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For several reasons that we all chose to ignore here in the West Indies:

The really interesting thing is that Narine has been around for over 4 years now. He has played on the international scene for many different teams. He has bowled his quicker delivery on many an occasion. Why call him now? Same for Ajmal.

I just hope there isn't a darker side to this tale.

In reply to dale_staple



You like to try to be a SPECIAL poster? Why not post this same crap on an already started thread? Yuh think any opinion yuh have is thread worthy?

In reply to dale_staple

THis is not the first time that Narine has been under scrutiny. He was called very early in his international career, and hadhis action rehabilitated in Australia. So this is merely a relapse. His action has always been suspect to me, as much as I admire him.

In reply to WestDem

Where was your umbrage when numerous Shillingford threads were sprouting up?


You want dis Narine developemtn to remain hush-hush or wha?

In reply to dale_staple

Don't worry with WestDem.

In reply to dale_staple

anybody from India, Australia and England get call

In reply to WestDem

Really surprised at your vitriol dude. It's not called for.

In reply to Cameron

Narine has neva been called internationally.

He was one of several bowlers whose actions were questioned during a CT20 tournament.

De TTCB sent himself and Cooper to Australia for testing where remedial action was recommended

In reply to dale_staple


India doing everything they can to ensure they win the next T20 and ODI workd cup. I notice 4 non-Indian spinners have been reported. They will soon start on the premier fast bowlers, Johnson, Steyn and others

"If you live in a glass house don't throw stones"


There are many here who reveled in Shillingford being called for his action. And the hypocrisy continues evil: . As for me I didn't like it for Shilly, now I don't like it for Narine. They are both West Indians. Anyway didn't the article say being reported in CLT20 has no impact on his participation in international cricket?

In reply to InHindsight

There is something sinister to these recent callings. Time reveals all things though.

Why the long wait , this should have been done long time a blind man can see that from far .

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In reply to dale_staple

I am of the belief that they really wanted to get Narine , Ajmal is merely collateral damage . This aint nothing new .

Find out which Team in International Cricket had the fastest Bowlers in the world; when the 1 Bouncer per over
was introduced i Cricket ????

You can also check which Team was the best in the World in all aspects of the game when England suddenly decided to ban all Overseas Players from playing in England ???
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In reply to POINT

Why de conspiracy theory?

Narine's action was deemed suspicious by WI umpires de first time he played in a regional tournament. That it took this long for another report to come in suggests that the assistance he received back then held him in good stead until now.

His action may have deteriorated to the point where it appears suspicious again especially with the pressures to perform and given dat his background is wind ball cricket in Trinindad where few if any actually bowl, it is not surprising if from time to time he slips back to dat mode.

My take is that everything started going downhill with the introduction the 15
degrees angle Rule . This in my opinion , has muddied the waters .

The real question is how & what does
One determine that bowlers are within the 15 degrees angle .There will always
be endless discussion regarding this Rule .

Women cannot be a little pregnant , they are either pregnant or
they are not pregnant . So it should be either bowlers actions are legal or they are illegal .

I am therefore for in favour of the elimination of the hocus pocus 15 degrees angle Rule . No doubt this rule was instituted to benefit some Players . However as I have stated it has only served to make some Players bowling action murkier .

[b]In reply to Points
I agree with you. When I watching cricket live once the elbow is bent it looks like pelting.

In reply to Maispwi Pleez cite instances where regional umpires were suspicious of SN's bowling actions.

If a bowler's arm is bent he is pelting. I don't give a rats ass about the 15 degrees angle rule.

In reply to POINT

I agree POINT. Remember the original position was exactly what you said...legal or not. But then when they did the testing on older persons presumed legal, they realised those guys would have failed the test. So to avoid the embarrassment they changed the standards and came up with this 15 degree test.

In reply to dale_staple

So in my opinion is that the ICC rescinds this 15 degree crap . However Idon't think that is going to happen .India ; Sri Lanka & Pakistan will get together and put pressure on the ICC not to rescind the 15 degrees rule .

It is time to alter quote from the Bible :

" LET ONLY THOSE WHOSE ACTION IS

STRAIGHT BE THE ONLY ONES

ALLOWED TO BOWL IN MATCHES ;

NO DISPENSATION ALLOWED " .

In reply to BeatDball

You sound like a newbie so ah will do dis for you just dis once.

In reply to Maispwi

Read today that they expressed concern about 9 players during that competition, seems like the TTCB were the only ones to take action and try to help both players.

Narine look fuh he trouble.
Yuh pelt, you should get banned.
He doh need to pelt at all, good enough stay within the limits and be successful but at times he goes beyond the limit.

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In reply to Maispwi Got it.

So replace the fifteen degree rule even though the data suggest all except Sars straighten??

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In reply to Trinidave

My belief is that a lot of political
games can be played with this 15 degrees angle .

In reply to POINT

We have a winner!

In reply to dale_staple

Yes, there is a darker side to this new regime.

I believe the Brits are the one who drove this,most likely a a backroom deal with the BCCI when the big 3 were talking earlier this year.

The Brits are obsessed with what they call the purity of the game and the elbow flex law- which they haven't been able to benefit from, has really hurt them.

I have said it many times, the English is the main threat to the future of cricket and left to their own devices, they will unwittingly kill the game.

In reply to Emir

To the contrary, I think the English are right to want to guard the purity of the game. I have hated to see how bowling actions have deteriorated over the recent years, and it was time that a brake be put on this decline. Not that it was perfect in the past. There have always been players with suspect actions. The difference today is that many international bowlers were being allowed to pelt without being questioned. So it was becoming the norm, not the exception. When you cannot be a successful off-spinner without pelting, then something had to be done. I am sorry that our own Shillingford and Narine are caught in the net. But all that means is that off-spinners have to work harder with flight and variety to get batsmen out with a straight arm. Swann did it successfully, so it can be done.

Now he is banned. Sigh. After years of bowling with the same action year in year out in the same IPL and CPL and T20I and so on and so forth he is now a pelter...interesting. That is all.

In reply to Cameron

Your are wrong and like most folks are naive about the politics of cricket which is driving this new regime.

This has absolutely nothing to do with bowling actions and everything to do with the British ideology of their so called "purity" which is a British disease

In case you were not aware of it, about 125 years ago, they fabricated similar movement to spite the USA and the end result was the death of cricket in the USA, which was America's past--time.

Baseball then took hold and the rest is history.

In reply to Cameron

Swan was a blatant pelter

In reply to Emir

I totally agree with your assessment ,regarding England , check whose Team had the fastest bowlers i the World , when it was decided to introduce the 1 Bouncer per Over rule ??

I have stated often in this Forum that the ban by England in the mid 1980's against ALL Overseas Players was aimed mainly at our Players .

The fact that other players were also banned was merely collateral damage .
The tactics employed by those who hold power in the ICC ; would have made Machiavellian blush .