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Ramdin get a temporary stay of execution... 
my starting X1
2. Denesh Ramdin
3. Narsingh Deonarine
4. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
5. Darren Bravo
6. Dwayne Bravo
7. Kieron Pollard
8. Darren Sammy
9. Nikita Miller
10. Sulieman Benn
11. Kemar Roach
In reply to FanAttick Suh Pollard betta dan Sarwan? 
In reply to bata
Sars not fully fit yet..plus why risk him when there are bigger fish to fry?
So nuh new faces....Dem is one set ah ras.....Ramdin still within.....He certainly have de right to do wha' he feels ta do.....
In reply to Raggs
I would have kept Cowlasher Smith and sent Bernie home...
Bernie is a better test player than Cowlasher...but Cowlasher is more suited to the shorter format...
Why did they hurry Dwayne Bravo back into the team? I think the selectors need to keep experimenmting with other guys so the other guys will have the experience to step in when the senior guys get injured. After all, Zim while not being the best team in the world, has been providing a good test for the junior players.
I would drop Pollard for Bernard.
A far more thinking batsman....and a better bowler.
In reply to FanAttick
Cowlasher get drap fe being ah prat.......mek him stay outdeh....But Ramdin still deh 'bout and Fletcher gone......
No Fletchial?
So we know who won't be going to any of the matches.
One wonders what each match attendance is going to be. I'd say 1k max.
what a mediocre team we have... sigh 
In reply to FanAttickRamdin is in the last chance saloon.I would had taken Khan and give Benn a break, because i dont think he will make batsmen loose sleep.After some time they do get used to what you are bowling.
Is Pollard a better batsman,fielder or bowler than Smith?
If the answer is NO to two out of three...no justification in retaining Pollard.
In reply to FanAttick Sarwam mek 100 plus the odda day--no.
In reply to bata
yes..but the intensity of ODI is much higher...he can tek his own sweet time in the longer version...
The retention of Pollard also indicates the lack of a solid middle order batsman for ODIs in the Caribbean.
With Roach,Sammy,Bravo,Miller,Benn and Gayle to bowl there is no need for Pollard/Smith/Rampaul and their senseless batting.
But with no wkpr to challenge and no middle order batsman of ODI quality we have to retain them.
At least our options look better in the Tests with Nash and Sarwan to return.
1. Gayle
2. Barath
3. Chanderpaul
4. Pollard
5. Deonarine
6. Dw. Bravo
7. Ramdin
8. Sammy
9. Miller
10. Benn
11. Roach
Hmmm I thought dey was going to bring back Xman to replace Ramdin!!
I remember Gayle saying he's nuturing {xman}
In reply to analyst-kid
Pollard's retention may have had a little something to do with the fact that he was the best performer during the Australian ODIs
In reply to analyst-kid
Rampaul is a batsman?
In reply to WICFan
1. Gayle
2. Barath
3. Chanderpaul
4. Bernard/Pollard
5. Deonarine
6. Dw. Bravo
7. Ramdin
8. Sammy
9. Miller
10. Benn
11. Roach
I would play bernard over Pollard. Pollard need to rethink is game
In reply to roseboy64 He a ROTI hEATER not hitter hEATER!!!
Gayle
Barath
Deonarine
Chanderpaul
Dwayne Bravo
Pollard
Ramdin
Sammy
Benn
Miller
Roach
In reply to ThisIsMyName
who keeping?
In reply to camos
Forgot the keeper...I guess ramdin is so bad that my mind subconsciously tried to forget him 
a much better squad, but i would like to see pollard and ramdunce out of here.
In reply to analyst-kid
Pollard just seem to lack confidence – the expectations got to be weighing him down.
WTF NO SARWAN
shit hound BUTTS ned to go
In reply to FanAttick
Where is the evidence Fan
Wesley
SARWAN just made a hundred..you have to be pretty fit to be able to bat in the tropical sun and score a hundred...
Overall I like this squad, I called for Smith to be sent home and Fletcher to be dropped and both happened.
Good job Butt.
Wesley
In reply to hewesleyb
I am a little sorry for Smith – he just does not go about his cricket like he have a brain – I was really hoping he would have grabbed this opportunity and become a fixture in the ODIs/twenty/20………now he may never get another chance.
In reply to sar_fan
Something strange going on.
Can you find out?
Mad dem, Ramdin!
