but cannot get the ball off the square regularly...
what do you tell him?
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A Youth - 13 Years Old, Technically V Sound
2010-03-17 08:20:20
2010-03-17 08:25:01
In reply to doosra
build up ur body by eating de right food.with de super bats of t'day if u gat technique u should be able to make distance with ur shots.timing have a lot to do with it always but ur technique should help with dat.
2010-03-17 08:25:20
In reply to doosra ... know one of those as well ... looking forward to the views. I tell him tho, don't worry about it, that will come in time ... mine is 11.
2010-03-17 08:37:27
Tell him doh worry. I was that way up to 15. But as I got stronger, with an impeccable defense, the drives, and flicks began disappearing to the boundary.
We cannot all be the same. But yeah eat the right foods.
2010-03-17 08:47:12
Tell him not to worry, it will come. Once the basics are perfected the offense will flow.
2010-03-17 08:49:45
In reply to doosra
learn to love batting and despise getting out. the rest will come
see Great Man's timing!
2010-03-17 08:56:59
The young Brian Lara once batted at Kensington Park, it seemed all day, and scored one boundary.
He simply was not strong enough but even then his class was undeniable.
Tell the youth to be patient; if he has the technique, maturation will take are of the boundaries.
2010-03-17 09:29:45
In reply to doosra
He needs to drive the ball out meaning
When he finish the stroke,his hands to be right about his head or above-follow through
2010-03-17 09:32:12
Is this thread about d young Chanderpaul? he prob ain't timing d ball good that's why he can't get it off d square. Shiv should make some fish braff fu him 
2010-03-17 09:41:22
In reply to doosra
That's a problem when you practice all de time in de nets or on a concrete strip in yuh back yard.....or with bowling machine and the ball feeder only
THis youth needs to practice on open ground as well ...with fielders around
2010-03-17 09:47:16
In reply to doosra
Technically V Sound but cannot get the ball off the square regularly...
Suggests that he is not technically sound, then. I would reevaluate my conclusion before confusing the youth.
2010-03-17 09:47:19
In reply to doosra
but cannot get the ball off the square regularly...
garry sobers said the same thing about a 15 year old Lara but noted he had a sound technique and did not like getting out.
2010-03-17 10:07:12
Keep building on the basics.
Offensive batting is as much in the mind as the technique. I would work with him to have him learn to enjoy HITTING the ball. we all know at some level the sweet feeling of the ball connecting with the middle of the bat and 'flying' off the bat.
BY way of anecdote ...
I remember nicking my father treasure Gray Nichols bat to play catch with my brother. After one or two soft thrown of the ball which I hit back to him for catching practice, one ball hit the sweet spot and flew back to him so fast, it almost took his head off. I loved that sensation and it was my incentive to try to recreate that feeling. It was the epiphany that really helped me to understand the notion of power and timing.
Try to have your boy experience that sensation and seek to repeat it ... he will then become more aggressive.
A lot of kids also avoid hitting aggressive shots because they are afraid to get out. They way around that if to build confidence and delight in hitting the ball and scoring runs.
As he becomes more accomplished, then start exercises in practice such as 4 runs in 3 balls, 6 in 4 etc etc.
Hope that helps in some way.
2010-03-17 10:19:17
In reply to doosra
Lob a tennis ball to him and ask him to clout it as far as he could.
2010-03-17 11:03:52
In reply to doosra
If he's as technically sound as you suggest, that what he's missing is strength and timing. the timing will come with more practice, but he needs to eat properly and work on getting stronger.
2010-03-17 11:27:00
As a coach I'd tell him that it will come. It's all to do with bat-speed and weight transfer so I'd ensure that his fundamentals are strong. The rest will come with greater strength as he grows. I coach a lot of schoolboy cricketers at my club and very few of them can hit the ball straight off the square at u-13. Most of their runs are scored from deflections. The exceptions seem to be the kids who play hockey as a winter sport. By u-15 level they can all do it.
And it's not even always about practice. I see kids that make huge improvement between u-13 and u-14 despite not playing any sport over the winter. It's as if something just clicks at around 14/15.
2010-03-17 11:37:15
Continue to work hard on his technigue, develop sound defence and Stress TIMING and placement if he has fielders around his sessions..He must learn to value his wicket firstly and learn all the strokes to get runs around the wicket.
He does not need strength at this stage. Hitting the ball in the meat of the bat with good timing and placement will get him boundaries in the longer run.
A couple twos are better than a four at times as it works the fielders more.
2010-03-17 13:12:48
In reply to number09
Tell him doh worry. I was that way up to 15.
And jes look whey u reach.
2010-03-17 13:24:49
In reply to imusic
number 9? 
2010-03-17 13:29:09
In reply to Narper
2010-03-17 14:58:19
How can he be technically sound and can't get the ball off the square? Even at the age of 13 you should be able to get the ball off the square and into the gaps. Yes you run a little more but as your timing and strength develop you start finding the boundaries.
2010-03-17 15:39:42
Don't voop kiddo patience and timing gets runs also
2010-03-17 16:00:42
In reply to doosra
Tell the kid to have a talk with Ganga; he might be able to help him iron out all his problems.
2010-03-17 16:39:38
Hmmmm....if he were technically VERY sound ..then he should be able to get the ball off the square. We in the Windies tend to equate a solid defence with being technically sound. Dat is why Ganga fool we fuh so long. Part of being technically sound is being able to find the gaps in a minimally risky manner..and having decent timing.
As long as we don't start seeing good technique in playing horizontal and vertical bat ATTACKING strokes ..we will continue to be fooled everytime we see a fella play a nice looking forward defensive shot. If he does have good technique in playing the strokes ....and knows when to play them ..then he should be able to get the ball off the square.
