Paint
Johnson
??
G. Bravo
Shiv
Blackwood???
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Angel
The Don
Holder
??
??
At least three spots up for grabs. Who would y'all like to see?
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Name your touring team to India
2014-09-15 15:44:37
2014-09-15 15:49:26
For the bowlers they might include Rampaul and Shillingford or Narine if he is interested in playing for WI
For the ?? at the top it might still be Gayle (at least for the limited overs part) or Samuels.
Blackwood still deserves and overseas tour and should be included. Pollard and Big Bravo will come in for Blackwood and Shiv when they get to ODIs and 20/20 as well as Russell for Gabriel.
2014-09-15 15:50:21
drop Shiv..... he too old....
2014-09-15 15:51:19
In reply to Larr Pullo
Gayle
Paint
Johnson
G. Bravo
Shiv
Blackwood
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Holder
Rampaul
Gabriel
Narine
2014-09-15 15:52:01
Narine
2014-09-15 15:52:15
In reply to Larr Pullo
Shiv
What !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2014-09-15 15:52:29
In reply to Larr Pullo
Paint y
Johnson y
?? ambris
G. Bravo y
Shiv y
Blackwood??? y
Ramdin y
Roach y
Taylor y
Benn y
Angel gabriel
The Don y
Holder y
?? that young opener from ja, name escapes me now (John Campbell).
?? young keeper from tnt,
2014-09-15 15:53:54
I would take Dwayne Bravo for his India experience, Kuk should make the team
Gayle
Kraigg
Johnson
Bravo jr
Chanderpaul
Blackwood
Ramdin
Holder
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Gabriel
Kirk
Shillingford/Narang
Bravo sr
Rampaul
2014-09-15 15:55:58
In reply to openning
I would take Dwayne Bravo for his India experience,
YES.
Kuk should make the team
HELL NO.... not even as permanent wata boy... send him back to the drawing board...
2014-09-15 15:56:53
In reply to openning
Kuk should make the team
as what, a porter
2014-09-15 15:57:47
In reply to grumpy... John Campbell.
2014-09-15 15:58:04
In reply to openning
"Dwayne Bravo" to bat or to bowl?
2014-09-15 15:58:37
In reply to natty_forever
thanks that`s him 
2014-09-15 15:59:54
In reply to tc1
You need someone to replace him.
Blackwood and Johnson will be part of the squad, Kirk scored in India, so he will be in the squad.
Who would you replace kurt with?
2014-09-15 16:01:35
In reply to openning
Tage 
2014-09-15 16:01:40
In reply to grumpy
"Dwayne Bravo" to bat or to bowl?
You need that um factor at times.
2014-09-15 16:02:19
Lendl Simmons.
_r
2014-09-15 16:02:58
In reply to openning
Bonner or Ambris....
2014-09-15 16:04:12
In reply to openning
"Who would you replace kurt with" the young opener from ja john campbell 
2014-09-15 16:04:58
In reply to Admin
Have no problem with Lendl for Kirk.
That's why I like talking to cricket fans
2014-09-15 16:05:24
Lix is all dem going get.
I would bring Carlos B into the team, bat Kuk at 4, and drop Gabriel for Narine.
Something like.
Gayle
Braff
Bravo
Edwards
Shiv
Ramdin
Braithwaite
Roach
Taylor
Narine
Benn
2014-09-15 16:05:59
In reply to openning
"Lendl for Kirk" in t20?
2014-09-15 16:07:57
In reply to Larr Pullo
Bonner or Ambris..
Another young Jamaican is better than them two, even though Joshua don't like him.
2014-09-15 16:08:14
Anyone who lists Narine in their Test team to India please ignore. They just talking nonsense.
2014-09-15 16:12:50
Gabriel has 4 wickets in the series, playing at home against the #9 ranked team.
How do you all imagine he's going to fare when we play India in India? Why not Rampaul or Fidel, both of whom have more experience in sub continent pitches?
2014-09-15 16:15:36
In reply to Commie
You are a divisionish just like Lara.
Your team make no sense.
2014-09-15 16:16:46
In reply to Disciple
he Gabriel has pace, a good mentor in ambrose and he tries hard. to answer your question, better than the other pretenders 
2014-09-15 16:17:44
Kirk should get another tour,
not sure he could be that bad so fast.
2014-09-15 16:18:55
In reply to camos
he kirk lacks discipline...needs to go back to basics
2014-09-15 16:19:38
In reply to openning
Whats a divisionish ?
My team makes perfect sense.
You have to choose whether its going to be a learning experience, or you are going to put a team for show.
