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Well, he does pelt

 
Admin 2014-09-29 19:10:05 

What's all this sudden shock?

 
Emir 2014-09-29 19:12:33 

In reply to Admin

You are not an expert in bowling actions. evil

 
imusic 2014-09-29 19:26:41 

In reply to Emir

He IS an expert in WICBC Presidents tho cool

 
Admin 2014-09-29 19:34:40 

In reply to imusic

I told you years ago he does pelt. Nuh true?

_r

 
BeatDball 2014-09-29 19:37:01 

Whenever a bowler's action is 'funny', i get suspicious n irate...however, im not going to jump on admin's donkey cart, yet! He, admin had sung that 'tune' sometime ago.

 
BatQuake 2014-09-29 19:38:26 

In reply to Emir

So are you saying that the Admin called R..., the Snowden-like wonder, is wrong with his assessment?

 
Emir 2014-09-29 19:39:02 

In reply to imusic

It just seems so many peeps here who should know better, cannot hide their glee, never mind the absence of Narine can harm WI cricket.

 
imusic 2014-09-29 19:39:19 

In reply to Admin

Julian? lol

And yes...you said that long ago.

You also said xavier marshall was the real deal. cool

 
Commie 2014-09-29 19:50:29 

The ICC are at sea. They let Narine throw for so long without reprimand people actually believed his action was fine.

Lets see if Ohja and Ashwin get called.

 
Runs 2014-09-29 20:52:11 

Narine might be history or regular lol

 
Bain 2014-09-29 21:42:51 

If you go by the MCC laws of cricket, Narine definitely chucks. His arm straightens during delivery. That is clear as day to anybody who knows cricket and even reasonable eyesight. What is to be determined is if he will contravene the ICC condition of 15degrees.

Tired of the hypocrisy (or ignorance).

Narine fling.
Shillingford fling.
Marlon fling.
Cooper fling.
Nuff other man too.

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2014-09-29 22:12:51 

In reply to Bain

Get rid of the 15 and the problem goes away.
Nothing will be left to interpretation.

 
Bain 2014-09-29 22:32:50 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

Do you mean to call everything or call nothing?

 
TheTrail 2014-09-30 16:40:06 

In reply to Bain


Tired of the hypocrisy (or ignorance).

Narine fling.
Shillingford fling.
Marlon fling.
Cooper fling.
Nuff other man too.



Is Pollard next?

 
buds 2014-09-30 17:29:37 

The ICC should never have bent the rule--Such hypocrisy to be calling the Pelters when you made it legal to cheat--This is such a case where the ICC got it wrong--No sweat just go back to no 15 degree, period!!

 
SpudsMcKenzie 2014-09-30 17:56:47 

In reply to buds & Commie

No sweat just go back to no 15 degree, period


Murali wouldn't complain!!

It amazes me that no one has even mentioned the possible scenario that can arise.

What??

Allyuh tink nuh!!

Ok...lemme help.

The HUGE question, and most interesting is:::: Will they report Murali in the IPL next year????

THAT is where the shit can really hit the fan.

Best regards!

@RMc@

 
SpudsMcKenzie 2014-09-30 20:52:26 

Wait wait wait a minute....................Commie, doosie, Batty, Lenkie gone kuntry or what??

Chrissy?

@RMc@

 
methodic 2014-09-30 20:55:11 

In reply to TheTrail

of course Pollard does fling

 
BeatDball 2014-09-30 20:59:17 

In reply to methodic Polly is meh bwoy, but honestly, his deliveries isnt what i would call, proper!!

 
methodic 2014-09-30 21:01:32 

In reply to BeatDball

if he was quick dey woulda call him already

 
BeatDball 2014-09-30 21:02:23 

In reply to methodic Lmao!

 
Bain 2014-09-30 23:20:47 

Yup - Polly fling too.

 
BatQuake 2014-09-30 23:31:10 

In reply to SpudsMcKenzie

The HUGE question, and most interesting is:::: Will they report Murali in the IPL next year????

I now seeing dis. Wait nuh, Murali still playing cricket?

I don't pay attention to the IPL so I didn't realize his still playing in it.


Now that's gonna be real interesting if he's actually reported.

 
bravos 2014-10-01 00:37:51 

In reply to BatQuake

Stop irrigating Admin's rass.

 
bobby 2014-10-01 08:49:10 

In reply to Admin

Since the ICC allowed Muttiah Muralitharan to pelt, they opened the doors.
As far as I am concerned most, if not all of the bowlers in the world today are pelting the odd one.
Let them all pelt. The game is moving more and more towards baseball so what is wrong with one more innovation.

 
positiveg 2014-10-01 09:26:43 

In reply to bobby

The game is moving more and more towards baseball so what is wrong with one more innovation.


Simple, it's not baseball.
There are rules and those rules should be followed.
If the rules need changing and the changing of the rules will keep the sport as it should be then change them.
Don't change them for changing them sake.

 
positiveg 2014-10-01 09:26:43 

In reply to bobby

The game is moving more and more towards baseball so what is wrong with one more innovation.