Now if he has issues with power ....then that will come with maturity and treating his body right.
2010-03-17 16:40:17
In reply to Larr Pullo
How can he be technically sound and can't get the ball off the square? Even at the age of 13 you should be able to get the ball off the square and into the gaps.
Oh skites....yuh beat mih to it.
2010-03-17 16:40:18
In reply to Larr Pullo
How can he be technically sound and can't get the ball off the square? Even at the age of 13 you should be able to get the ball off the square and into the gaps.
Oh skites....yuh beat mih to it.
2010-03-17 16:54:37
In reply to Cheeks
I was watching this thread whole day hoping someone other than me would point out de obvious.....
Eventually I couldn't restrain myself any longer.....
When I was thirteen getting the ball off the square was not a problem.....worst case you could always leg glance....
2010-03-17 17:01:55
In reply to Larr Pullo
So de Barron nuh know wuh he talking bout when he was describing the 15 year old Lara?
You wooda write he off coz he was unable to get de ball off de square.
If I had your track record of predictions where effectively you basically wrote off all three Cantaro guys I wood keep mih trap firmly shut!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2010-03-17 17:03:38
In reply to Dukes
The Baron was either engaging in Hyperbole or he was under the influence of drink. No way a fifteen year old Lara couldn't get the ball off the square.
You played cricket at 15 and even though you couldn't bat AT AAAALLLLLLLLL I bet you could have gotten one or two off the square!!!
2010-03-17 17:04:20
In reply to Larr Pullo
Even at the age of 13 you should be able to get the ball off the square and into the gaps
Isnt getting the ball off the square and finding gaps two different things?
2010-03-17 17:04:54
I don't even want to mention a 15-year old Tendulkar.. 
2010-03-17 17:05:07
In reply to tommygun
It is...that's why I said "off the square AND into the gaps..."
2010-03-17 17:05:35
Unless technique is a euphemism for defence..
2010-03-17 17:06:13
In reply to Surya
Exactly...I ent know what skunt Dukes talking....
Sarwan his lil boy toy was playing first class cricket at 15! You telling me he could get it off the square and a fifteen year old Lara couldn't?
2010-03-17 17:08:27
In reply to Surya
His bat too heavy...
2010-03-17 17:08:49
In reply to Larr Pullo
Lara at 15
2010-03-17 17:10:07
In reply to Surya
I'm behind the very secure firewall....can't watch....
Tell me, does he get the ball off the square?
2010-03-17 17:11:39
In reply to Larr Pullo
Does it look heavy to you?
2010-03-17 17:13:27
In reply to Surya
I was responding to you tekneek as euphemism for defense comment...
When your bat too heavy often times the only strokes you could play are defensive ones...
2010-03-17 17:17:32
In reply to Larr Pullo
How can he be technically sound and can't get the ball off the square
Are you saying that is impossible?
2010-03-17 17:17:59
In reply to Larr Pullo
Time for "what is technique? " thread..
2010-03-17 17:20:27
In reply to tommygun
Well not impossible because sometimes even accomplished batsmen get into a rut and suddenly have difficulty getting the ball away. This problem is probably caused by something else. It's not lack of strength or timing....at that young age I would check his equipment.
2010-03-17 17:21:57
In reply to Larr Pullo
So you can't be technically sound and not be able to get balls of the square?
2010-03-17 17:23:12
In reply to CricketLuva4
No!
2010-03-17 17:24:37
In reply to Larr Pullo
Hmmm..my suspicion is true.."technical soundness" is being understood as defence.
2010-03-17 17:28:16
In reply to Surya
Precisely....they should have said "technically sound in defence".
2010-03-17 17:30:46
In reply to Larr Pullo
Do you think someone who is technically sound in defense would be easier to work with than a flashing strokemaker who doesn't have good defense?
2010-03-17 17:32:00
In reply to CricketLuva4
At a sufficiently early age, both are easy to work with..
2010-03-17 17:33:47
In reply to Larr Pullo
So can you be technically sound in offense and cant get the ball off the square?
2010-03-17 17:34:23
In reply to tommygun
If you can't get the ball off the square you not technically sound....
Even if you're not a good driver of the ball at the very least you should be able to play square and behind square on both sides of the wicket.
2010-03-17 17:40:03
In reply to Larr Pullo
If you can't get the ball off the square you not technically sound....
Where you call square,for me its around the 30 yrd circle
2010-03-17 17:43:46
In reply to Larr Pullo
I was a bowling all-rounder.My leg-spin googlies were a connoisseur's delight.My late order heroics with the bat were legendary(at least in my mind)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2010-03-17 17:45:52
In reply to Dukes
How legendary???
2010-03-17 18:08:25
Tell the youth to take up another sport.
2010-03-17 18:42:27
In reply to Larr Pullo
How can he be technically sound and can't get the ball off the square?
Lawd, this is a message board so see with them....that is all I could say.
2010-03-17 19:20:48
In reply to doosra
I am assuming that at 13 the problem is not strength but placement ( Morton hits very hard but has the same problem).
he has to learn to use the wrists and the face of the bat to get it where he wants it and not where the fielders are.
Patience is needed
2010-03-18 03:08:11
In reply to doosra
I have read the whole thread. Here are my suggestions.
To be a batsman you need four qualities.
1) Technique
2) Confidence, Concentration, relaxation, mental state etc..
3) Decision making for example shot selection
4) Muscle ( Power, Speed, Strength, Cardio, Muscle etc..)
Identify which is lacking and everything effects timing. Coach is the best to access.
Faster muscles move + technique = better foce and timing