In reply to Surya
Great arugue on the team , anyone has an idea what the wicket would be like? or is it the with the dry weather and we don't want to wet and roll the wicket...
and that folks isthe end of D. Shyte
warm up the yam and eddoes for he to plant
From this squad I leave out
Barath, Bernard and Rampaul.
I open with Ramdin or Chanderpaul with gayle. preferable Ramdin. useing Chanders Deo and young bravo to bat through the middle and big Bravo and Pollard as finishers if needed.If chanders open then pollard and Ramdin to finish and big Bravo in the middle.
Whatever, the playes must have clear roles. it is the only way one can judge success..am I doing what I am asked to do? and it cant be as vague as a batsman or bowler.
In reply to soloview
what Ramdin ever finish....u ting um is draw cricket we playing?
In reply to soloview
As the captain stated quite clearly, players MUST take responsibility for their performance. You can call it finisher or whatever, the bottomline is that every player has to contribute for team success; nothing new here really.
On a separate note, I continue to wonder why the WICB is wasting funds on a coach for the senior team. Clearly it is not working and such funds ought to be re-directed to the youth programmes. If the youth cricketers are properly trained and developed, then when they are senior players they should be self-propelling. It should not be necessary to have a coach for test players.
Chris Gayle
Adrian Barath
Darren Bravo
Narsingh Deonarine
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Dwayne Bravo
Kieron Pollard
Denesh Ramdin
Ravi Rampaul
Darren Sammy
Kemar Roach
If Dwayne Smith is being disciplined, I dont have a problem, but Why he and not Pollard and Ramdin?
Smith and Pollard were the leading performers in Oz ODI, they both performed poorly since then vs Zim....so y one gets dropped and the other retained?
selectors must not act out of spite, but with logic and reasoning!
In reply to jmark
leave out sammy, roach and gayle an u will be alright!
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy Agreed!
Smith is being hard-done by the selectors...I guess he lost the confidence of his cappo.
In reply to ThisIsMyName why play pullard if u have Bravo, Roach,Gayle, Sammy and Benn plus DEO to bowl, give LIL BRAVO a bat
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
How old is Smith and how many ODI has he played? Then do same for Pollard.
Wesley
In reply to Khary9
jus basing it on my least favorite selector of all times selection
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Bro, four runs from 3 balls and you swiped and get bowled was a hard pill to swallow.
In reply to hewesleyb
What age has to do with it? Polly is about 22 and matrix 26.
They both had similar performances in the last 2 series, they are both young, Gayle called out both.
So u mean give polly time to do the same thing as smith as many times as smith?
illogical and nonsensical!
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Smith gaan mek money a IPL wah bother u?
In reply to birdseye
I am not. Smith has played cricket all over the world, has been coached by some of the best in the world and has had over 70 games to learn his craft.
How much is enough! If Smith has not had enough chances why stop there lets bring Ganga back into the test team after all he only had 48 games.
Smith has been playing the samy brain dead dunce cricket for years its time to move on.
Good call Butt, Gibson and Gayle.
Wesley
In reply to openning
agreed, but polly did any different last match?...so only because we win he is safe? if we had lost would he be matrix-ed?
thats what i mean ruling by spite instead of reasoning
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
I defy you to name the bowler who bowled Smith like a dunce without looking it up. Hint it was not Stryn, Murlie, Price, Tait, Johnson, Bond, Vettori ........
Wesley
In reply to doosra
das not the point...we are looking for a consistency of selection policy
In reply to hewesleyb
emotive bs! who out Polly saturday?
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
that was Smithy's 77th ODI
if that helps
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Change the subject if you like I am not defending Pollard I am just justifying Smith deserved dropping. It was well earned.
Wesley
In reply to hewesleyb
and where did i deny that? my opening was clear that have no problem with him being disciplined, my problem is why not Pollard too....or is there a double standard?
In reply to doosra
wtf that has to do with consistent selection policy?
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
this isnt his first screw up, is it?
he swipes more often than not...
it has all to do with it, but you have on your blinkers for this one
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
No double standard Pollard was publicly called out by his cappo, remember Lara did same to Bravo sometime back and it worked.
We dont know if Pollard will play on Wednesday my guess is he will carry water and that would be ok with me.
Wesley
In reply to doosra
pollard never swiped, nor ramdin, nor any other player
In reply to hewesleyb
why is he still in the squad?
Darren And Dwayne must play.