Narine and Benn and three pacers. Gabriel will get pounded into the turf. WI need an allrounder.
2014-09-15 16:20:19
In reply to grumpy
so Ambi is going on the pitch unknown to the umpires and bowl fuh the Angel Gabriel
2014-09-15 16:22:32
In reply to Larr Pullo
what the fact shiv doing in larr's team. he bats too slow, doesnt win matches, will keep talented youngsters out of the team and is too old...
2014-09-15 16:34:45
In reply to grumpy
Gabriel could have how much pace and try how hard, that doesn't equate to getting wickets. We need to pick bowlers who take wickets, not those who have pace.
Gabriel's 1 wicket in India cost 85 runs, and his 2 in New Zealand came at a cost of 125 apiece. Have we seen anything in his wicket taking ability to suggest he can inprove those returns?
2014-09-15 16:37:33
In reply to Disciple
You could still take him to India, just play Holder in his place.
2014-09-15 16:40:42
In reply to Disciple
Gabriel has the raw ingredients that ambrose need to work with, pace and the ability to listen it appears and the height for the extra bounce especially on flat indian wickets.
2014-09-15 17:24:57
In reply to Commie
What has Carlos Brathwaite done to be selected ahead of Holder or Russell?
Blackwood and Johnson MUST be in the squad.
You cannot drop Gabriel just because he is a tit, and you like some bajans.
2014-09-15 17:46:24
In reply to Commie
Lix is all dem going get.
I would bring Carlos B into the team, bat Kuk at 4, and drop Gabriel for Narine.
Something like.
Gayle
Braff
Bravo
Edwards
Shiv
Ramdin
Braithwaite
Roach
Taylor
Narine
Benn
Something like.
Gayle
Braff
Bravo
Edwards
Shiv
Ramdin
Braithwaite
Roach
Taylor
Narine
Benn
i like the CB pick but i would also pick Simmons in the squad along with Holder. they are gonna get some liks but what the hell
2014-09-15 17:54:31
In reply to sudden
Holder must play .
2014-09-15 17:56:55
In reply to openning
Braithwaite actually served his time and only didn't graduate because of a knee injury.
Holder and Gabriel can go, but Braithwaite is a proper allrounder and the other bowlers in the 11 are better than Holder.
I just picked the 11. Johnson and Blackwood would go but honestly they will both likely be at sea.
2014-09-15 18:05:28
In reply to Commie
I am not a Carlos fan, as I am not a DRS or a Caeter.
I believe in players scoring runs or taking wickets, I've yet to see Carlos doing this at the regional level, or mong the top players any year.
2014-09-15 18:10:10
In reply to openning
I believe in players scoring runs
Add Kuk to your list of Shytehounds.
2014-09-15 18:22:22
In reply to SnoopDog
Kirk just need to humble himself and get back to the basis.
That batting stance in working, I would not be surprise if he is coaching himself, instead of getting another eye in bim.
2014-09-15 18:25:18
In reply to Larr Pullo
Samuels and Sarwan will come back we like to recycle
2014-09-15 18:32:31
In reply to openning
Carlos ave 30 with the bat for Bim and 19 with the ball. Thats over 11 matches. He has a better Ave with both bat and ball than Jason Holder who has....drumroll...12 matches.
So what's the argument again?
2014-09-15 18:35:33
If I can remember when west indies is touring they pick a 16 man squad well I am picking my squad for the test team.
1. Gayle
2. Cregg
3. Johnson
4. Young Bravo
5. Shiv
6. Blackwood
7. Ramdin
8. Taylor
9. Roach
10.Benn
11.Narine
12.Gabriel
13.Holder
14.walton back up wicket keeper over sea tour
15.Carter
16.Big Bravo
thats my touring team for the test
2014-09-15 21:49:49
My squad of 16.
Paint
Gayle
Johnson
Blackwood
Kirk
DM Bravo
Shiv
Pollard
Ramdin
Roach
Benn
Narine
Gariel
Holder
Rampaul
Taylor
2014-09-15 22:16:11
In reply to Commie
I quite agree with you on C. Braithwaite. He will fill the allrounder spot competently.
Find room for J. Holder and we will have the makings of a decent lower middle order.
They will both be a handful on the SA wickets and maybe India also.
For some added experience and mental toughness I will include Pollard in the side also.
Would also like to see S. Ambris included on the both tours for the experience.
Batting lineup as it stands is too inexperienced for India and South Africa.
