It seems that some folks were touting Mickey Arthur, but from what Pybus has indicated, he would prefer to have Windies greats to pass on knowledge to the next generation. So I am expecting a Windies coach.
In the interest of Harmony, since we have two Trini captains, having a Trini coach might have the group singing from the same hymn book.
Another harmonic group seems to be forming: Ambrose Bowling coach, Williams batting coach, Richardson captain, Baptiste Coach.
Lets see what happens
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Next Windies coach
In reply to Baje
I predict that Arthur will be the new coach. Don't be distracted by that other stuff. Arthur and Pybus are friends--that's how his name surfaced in the first place.
In reply to Baje
The West Indies team more needs someone that knows how to motivate individuals for the betterment of the team, rather than a skills coach IMO
We already have skills coaches in the setup. Whoever that person is also needs to be a cricket person, and must be responsible & accountable for results and performance. Therefore, that person also gets to pick his team (squad), scouts, other coaches, captain, etc.
I have heard on some other threads persons asking whether we have regional coaches with the requisite coaching qualification to coach at the highest level. Does Baptiste presently have these said qualifications? (genuine question). I also believe that when Chanderpaul eventually goes he should be included in the coaching staff as a batting consultant. He migh tnot have the flair associated with the 'Greats' of West Indies cricket but that ability to value ones wicket will be important.
In reply to yardman83
I think Gibson is the only WI-born coach with a level 4 coaching certificate. There are some with level 3 certificates. If we hire someone without a level 4 certificate, I think we would be the only top 8 team without a level 4 coach. Pybus is a level 4 coach.
In reply to Walco
Baptiste wants it.
In reply to Commie
So does Ambrose
ROGER HARPER
In reply to Walco... you sure?
In reply to natty_forever
No, but Arthur has two things going for him. He and Pybus are friends and he is a Level 4 coach. My prediction.
In reply to Walco... not that, about Ambi wanting it.
In reply to yardman83
Baptiste is the only coach in the Caribbean with a level 4 certificate.
In reply to jen
Not true ROGER & MONTY LYNCH
West indies will ditch the post of manager when Richie's term is over. They'll only be using a coach going forward.
In reply to natty_forever
Yes
In reply to Walco... saw a quote where he said he didn't, would rather be a 'father figure'.
In reply to natty_forever
That quote was dated I think--from years ago?
In reply to Walco.. I feel so, yes. So you saying he has changed his mind.
In reply to Commie
Just confirmed that he is a Level 4 coach. He would be a good choice, but I would seriously question his judgment if he wants that job.
In reply to Walco
why would you question him ,what is he giving up to take WI job?
In reply to camos
The new WI coach will suffer the same fate as those that preceded him. Sustained success is not an option. More moderate success and devastating failures on the horizon.
In reply to Walco
What is needed for sustained success in your opinion?
In reply to Baje
In the interest of Harmony, since we have two Trini captains, having a Trini coach might have the group singing from the same hymn book.
So Lara will be the next coach? Cause dats the only great player that the Titties produced....
In reply to Walco
Did you see how he was stuck to Lloyd like Velcroe during the Bang series?
If he takes it, good luck to him.....
must the coach be a holder of a level 4 certification?
Look at this before you answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcoDV0dhWPA
In reply to Walco
Baptiste will face the same challenges Gibson faced.
A white fella will do the trick.
In reply to Commie
What is that, fear of mirrors?
In reply to imusic
WICB's production of a finished product (players) prior to elevation to the senior level would be a good place to start. The senior team should not be a finishing school for players. And we need more disciplined professionals on the senior team.
The WICB is more responsible for the lack of disciplined and professional players than the individual players though.
In reply to Commie
He will be more accepted by a certain demographic (the beauty pageant crew and the bleachers), but I doubt he will achieve better results.
In reply to Larr Pullo
If he takes it, good luck to him.....
No. I was traveling and did not see most of the match. But Baptiste will need a lot more than luck to succeed as WI coach. I don't even think a good obeah man would be able to help him
In reply to Walco
Give a new coach a new team, and he might succeed.