1.gayle
2.bharat
3.Darren
4.shiv
5.Deo
6.dwayne
7.Ramdin
8.Sammy
9.Miller
10.Benn/rampaul
11.roach
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Because its his 1st and 2nd 3rd .... offence and Smith's N th. 100+
Wesley
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Gayle did too, they all have
u carrying on like he average 20 or something
for rass sake he is barely pushing 16, and he is the king of all swipers
good riddance
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy because Smith was just holding a place for Bravo , now that he is back ...smith is out..he just speeed up the process with the last two innings.
the difference between smith and pollard( just assuming here) is that more is expected of Smith with his ecperience in term of number of games and playing in England etc.....I think he will be judged a little more harsh than pollard.
In reply to soloview
Maybe you are correct, and u are confirming my view that they are reacting spitefully and not with reasoning and judgement.
In reply to doosra
u have turned into the mudland jahjah cuss cuss...carry on.
I had u pegged as a logical fella not such an emotional skunt.
But nah worries today it is matrix, yesterday it was pow pow, tomorrow it might be Deo
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
mih nuh cuss, is use carrying on with the wtf and all that
check me post dem
but really on a serious note, Smithy has been on the line for a while, and u really dont expect him to hang there for too long without supporting stats
listen to this
Smith, Pollard, Bravo, Sammy, Bernard - all in the same team?
no way
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Smith play the wrong swipe at the wrong time....it will live in infamy.
Windians could understand and absorb a T20 loss to Zimbabwe, but to lose an ODI when it was so winnable?
Someone had to pay......
In reply to doosra
to me to be effective both Pollard and Smith should have suffered the same punishment, indeed even Ramdin.
but u makin a case for Polly to stay, they dropped Ramdin for 1 match and he is back.....has he corrected whatever it was that Gayle cussed them about.
To show seriousness and even-handedness if 1 is dropped all should be. call up baugh, Walton, Browne Dowrich whoever. Why Fletch was dropped after being chosen as keeper to replace ram?
There are enough allrounders who can replace pollard.
I will bet u Bernard makes way for Pollard....why?
In reply to Larr Pullo
only one has to pay so that the message is sent?
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
this is the heart of the matter, that Smith was playing his 77th match and has committed that sort of thing before, maybe in different situations but it certainly isnt his first offence
In reply to doosra
is it polly 1st, 2nd, 3rd...what no.?
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
different context, slightly and pollard is all of 55 matches below Smith
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
I know you know better than that. By your Logic all but Gayle, Barath, Shiv and Roach should be dropped.
Wesley
In reply to Fortis
Did you say wasting WICB wasting funds on a senior coach? Are u out of your mind? In that case I guess we don't need coaches for bowlers, batsmen, fielding etc. Since you are at it, then we don't need a captain either. Let the so called developed young players according to your plan, set up their practice sessions and all the other things a coach does and See how many of them will show up on time and with proper work ethics. Do you think these unsupervised 20,22 year olds can be cricketers and administrators at the same time?
That's part of the problem with West Indies cricket. We expect these young guys to be mature and responsible adults overnight. When they fail we ready to drop them for other young ones and therefore repeating the same cycle of failure. Give them time to mature. A team should have a blend of youths and veterans. By the way. You only become a veteran by playing regularly
In reply to doosra
two men teef, they go to court, because 1 is older or been around longer he gets sentenced and the other is set free
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
No one gets a longer sentence than the other happens everyday.
Wesley
In reply to hewesleyb
what is wrong with my reasoning?
BTW why did fletcher get dropped after being selected as keeper to replace Ramdin?
Did he perform worse than Ramdin?
And by wunnuh arguments Ramdin been doing this longer than fletcher so he should be retained and Randin dropped
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
I think Cowlasher was harshly treated...I saw some positive signs in Oz...he is like a recovering alcoholic - its easy to fall off de wagon. I hope he gets a recall for the T20 Champs...I wouldnt pull de plug on him just yet.
His main problem is his prior bad acts...his reputation comes into play everytime he commits a new offense....so the punishment is not so much for the offense by itself but for all prior offenses combined...
Ricardo Powell used to be treated in the same way. Everytime WI lost with him in the side he was the one who ended up paying de price...
His last test for WI was the one in which Lara preened himself on the way to mekking de quad. Pow Pow made a brisk 20 odd but got out skying a miscued hook to 3rd man...
WI only played a single inning in that test so Pow Pow didnt get a chance to remediate the offense...