2014-09-15 22:23:16
In reply to 90mph
Carlos Brathwaite played any A team cricket yet? What makes y'all think he's ready to be a test all-rounder? Sometimes I think y'all smoke weed on this board...too much weed....
2014-09-15 22:26:11
16 Man Squad
Gayle
Brathwaite
Kirk (good player on less seamer friendly wickets)
Lil B
Shiv
Blackwood
Ramdin
Holder
Taylor
Roach
Benn
Shilly
Narine
Ambris
C. Brathwaite
L. Johnson
Ambris would be a better player in asia than Blackwood, he's much more accomplished against Spin but i'd give blackwood the chance first as he's going well so far. Simply put, I aint have much hope for Gabriel. That pace in asia with no movement is just set up fo blows. You need something extra in Asia, the height of Holder, or people who can move the ball off the pitch like Roach, C. Brathwaite. Ambris also has donned the gloves before, so can act as Ramdin's reserve. Kirk hasn't done well this series, but he does well on flatter pitches, plus he is aggressive against spin, and you just can't let ashwin and them guys bowl at you with no fuss. Rampaul is a good fast bowler, but if he only plays 2 test series back to back plus ODI, he'll be on the physio bench for the next 6 months. Might as well leave him for ODI's and T20's.
There's a reason why guys like Gillespie and McGrath got success in India. They moved the ball off the seam. Very rare has express pace bowlers done well in India. Lee, Johnson etc have all travelled all over the place to players who are not well renowned against pace.
2014-09-15 22:27:31
In reply to Larr Pullo
Holder has played 3 WI A matches, CB one.
Holder has played 12 times for Bim, CB 11.
Holder also played 6 games for CCC.
Yet you want to tell me a team without any allrounder will turn down a player who has a better bowling and batting average than Holder because Holder has played less than 10 more matches ?
My weed is weaker than yours
2014-09-15 22:35:37
Kieran Powell would be another name, he's one of our better players against spin, and has shown that on his 2 tours to India already. Looked the best of all the batters on tour the last time but gave away all the starts. I know batsmen usually struggle when they just come to the crease, but Powell and Lil Bravo seem to make more mistake when they nearing them 30's and onwards.
2014-09-15 22:57:30
In reply to Larr Pullo
Yuh wukkin too hard...stop worrying bout who smoking weed...probably u need to try some yuhself.....
Until we start playing more first class cricket the selectors will have to be intuitive and pick players based on potential...based on what I've seen I think Carlos Braithwaite has loads.
Thought the same of Delorn Johnson but dunno what went wrong with him
2014-09-16 01:27:42
Gayle
Braithwaite
Sarwan (instinct pick)
Darren Bravo
Chanderpaul
Blackwood
Ramdin
Holder
Taylor
Roach
Benn
________
Kieran Powell
Leon Johnson
Shillingford
Russell
Cotterell
2014-09-16 08:02:48
In reply to Commie
What about experience in India? Leh we hear yuh nah?
2014-09-16 08:26:37
In reply to jen
Ambris would be a better player in asia than Blackwood, he's much more accomplished against Spin but i'd give blackwood the chance first as he's going well so far.
Kindly indulge me here:
Which international Asian spinners has Ambris faced in Asia to make you arrive at this definitive conclusion?
2014-09-16 09:06:37
In reply to Commie
Both CB and JH should be encouraged and qualify for the very best training available in WI. These gents are large dudes with raw ability with ball and bat. Sir Curtley should be capable of molding one or both in to the Test team, they will need a lil more pace but with their height, the combination of bounce and learning to bowl a viscous yorker a la Big Bird Garner they could be nasty customers!
Carlos has been playing reasonably well at all levels especially considering the physical set back he experienced at a critical point in his development, which cost the better part of 2 yrs! 
2014-09-16 09:11:35
All teams selected are lacking BATTING DEPTH!
WI need at least 7 batsmen fighting for 6 spots plus Ramdin as Wkpr/ batsman!
2014-09-16 09:17:03
In reply to brians_da_best
How come you jus dash wey Narine so?
2014-09-17 03:15:50
In reply to Larr Pullo
Paint
Johnson
Lil Bravo
Shiv
Blackwood
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Angel
The Don
Holder
Bishoo
Shilly or Narine
A recall for Samuels....
2014-09-17 06:26:44
Gayle
Brathwaite
Johnson
Bravo
Samuels
Chanderpaul
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Narine
Holder
Blackwood
Gabriel
Powell
2014-09-17 08:13:54
In reply to Baje
Interesting. Only four bowlers.
2014-09-17 08:15:31
In reply to Commie... and Samuels. SMH ... Samuels need to go play FC cricket to be eligible to represent.
