deluded.

Interesting.

 
XFactor 2017-04-20 23:10:18 

In reply to SnoopDog

Dude, there you go yet again... You clearly don't know what I'm talking about.

It is seriously disturbing when adults act like children, for all to see.

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 23:17:21 

In reply to XFactor

Are you of those adults who believe in a magical sky Daddy who controls your life, even after you're dead? lol

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 23:18:59 

In reply to Ayenmol

Didn't I tell you to pee and ketch yuh bed? lol

 
XFactor 2017-04-20 23:32:01 

In reply to SnoopDog

Nothing "controls" my life.

God created humanity with the ability to choose.

I'm not getting lured into this. Your mental constipation turns into insults.

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-20 23:42:09 

In reply to XFactor

So you can exercise your god given choice by choosing not to believe in his existence and get punished for eternity for exercising that choice.

Some kinda free will that is. lol

 
bravos 2017-04-21 00:11:10 

In reply to SnoopDog

Good work Putin..now onto the others!! smile

 
johndom90 2017-04-21 02:50:24 

In reply to BeachBum

Useless NGOS. Lots of missionary work to be done in the US.

 
Tryangle 2017-04-21 09:45:24 

Why specifically the Witness movement? Why not include say, Mormons? Curious as to why Russia's targeting this particular movement.

 
steveo 2017-04-21 09:50:11 

In reply to BeachBum

I dont why Jehovah's Witness the absolute right to someone's front door. If it was Allah's or Krishna's witnesses, they would probably be abused and some law created to prevent them from brainwashing people.

 
Kay 2017-04-21 10:26:00 

In reply to Tryangle

Why specifically the Witness movement? Why not include say, Mormons? Curious as to why Russia's targeting this particular movement.

You not following the thread man. They are disgustingly invasive and don't take no for an answer. Other than that I have no qualms over what they do or practice...

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-21 10:45:02 

In reply to Kay

You not following the thread man. They are disgustingly invasive and don't take no for an answer. Other than that I have no qualms over what they do or practice...


I'm with you there Bro.

I could care less who or what people worship in the privacy of their own homes. But the moment they go out in public and try to impose their batshyte beliefs on others - that's where I draw the line.

 
Tryangle 2017-04-21 10:48:12 

In reply to Kay

I get that they are invasive and more than a bit of a nuisance especially early on a weekend morning, but I didn't see that listed in the article as a reason that Russia is labelling them as an extremist group, or "pose[s] a threat to the rights of the citizens, public order and public security".

I know Russia doesn't exactly subscribe to the 'freedom of religion' policy that 'Western' countries claim to do, but it seems a bit reactionary and out of the blue.

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 11:09:24 

In reply to SnoopDog
Snoop, you call it imposing, however, JWs are looking for those who are willing t listen. They're obeying that part of the Bible that says,


Mark 16:15

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


Did you miss that part, or is it that you don't believe in the Bible? If you do, you need preaching to. big grin

 
conman 2017-04-21 11:12:21 

In reply to BeachBum

Why should you obey the bible?

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 11:13:23 

In reply to Tryangle

I know Russia doesn't exactly subscribe to the 'freedom of religion' policy that 'Western' countries claim to do, but it seems a bit reactionary and out of the blue.


That's exactly where I expected this discussion would lead to. Not in the knock down, drag out brawl Snoop started. big grin

I'm wondering if Trump will have anything to say about this. He tweets about everything else.

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 11:14:05 

In reply to conman
If you don't believe in it, you shouldn't.

 
conman 2017-04-21 11:20:04 

In reply to BeachBum

sure, but why should you believe it?

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 11:21:56 

In reply to conman
If you believe in God. And you believe that those who wrote it were inspired by God. Then it's a good guide to how mankind should live.

 
analyst-kid 2017-04-21 11:23:38 

Amazing how people who are only interested in your spiritual welfare and salvation are treated by the Russian Govt and ppl here on this MB.

Then again Satan knows his time is soon up.

 
conman 2017-04-21 11:46:08 

In reply to BeachBum

But that still begs the question, why should you?

 
conman 2017-04-21 11:46:50 

In reply to analyst-kid

Then again Satan knows his time is soon up.


What does that mean?

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 12:14:06 

In reply to conman
You should if you believe in God and believe that's the way he wants you to live.

 
analyst-kid 2017-04-21 12:24:40 

In reply to conman

Satan is THE master deceiver and manipulator of people. Think about it.

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-21 12:33:16 

In reply to analyst-kid

Think about it.


A religious person asking someone to think about something. lol

Oh the irony Batman! lol

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-21 12:40:02 

In reply to BeachBum

You should if you believe in God and believe that's the way he wants you to live.