Give him this motley crew pulling in all directions and only a real outsider divorced from every single thing about their personalities can succeed.
In organisations with culture crisis, they actively look to outside the organisational realm to find leaders.
I see it no different in this case.
One coach I always felt would be great for WI is Dav Whatmore.
In fact Whatmore is available.
In reply to Commie
Not when politicians and insular WICB directors deh 'bout. Too much outside interference in the West Indies setup. Coaches do not have enough power or institutional support.
You may be right though. It will take a white man to bring about real change in WI cricket though. Even the most anti-white among us love white people. They just don't know it
Whatmore is a good coach. Would love to know which of the applicants for the WI coaching job placed a call to Ottis.
In reply to Walco
Whatmore isnt just a good coach, he is a coach used to dealing with chaos.
Bangladesh one good period was under his watch, SL of course had a great spell under him, and he dealt with the zoo of Pakistan.
In reply to Commie
Interestingly Pybus also dealt with Pakistan. Wonder how he would compare their zoo to ours?
Is Whatmore a disciplinarian?
In reply to Walco
Would love to know which of the applicants for the WI coaching job placed a call to Ottis
What are you trying to say here mate?
In reply to Walco
Whatmore
I must say...I like him.
In reply to sudden
Just referring to standard due diligence. Good to get the perspective of the last man in the job. You don't have to take it as gospel though.
In reply to Walco
Ok got you. That is like if I want to be a fence sitter, I should call Powen to get a feel for the job, ent?
In reply to Commie
Thanks, I like what he says here.
This statement highlights how far we have to go in Test cricket. We are a good 6-8 players from the kind of team that Whatmore visualizes.
In reply to sudden
Please to leave me out of you and Powen business nuh man
In reply to Walco
Have a read of this...some very interesting similarities with WI cricket
Whatmore interview
Lara is not the only great player from Trinidad to represent the West Indies . Gus Logie , Larry Gomes , Learie Constantine , Gerry Gomez , Sonny Ramadin ,Derick Murray , Charlie Davis are all great players . Lara was the exception player to come from Trinidad who was also among the best in the world ever .
What we need from a coach . Yes they are all #1's
1. Some one who can calculate DuckWorth Lewis correctly
1. Some one who can have the team play at their best .
1. Some one who can convince the WICB to have a spin coach a pace coach and a batting coach .
To be continued ....
Would the fellas be interested in trying to pull Phil Simmons in? Although, I'm sure Simmons wouldn't be available until after the WC in any event, he seems fully dedicated to getting Ireland to the next level.
In reply to Commie
How will you determine "success"?
How will the new coach improve the quality of the pool of reserve players-who presumably will form the core of this "new team"-and who, year after year, perform so dismally in our FC competition?
Is it a coach they intend to hire or a magician?
Will they finally be able to mount their much touted 'star team', sans the better, more established players across the region, with an inspirational coach and captain?
I for one will wait and see!
In reply to Commie
DW: I am unaware of any indiscipline with regard to senior players during my tenure. My style of management is to treat them as the grown men that they are. Having said that, there were occasions which warranted my wrath in the privacy of our dressing room after certain losses.
I am well aware that many feel that I should have adopted the head master approach, but my philosophy has been a proven success over many years in the sub-continent.
Hmmmm ... Wonder how that approach would translate to the West Indies team?
DW: I have noticed that there appears to be very little nationalism towards the national team. I always felt Karachi, Lahore and other cities were more interested in promoting players from their respective city to the detriment of a unified Pakistan Cricket Team.
Hahaha ... Whatmore is probably the foreign coach most prepared to coach in the West Indies setup.
DW: I believe there is no lack of world class batsmen in Pakistan, but I always felt that players could rarely relax in terms of feeling secure in relation to selection. Therefore it is very difficult to consistently perform with this in the back of your mind.
Also, more encouragement and support from the right people would go a long way in solving this.
Kuk Edwards?
DW: Their psyche is look after yourself because Nobody Else Will! The Pakistani players need more support and less criticism.
Shiv?
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