2014-09-17 08:23:02
In reply to natty_forever
Thats a tough ask. Samuels cant go from not playing for a while to bowling major overs (and it will be major), in South Africa.
2014-09-17 08:43:55
1.Gayle
2.Brathwaite
3.Johnson
4.Lil B
5.Chanders
6.Samuels
7.Simmons
8.Ramdin
9.Roach
10.Holder
11.Gabriel
12.Narine
13.Shilly
14.Benn
15.Taylor
2014-09-17 09:13:19
In reply to Commie
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Holder
Gabriel
Narine
Who are the two non-bowlers?
2014-09-17 09:15:34
In reply to natty_forever
and Samuels. SMH ... Samuels need to go play FC cricket to be eligible to represent.
I have more confidence in rusty Samuels than Kirk or Blackwood. If those two can go, so can Marlon
2014-09-17 10:28:21
My 15
Gayle (cause they fraid to drop him, and he no want to stop play cause he fraid he gets called out on it)
Braffit man belongs there
Powell (just in case Gayle drop off he seems to be in they graces, remember he basically opted out of cricket for a while)
Kuk (they no ready to drop him yet so he will go might play
Leon John ( no reason he shouldn't be there)
Shvi (nothing needs to be said)
Blackwood (why not)
Ramdin (Mr cappo)
Rampaul (He needs to get back there) If fit and can last full games should play, up to him
Roach (de man creeping up to be best in the world)
Big Benn (will cause some havoc)
Holder (up and coming young fast bowler, there to gain more experience
Angel Gabriel (they seem to favour him don't know how well he'll do
Shilly (don't see why they keep picking him and nah play him, but I see them still taking him guess they working on getting him to be a strike partner with benny
Simmons (part time bowler, opener good batsman, part time keeper) Sure he can get a note from Rammo to cause him to bat well if called upon.
2014-09-17 10:37:13
In reply to Baje
I meant in your 11.
Gayle
Brathwaite
Johnson
Bravo
Samuels
Chanderpaul
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Narine
If you go in with Samuels...always a risk to be banned from bowling, as your 5th bowler, its a huge risk.
Much less if someone breaks down.
2014-09-17 10:39:40
Regarding Benn. Unless he does a Panesar he has history to contend with.
Indian batsmen usually consider left-arm spinners as an opportunity to score heavily through cut and sweep shots. In all 58 cricketers have bowled left-arm spin in India and 45 of them have accounted for 389 wickets (before the start of the second Test here).
Hedley Verity — who died during World War II — took seven for 49 against India at Madras in the 1933-34 series and the record still stands for a left-arm spinner.
The English left-arm spinners, 14 in all, who have been seen in action in India are Verity, Panesar, Derek Underwood (54 wickets), Tony Lock, Edmonds, Malcolm Hilton, J. Langridge, D. Wilson, Ashley Giles, Phil Tufnell, Norman Gifford, Donald Carr, Samit Patel and Ian Blakewell.
Denis Compton, Maurice Leyland, Geoffrey Cook, David Lloyd, Min Patel and Brian Luckhurst have also bowled left-arm spin against India, but in England.
In all 76 left-arm spinners have taken 602 wickets at 40.47 against India.
Hedley Verity — who died during World War II — took seven for 49 against India at Madras in the 1933-34 series and the record still stands for a left-arm spinner.
The English left-arm spinners, 14 in all, who have been seen in action in India are Verity, Panesar, Derek Underwood (54 wickets), Tony Lock, Edmonds, Malcolm Hilton, J. Langridge, D. Wilson, Ashley Giles, Phil Tufnell, Norman Gifford, Donald Carr, Samit Patel and Ian Blakewell.
Denis Compton, Maurice Leyland, Geoffrey Cook, David Lloyd, Min Patel and Brian Luckhurst have also bowled left-arm spin against India, but in England.
In all 76 left-arm spinners have taken 602 wickets at 40.47 against India.
2014-09-17 10:50:03
In reply to Commie
What's your beef with Benn? Serious question.
_r
2014-09-17 10:54:57
In reply to Admin
None. I actually said before that Narine and Benn should be in the first 11 and its on this thread.
from a temperament point of view I think he is like Lance Stephenson. An asset when dialled in and a total liability when not.
2014-09-17 10:57:29
In reply to Commie
Agree on the temperament issue. He never saw an argument/cussout that he didn't want to get involved in. I was telling this to Larr yesterday when he started whining about the batsman accidentally touching him while running between the wickets. Everything is a damn fight. I suppose he has some baggage with surroundings while growing up. But yeah, he is definitely a head case.
