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BREAKING BCCI: PAY US 42 MILLION WICB!

 
powen001 2014-10-31 11:57:15 

BCCI has demanded a payment of 42 Million dollars from the WICB .

DUE in 15 days!

WICB is already overdrawn for over 6 million dollars.


yall can have fun with that info...Commie??

 
Runs 2014-10-31 11:58:15 

In reply to powen001
Business is business justified cool

 
uton 2014-10-31 12:00:23 

In reply to powen001

Where is this info derived from ? Anyhow this will force the WICB to start running cricket like a business not the cake-shop shyte that they have now.

 
Cuter 2014-10-31 12:04:26 

In reply to powen001

will wicb pay up then sue the players for 42 Mil? smile

 
carl0002 2014-10-31 12:07:59 

In reply to Cuter

We just figured out why the WICB meeting with Bravo and the players lawyer this morning. The same coals BCCI raking the WICB over go ketch the players. lol lol lol

 
BeatDball 2014-10-31 12:10:00 

Wheh we gwine get that money from? WI are a poor N small place on d globe!!!

 
powen001 2014-10-31 12:11:17 

In reply to uton

Ooh..You will get the OFFICIAL information just now..hold tight.


Ralph busy...matter of fact..Both Ralphs busy..Thorne the players lawyer and Gonzalves ..God bless him for trying a ting...but BCCI aint playing.


can we spell...R E S T R U C T U R E or else??

later...I don't feel like smiling...not yet.

 
WI_cricfan 2014-10-31 12:12:27 

Should Caricom bail out WICB on dis one then Caricom should disband to WICB and tek it over, but oh ICC will not allow that right.

 
powen001 2014-10-31 12:13:07 

In reply to Cuter

hmm....I am laughing ..but I aint going to post the smiley Cuter.

The players covered...Commie will explain how it works you see...if he is in a calm and sober mood to address this dispassionately.

good luck with that.

 
powen001 2014-10-31 12:14:31 

In reply to WI_cricfan

you seeing the WEB...

good for you.

seriously tho..I gone..

as it comes I will share..but certainly by this afternoon the official statements should be made..

I posting this cause I know how the CABAL will seek to couch the language and cover tings.

all for now.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 12:18:22 

In reply to powen001

You happier than a pimp in a whorehouse.........whoopie........

 
Kurt 2014-10-31 12:26:31 

In reply to carl0002

The WICB might have a case for recovering the retainer payments from the players who refused to continue, but the players' liability would end there. You're confusing reality with wishful thinking.

 
WestDem 2014-10-31 12:26:34 

In reply to cherri



You happier than a pimp in a whorehouse


Yuh rass too bad!!! lol lol lol

 
hubert 2014-10-31 12:34:44 

In reply to cherri

I can always rely on you to reverse a bad day lol lol lol lol

 
WestDem 2014-10-31 12:41:54 

In reply to powen001



Why de 33% discount from de BCCI? lol lol

 
pelon 2014-10-31 12:47:36 

In reply to powen001

All part of the theater of power.

I hope this shakes the tree free of all the over-ripe mangoes.

Poween: Even if they sue for 1 million, the email below leaves much for lawyers to play with.

as seen on BCCI

Mr. Richie Richardson sent a mail to the BCCI stating the following:

Mr. Richie Richardson: 'Despite agreeing to play the 4th ODI in Dharamshala, regrettably, the current West Indies players have decided that they will not participate any further in this tour and wish to return home after this match. In light of this, I suggest that the entire squad travel to Delhi tomorrow and be booked into a hotel there, until international return flights have been booked. On behalf of the entire squad and WICB, I apologise for the inconvenience caused.'


Sanjay Patel: This makes it clear that all along, the WICB was withdrawing its team if a resolution was not reached in the issue with their players.
Hony. Secretary
BCCI

 
matchstick 2014-10-31 12:47:46 

In reply to powen001

lol... BCCI declined to play and charging WICB for it? These injuns smoking some strong hashish like... lol lol

 
carl0002 2014-10-31 12:50:10 

In reply to matchstick
Not only that BCCI told the players tht they free to strike cuz they IPL contract safe.

lol lol lol

 
matchstick 2014-10-31 12:58:38 

In reply to carl0002




yeeep!

 
carl0002 2014-10-31 13:08:00 

In reply to matchstick

I said at the beginning that if BCCI took the unusual method of suing WICB , then I would have 2 lawsuits in my back pocket. One for the players naming BCCI party to that and another against the BCCI sueing them for interference resulting in the players withdrawing their services and the damages would include all revenues from the all series that BCCI cancelled since. Not that u go win but you want to create a little noise. lol lol

Essentially BCCI culled the series by guaranteeing players IPL contracts, refusing a replacement team, then immediately contracting Sri Lanka to tour even before the furor of the WI series cooled down.