Simple, it's not baseball.
There are rules and those rules should be followed.
If the rules need changing and the changing of the rules will keep the sport as it should be then change them.
Don't change them for changing them sake.

 
bobby 2014-10-01 12:45:22 

In reply to positiveg
It isn't baseball? Really? Have you seen the stance of many of the 'batters' as they are now called in T20 cricket?

 
Headley 2014-10-01 16:08:55 

In reply to buds

The ICC should never have bent the rule--Such hypocrisy to be calling the Pelters when you made it legal to cheat--This is such a case where the ICC got it wrong--No sweat just go back to no 15 degree, period!!


Yuh don't understand. A committee of three, Gavaskar, Holding and somebody else in the late nineties when the technology became commonplace and cheap looked at Muri's action and then they looked at others.

To their surprise almost every bowler was in breech of the zero straightening rule. If they had kept the zero straightening rule there would be no cricket. That was the start of the 10 degree, 7.5 and 5 degree rule.

The irony was that Muri looked bad but he measured clean, time and time again, in match and in testing conditions, while many others who looked good were in breech.

Testing conducted in the 1990s in England revealed that during a delivery virtually all bowlers flex and extend their arms naturally to some degree as it rotates around the shoulder. This testing revealed that the strict Laws of Cricket which banned any flexing of the arm were impossible to follow. At this time a set of tiered tolerance thresholds for the amount of allowable elbow extension, or straightening, were implemented: 10 degrees for fast bowlers, 7.5 degrees for medium pacers, and 5 degrees for spin bowlers. Enforcing these new measures proved problematic, as the laboratory based measurement systems used had a margin of error of at least 1 degree, and video based measurement systems were likely to have more, especially if inappropriately executed.[6]

A later study from 2000-2003 showed that bowling actions that looked normal to the naked eye in many of the world's elite fast bowlers had, on average, 9 degrees of elbow extension during the bowling action. Some recorded elbow extension measuring between 10-15 degrees, yet none of these bowlers had ever had a problem regarding the legality of their bowling action. This testing showed that a zero tolerance threshold, and the tiered thresholds implemented in the late 90's, had no or little scientific merit. The study, conducted by the Australian Institute of Sport Biomechanics department, lead by cricket biomechanist Dr. Marc Portus, involved taking three-dimensional video based biomechanical analyses during tour, test and one-day international matches in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. Results from this work indicated that video based measurement error in such a scenario, using best practice methodologies, was 3 degrees. This report was submitted to the ICC in 2003, which instigated the review of the illegal action definition and processes.[7]



The only thing we can safely agree on is that we are not competent to make bowling judgements with the naked eye.

 
CricSham 2014-10-01 18:41:22 

In reply to Headley
But when a bowler is going almost 3x the already controversial rule of 15 degrees (Ajmal was clocked at 43 degrees) the ICC must do something. There is no doubt that the relaxing of the rule, perhaps a realistic position, as well as the ICC's reluctance to call Muralitharan (he did pelt, you know, on his way to the world record)opened the door for bowlers worldwide to keep pushing the limit.
I was in Guyana this past summer and went to a few friendly games. I saw teenagers practically pelting mango, and no one made an attempt to correct them.

 
methodic 2014-10-01 20:00:48 

In reply to Headley

I think we need more studies from non cricket playing countries like Russia and China

 
jen 2014-10-01 20:41:22 

Them new guys on that ICC bowling action panel naw joke, some them old timers like Ian Chappell, nobody getting spared! Only a matter of time before Ojha is called next. Ashwin action is clean except when he tries to bowl like narine lol

 
eXodus 2014-10-02 10:47:29 

In reply to bobby

there was a indian spinner who had a funny action too...remember my dad talking about him

can't remember the name...i recall that lloyd them played against him?

jaip?

 
carl0002 2014-10-02 11:23:10 

I think they need to tidy the language around some of this stuff. I need a doc to tell me how do you straighten your elbow.

 
hubert 2014-10-02 12:16:02 

In reply to carl0002

lol lol lol

 
Runs 2014-10-02 18:30:20 

In reply to eXodus

Chandrasekhar?

 
Tagwa1 2014-10-02 18:40:56 

In reply to Emir


It just seems so many peeps here who should know better, cannot hide their glee, never mind the absence of Narine can harm WI cricket.


Very much like the glee some felt when Shilly was called.

Many who strongly support Narine now had no sympathy for Shilly or WI cricket then.

 
Tagwa1 2014-10-02 18:42:24 

In reply to eXodus

The great chandresekar

 
Arawak 2014-10-03 08:52:27 

In reply to Admin

They all pelt. Every single one. You pelt too. Some just pelt more than others.

 
methodic 2014-10-03 11:07:45 

In reply to Arawak

big grin

 
POINT 2014-10-03 11:30:44 

In reply to Tagwa1

Well said ; it reminds me about the saying :

" PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES , MUST

NEVER EVER THROW STONES "