Narine can't bowl for too long in Test cricket before people start asking serious questions.
_r
2014-09-17 11:03:09
C. Brathwaite and M. Cummings did very well on an A team tour not long ago.
Where is M. Cummings ?
2014-09-17 11:32:06
Most likely WICB will select 2 separate teams for ODI and Test and maybe only about 8 players will be selected for both.
2014-09-17 13:22:58
In reply to Larr Pullo
Paint
Johnson
Bravo
G. Bravo
Shiv
Blackwood
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Angel
Gayle
Holder
Rampaul
spinner
2014-09-17 13:39:45
In reply to Baje... yes Marlon can go ... go a him yaad.
2014-09-17 14:19:59
In reply to Larr Pullo
Gayle
Paint
Kuk
Johnson
Lil Bravo
Shiv
Blackwood
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn
Samuels
Narine
Angel
Thomas
Holder
2014-09-17 21:40:49
Kirk loves India bats spin on low pitches well - will tour.
Gabriel got less bounce than both Taylor and Roach in Lucia is in India he goin get bounce? The Bang get beat for pace but none feared him as they worried about Roach instead.
2014-09-18 06:40:33
Gayle
Kraig B
Johnson
Darren Bravo
Shiv Chanderpaul
Blackwood
Ramdin
Benn
Roach
Taylor
Gabriel
Holder
Narine
Kirk Edwards
Dwayne Bravo
2014-09-18 08:11:58
In reply to Pacy
I like your squad.
The ODI's that precede the Tests could have a bearing though.
I would hope that Taylor and Roach are not in the ODI squad thus offering
opportunity for C.Brathwaite , Cotterel and Beaton to see what they can offer
looking to the WC.
2014-09-18 11:36:09
In reply to hubert
Craig Brathwaite and Russel are 2 guys that I am looking forward to in the ODI matches... Particularly their bowling. If they can show that they can be good bowlers we could have a very lengthy batting lineup in the WC
2014-09-18 11:41:35
In reply to Pacy
Carlos not Paint. Yes,he deserves a good look if they are pointing to the future staring with the WC.
He can bat too.
Others in the background now like Powell and Samuels can make a case again for the Tests/ODIs in SA as the WI season is SUPPOSED to start mid November while the India Tour is still on.
2014-09-18 12:14:41
In reply to Larr Pullo
My 15 would be
Braithwaite
Johnson---------Simmons
Gayle
Lil Bravo
Shiv
Blackwood-------Pollard
Ramdin
Roach
Taylor
Benn-------------Narine
Gabriel----------Holder
& if there is room for a 16th player, then an extra fast bowler: Rampaul
2014-09-18 15:21:51
In reply to Larr Pullo
Here's my fifteen. Let me start by explaining that we absolutely need to get a batsman in the top six who can bowl good tight overs and get wickets for India. The tracks are flat and it will be a heavy workload especially for Taylor and roach. Gabriel was Admirable but I will not start him on the Indian tracks as he will not be effective since he rarely gets any movement. He will be good in South Africa--- just saying. The top six all rounder's spot has to go to either Bravo or Holder as we need to play two top quality spinners. Below is my X1 in batting order along w reserves. We are playing five specialist batsmen so Shiv moves up one place to 4.
Kraig B
Johnson
Darren Bravo
Shiv Chanderpaul
Blackwood
Ramdin
Holder
Taylor
Roach
Benn
Narine
Gabriel - in India to learn and as a reward for his efforts against Bangladesh. He will do well against Saffies and should start there instead of extra spinner
Gayle - Not convinced by his form and fitness
Kirk Edwards - Has done well in India and could squeeze Johnson or Blackwood if he goes well in warm-ups
Dwayne Bravo - Competes w Holder
Note: We should take 16 players and include Miguel Cummins. I believe his bowling style will also be good in India and could replace one of the quicks if they break down. I would play him over Gabriel although Gabriel is picked in the squad ahead of him. May seem sill, but Gabriel is a reward pick for India to encourage him--he should not play
2014-09-18 16:01:03
1. Kraigg Brathwaite
2. Chris Gayle
3. Darren Bravo
4. Leon Johnson
5. Shiv Chanderpaul
6. Jermaine Blackwood
7. Denesh Ramdin
8. Kemar Roach
9. Jerome Taylor
10.Sulliemann Benn
11.Jason Holder
12. Shannon Gabriel
13. Kirk Edwards
14. Sunil Narine
15. Dwayne Bravo
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