And nuff idiots here be calling for your head.
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chanders, anything less than 2 100s
In reply to brians_da_best
Dude, even Simmons scored a double in these type matches, after 20 years, anyone would expect him to score runs.
In reply to brians_da_best
an ole idiot was the first to reply to you
In reply to Narper
Hmmmph
Not impressed
Should have at least scored a double.
In reply to openning
so what do you expect of Shiv...tell us please or should he even be on the team?
In reply to openning
In reply to shivnotout
I've always look at Shiv, like a Joe Solomon, a Larry Gomes or a Gus Loguie.
He just played longer, that's all.
In reply to brians_da_best
In reply to Master_Blaster
This team has been losing for most of Shiv's career, he is no Michael Jordan, so at forty, it is time for his exit.
In reply to openning... none of which ended with an above 50 average.
In reply to openning
OK then. But I personally think that in any line of work it is about performance and anyone who is performing at the highest level in any industry cannot be blamed for the failures of his co-workers and whether he retains employment or not depends on his or her performance.
Shiv is performing at the highest level and. therefore, should be retained until such time that he is no longer performing, or decides to retire, depending which comes first.
With regards to the other players you mentioned above I believe that, based on numbers, Shiv is way above all of them.
In reply to Master_Blaster
Sports is not any line of work, that's why great players get traded or cut.
Jerry Rich had to leave San Fran, in order to play longer, and he was a champion performer.
In reply to openning
1) Jerry Rice was replaced because there was someone younger and better
2)If cricket is a business then it should be run like one
In reply to Master_Blaster
Who was the younger and better player, that replace Jerry Rice?
If it was run like a business, Shiv would not stuck at #5
In reply to brians_da_best
Shiv averages 104 vs Bangladesh. He could play vs them till he is 60.
In reply to openning
you really should not make arguments if you do not know what you are talking about...ask some of your friends to help you out...
As a matter of fact if you look at Shiv's numbers at #5 you would keep him there and the manager should be promoted for managing him well...present numbers and do not deal in hypothetical..
In reply to Commie
based on the numbers maybe you are correct..maybe your other friend on this thread will learn to deal in facts too..smh
In reply to Master_Blaster
I understand his point.
Shiv is way smarter than he is perceived. He knows with a new regime in place his place might be questioned so he talks about mentoring and he plays a friendly game to SHOW Pybus them he is fit and willing.
Take in front before in front take you.
Brilliant psychology but the truth remains he is 40 and whilst the WICB proper have no intention of dropping him, he doesn't want any new direction to exclude him.
I suspect that Shiv will bow out when he achieves the milestones he seeks in terms of being top run scorer.
In reply to Commie
he is way smarter than the Naper Sardunce and the tribe, he will take india , but call quit before facing the Saffies
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