But one bible thumper has already stated in this thread that Mr God doesn't dictate your life. He has given humankind free will and choice.

So, you can exercise your free will and choose to live any which way you want and/or desire. The upshot however, is that this free will and choice comes with an almighty shytty condition - you must chose to believe in Mr. God or face eternal damnation and punishment.

Sounds an awful lot like living in North Korea. lol

 
conman 2017-04-21 12:44:17 

In reply to analyst-kid

Satan is THE master deceiver and manipulator of people.


How?

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 13:57:20 

In reply to SnoopDog

So, you can exercise your free will and choose to live any which way you want and/or desire. The upshot however, is that this free will and choice comes with an almighty shytty condition - you must chose to believe in Mr. God or face eternal damnation and punishment


God, I believe, created the human being with the ability to do whatever he pleases. He provided a blueprint, but there's no demand to follow it. However, there is a caveat. Which is why I started this whole thing about Putin.

Luke 12:47

And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

 
conman 2017-04-21 14:01:18 

In reply to BeachBum

why would he/she/it do that?
Gives you free will then tells you to follow x, but if you dont follow ill make sure you suffer

 
SnoopDog 2017-04-21 14:08:08 

In reply to conman

Gives you free will


You didn't even had a choice to be given a choice. lol

Oh the irony. lol

 
Tryangle 2017-04-21 14:34:07 

In reply to BeachBum

I'm wondering if Trump will have anything to say about this. He tweets about everything else.


The impression I get from Trump is that if it's not the evangelicals, it's not on the radar.

JWs seem to be a *very* distant cousin, if any, to most Christian denominations, for whatever reason (I'd guess the Trinity concept, although maybe it's the WatchTower) so maybe there won't be much condemnation of Russia's policy from other faith groups?

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 16:02:54 

In reply to conman

why would he/she/it do that?
Gives you free will then tells you to follow x, but if you dont follow ill make sure you suffer


Invite a JW by your house and he/she'll answer all your questions. big grin Explain everything.

Here are the rules. You can choose to follow or not follow them. If you don't, here's what's likely to happen.

 
conman 2017-04-21 16:05:33 

In reply to BeachBum

BUT WHY

Why create a species just so they can worship you?
Is god that insecure? Cause the good book says he throws tantrums when ppl dont do things he wants

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 16:09:06 

In reply to conman
Just be glad that he gave you a chance at life. Tantrum or not.

The success of the species came with rules. In fact, we were not supposed to die at all. But we can't follow rules.

Doesn't your household come with rules?

 
conman 2017-04-21 16:11:20 

In reply to BeachBum

Lets stop there for a second, my mother and father gave me life, full stop.

The success of the species came with rules. In fact, we were not supposed to die at all. But we can't follow rules.


But what success and for who?

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 16:38:37 

In reply to conman

Lets stop there for a second, my mother and father gave me life, full stop.

Yeah, and you never got your @$$ cut?



But what success and for who?

I said success of the species. The human species. Don't you see what we've done to ourselves? How many friends did you have that didn't make it to the age of 30, 40, 50, 60? For whatever reason. You violate the rules, you pay the penalty.

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death ....

 
conman 2017-04-21 16:44:44 

In reply to BeachBum

Yeah, and you never got your @$$ cut?

No

I said success of the species. The human species. Don't you see what we've done to ourselves? How many friends did you have that didn't make it to the age of 30, 40, 50, 60? For whatever reason. You violate the rules, you pay the penalty.


What evidence do you have that is true? That if you follow these rules (which you have no idea the validity of them) you will have eternal life?

 
BeachBum 2017-04-21 16:54:23 

In reply to conman

What evidence do you have that is true? That if you follow these rules (which you have no idea the validity of them) you will have eternal life?


Don't need any. Too late to worry about proof now anyway. We're all gonna dead now. big grin
How many friends or acquaintances did you have that died in their 20s, 30s, 40s, etc.?

 
conman 2017-04-21 16:58:45 

In reply to BeachBum

Wait, you dont see what a cruel question ur asking and its implication?

"Your friends died b/c the world isnt following what my god says"

They why did he bring them here in the first place?

 
bravos 2017-04-21 23:50:54 

'Caribbean Expressions'

'Jehovah Wickedness' T&T..

Whe Headley dey!?

 
bravos 2017-04-23 12:58:34 

Snoop,black..

Plain and simple..

Reminds me of some earth tyrants ,but only a little, they're child's play in comparison.. smile

 
black 2017-04-23 13:43:28 

In reply to bravos

'Jehovah Wickedness' T&T..


Dunno who came up with it but it's used in Guyana too.

 
black 2017-04-23 14:22:45 

Why did Russia ban them? Is it because they are disturbing Russians after vodka induced hangovers? lol lol lol