Viv who was then chairman of selectors said publicly dat Pow Pow would never play another test match for West Indies...
I didnt agree with Viv then and I dont agree with Captainceee, Gibbo and de selectors here as far as Cowlasher Smith is concerned...
In reply to hewesleyb
no u get sentenced for the crime...not for priors
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
I would not call their omission from the team as dropped. I would say that the players are rested. The selectors should be a bit more transparent and let the guys know that players will be rotated for freshness as well as for experience. Pollard needs to be rested because he had quite a long season and travel.
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
I would not call their omission from the team as dropped. I would say that the players are rested. The selectors should be a bit more transparent and let the guys know that players will be rotated for freshness as well as for experience. Pollard needs to be rested because he had quite a long season and travel.
In reply to FullToss
Who was the coach of the Windies team captained by Clive Lloyd? Who was the coach of the Windies team captained by Viv Richards?? If you truly understood what I wrote then you should have come away with a different inference. To reiterate, the limited funds that are available should be spent on the youth programs. The youth cricketers need to be trained and developed into REAL test players. And development must be done in the most comprehensive sense - on and off the field. If a test player needs a coach to tell him how to bat, bowl or field then he cannot call himself a test player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And do not confuse a trainer with a coach while you are at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In reply to dayne
What junior Players??
They have been experimenting fuh the last 15 years - where did it get them.... the last time I checked they were at the bottom of the heap.
Zimm bust them ass in two games - them now playing catch up to Zimm. So far Zimm 2 WI 1
Tek that!
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com whats saving pollard is the big contract, maybe the wicb is profiting indirectly who knows, but he certainly deserves to be dropped along with ramdin. they should have picked imran khan in those conditions at queens park oval and at providence. dwayne smith had shown improvement but fell back into his old ways and lost the first odi with a dumb shot but pollard and ramdin were bad too.
In reply to Fortis
Listen, we need to attack the Windies problems from all fronts. We cannot solve one at the expense of the other. What's amazing about us Windians is that we find money to do the things we want to do and not what is important to us.
Those days we had strong leaders in Lloyd and Viv. Now, everyman on the team is watching the other because he is afraid that he will lose his place on the team to that person. There is no friendship or bond. So a Coach and the support staff is needed to reassure and build confidence.
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Why is Ramdin still in the squad and not replaced? This is so unwise and foolish?
In reply to solidrock
Why? The cupboard bare my friend. Isn't it easier to develop what you have than to keep experimenting hoping a Dujon or D. Murray clone will suddenly fall out of the sky?
Would Fuzzy be here defending Matrix as passionately as he is if Matrix WASN'T bajan? 
In reply to imusic
fyi fuzzy is defending a principle not a person.
btw would u be wine-free if it were pollard?
ps see ziks thread on dropping strategy!
Chris Gayle(c)
Adrian Barath
Denesh Ramdin(wk)
Narsingh Deonarine
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Dwayne Bravo
Kieron Pollard
Darren Sammy
Nikita Miller
Sulieman Benn
Kemar Roach
If Pollard forks up again, I'll slot Lil Bravo in up the order. I'd like to see Ramdin get a knock up the order.
In reply to FullToss
I would not call their omission from the team as dropped. I would say that the players are rested.
Are you crazy or something...stop sniffing the donkey cart glue newbie...
In reply to TheTrail
What's crazy about resting players ole fart? The Windies have been chopping and changing the team for years and it nah work. Everytime we invest time in a player we drop him and try another newbie and then drop him again when he fails.
Stop reinventing the wheel. Our players like Pollard, Smith and Wavell Hinds have to go abroad and then come back ah yard to be appreciated by people like you.
I say have a rotation system where some players are rested and then try others so they can gain experience without disrupting the harmony and chemistry of the team.
That's how you build a team
Maybe you do, but I don't see the Windies having an abundance of good players knocking down the door for selection.
In reply to hewesleyb
i think the logic for sending tarzan packin and keeping pullhard is because we tired see tarzan do the same crap. is like when two criminal commit a crime together and get caught. one young and is only he 2nd crime. meanwhile the other factor ah regular in the prison yard. you think the judge goin give them the same sentence? no. the judge go more lenient on the youngster. but he go loss the other one under the jail...
btw, not supporting pullhard per se, but people fed up with smith and that same nonsense he be doing over and over.
In reply to FullToss
Players must earn their place on the team and not rotated in and out like a turnstile under the guise of "resting". These are supposed to be professional players who are being paid reasonably well; but I say once again, we cannot expect sound and consistent performance when there is no sustained program of development at the youth level. What are the plans for keeping the U-19's together as the future Windies players at the senior level, for example??
What we are witnessing are the products of a system that forces mediocrity, with THE NOTABLE exception being Chanderpaul, who performs consistently at a high level. The lamentations of posters herein are not new, and we continue to haggle over players who talk a good show but cannot back it up with consistent performance. The standards for making the Windies team are so low that competing against even Zimbabwe has become a challenge. This should be the loudest message to the WICB that the time for seriously addressing the systemic problems is overdue.
In reply to Fortis
I agree with you wholeheartedly that each player must earn their place on the team. But If you don't rest or rotate players how would you find or develop others in case of injury to the so called front players.
I also agree that it's time that the WICB stop passing the buck and take responsibility for the development of the game in the Caribbean.
The WICB is not helping the players by:
(a) Scheduling of tours- How can you let your team fly half way around the world from Australia and then expect them to be ready to play a game tow days later.
(b) Preparation- And the other guys here preparing for a 20/20 and ODI's by competing in 4 day tournament
(c) No visible support staff for a new coach. Zimbabwe came all the way here with a team of former players to give as much help to the youths as possible and we have all the resources here and can't find or pay for help our players badly need.
Also, remember most players don't peak until they are in their late 20's. So we expect our young cricketers to be world beaters when they are not playing alongside world beaters. They may be talented but they need a lot of help to take it to the next level.
We are stuck with those that we have right now. We either have to work with what we have now or keep rebuilding and watch the rest of the world goes by.
In reply to FanAttick
Swapping black dawg fi monkey. West Indies cricket is now third league
In reply to FullToss
I say have a rotation system where some players are rested and then try others so they can gain experience without disrupting the harmony and chemistry of the team.
Go abroad and come back and do wuh...the same old shyte. Look,yuh could tek the man out the country but yuh can't tek the country out de man,yuh hear?Nuh matter where they go they are the same shytehounds I know.
What Chemistry and harmony yuh talking about..there is none in this team.I read somewhere they have been trying since 1994 and I cannot see any progress.
BTW,who yuh calling "old fart" meh just turn 23 last month.
My XI would be....
1) Chris Gayle
2) Adrian Barath
3) Shiv Chanderpaul
4) Narsing Deonarine
5) Dwayne Bravo
6) Kieron Pollard
7) Denesh Ramdin
Darren Sammy
9) Nikita MIller
10) Suleimann Benn
11) Kemar Roach
I would have Bernard, Rampaul and Lil Bravo missing out on the first ODI....
In reply to mikesiva
No matter what combination of 11 players is selected from the available 14, more than half are pretenders. We can hope for the best but hope is not a strategy. While our international opponents are busy recognizing and addressing their problems with well thought out solutions, we continue to wallow in mediocrity. The regional tournament was a regional joke, yet in many respects it forms the basis for selection of the senior team and the usual accompanying insular commentaries from disgruntled territories. Until the WICB is equipped with competent people, the poor state of Windies cricket is likely to continue.
Some are suggesting that the individual countries go it alone, but such an insulting stance would make Windies cricket injuries permanent. The fact is the sum of the parts is not greater than the whole. I was happy to read in the Jamaica Observer newspaper today that the JCA has no intention of flying solo.
In reply to The Trail
My apologies youngfart. Just kidding.
Happy belated birthday.
I promise I'll keep it cordial from now on. Got to respect the young 'uns
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy and Heweseyb
So whats the moral..we have a pack of Jailbirds representing us.
In reply to FanAttick
dwanye smith has the same talent as bravo but smith has to work on his shot selection,i think he is now much improved player.people forget him what he done in aus series of 7,44,59 not out,21 with the average of 43.40 and 7 wickets.but one loose shot he has been punished.he will work his shot selection during the ipl in india and will come back stronger.west indies will miss him during the matches.
In reply to gayle01
Every cricketer MUST attend to the present and play responsibly. Smith was the better batsman at the crease, not Miller, yet he forgot his own prior proclamations that he had matured, etc. and made the most immature swipe at the ball and was dismissed. Yes it was one loose shot, but unfortunately at a point in the game when it was HIGHLY UNNECESSARY. Dropping him was the correct punishment. Coming back stronger is not a new prediction for Smith, hopefully next time it is more longlasting.