 
Norm 2014-10-31 13:15:36 

That amount will be negotiated down to about 5 to 10 million, after which payments through reciprocal tours would be agreed to, after a few months.

There is nothing at present to indicate, however, that the problem (WICB plantation mentality) would not resurface yet again.

 
imusic 2014-10-31 14:22:09 

Any settlement will include the removal of Cameron

Watch de proceedings

 
Disciple 2014-10-31 14:30:16 

Breaking: TT Ministry of Sport offers to pay US$42M for WICB.

Conditions:
Quota of minimum 5 TT players in all WI teams
All TT players are returned to the Red Steel T20 Franchise
Bravo & Ramdin get 5 yrs job security as captains of ODI and test team
Bassrath becomes WICB president for life

 
positiveg 2014-10-31 14:32:26 

In reply to imusic

Murihead should follow him to plus Hinds.
Bravo being a player will most likely get stripped of captaincy.

 
navindesigns 2014-10-31 14:33:37 

lets start the collection
ill set up a website
how much you think we can get in the next 15 days?

 
Chrissy 2014-10-31 14:39:27 

In reply to Disciple

ROFL

 
powen001 2014-10-31 14:41:28 

In reply to cherri

not at all Cherri.

As some posters are saying.

something MUST come from this...

and even simply removing Cameron and Wavell and Bravo wont solve it..

I find it funny that BCCI reportedly said no to a replacement team too...and now suing for 42 Million.

Something must drop out from this commess.

 
powen001 2014-10-31 14:44:22 

In reply to pelon

Thanks Pelon...

cool heads must prevail but I am in full support of the removal of Cameron.

I am of the opinion that had he met with the players ahead of this tour as they had requested...then we would be discussing rankings and performance of players and who should be going to SA...

this must happen..then hopefully real mangoes get knocked out the tree and little collateral damage..well..no more collateral damage ensues.

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2014-10-31 14:48:42 

In reply to powen001

Ralphs busy



Tell him to make haste!!! smile

 
imusic 2014-10-31 14:48:57 

In reply to navindesigns

lets start the collection
ill set up a website
how much you think we can get in the next 15 days?

Do a pay per click to shivisgreat.com with all proceeds going towards paying the US$42M

Then again....allyuh might end up owing people money if allyuh do dat cool

 
navindesigns 2014-10-31 14:53:48 

In reply to imusic

im serious man
we can make a difference
WICB needs us more than ever

 
POINT 2014-10-31 14:55:58 

In reply to powen001

Well if this is true the feces have really hit the fan , and fluttering downwards .
Perhaps the people in the WICB will now understand that the business of Cricket
is very serious .

that being the case , Incompetence ; Ineptness ; Arrogance ; lack of good governance ; Animosity ;etc must be stamped out .

I must say however that it was & is crass
stupidity that :

THE ICC ALLOWED THE WICB

TO BE A ROGUE CRICKET BOARD FOR DECADES .

WHILE STATING THAT IT CANNOT INTERVENE .

I sincerely hope that the ICC has now realized that it is bad business to have
Rogue Cricket Boards as members .

 
POINT 2014-10-31 15:06:17 

In reply to Norm

Your term Plantation Mentality , is very appropriate . I came to that conclusion years ago . It seems to me that they inherited this asinine thinking from the WICBC which was run mainly by " white " folks .

What WE current have in the WICB are MIMIC

MEN WHO ARE ENDOWED WITH PLANTATION

MENTALITIES .

 
VIX 2014-10-31 15:12:41 

cameron adn the boys could open a jerk stall in front of Hyatt to raise some funds

 
powen001 2014-10-31 15:18:29 

In reply to POINT

hmm..Rogue Cricket Board?

apart from the many things they have done incorrectly in these parts..to players to sponsors and even each other I was under the impression that they did really good performances at the masters table?

too bad they didn't get the memo that the BCCI now running things. confused

 
Commie 2014-10-31 15:20:28 

In reply to Disciple

The last time TTCB had issues Jack Warner paid the bills. Yes...Jack.

This whole atm thing doesnt work as well as people think when someone always intercepting the withdrawals.

 
Walco 2014-10-31 15:21:48 

In reply to carl0002

I said at the beginning that if BCCI took the unusual method of suing WICB , then I would have 2 lawsuits in my back pocket. One for the players naming BCCI party to that and another against the BCCI sueing them for interference resulting in the players withdrawing their services and the damages would include all revenues from the all series that BCCI cancelled since. Not that u go win but you want to create a little noise. lol lol

Essentially BCCI culled the series by guaranteeing players IPL contracts, refusing a replacement team, then immediately contracting Sri Lanka to tour even before the furor of the WI series cooled down.


The BCCI/IPL did nothing wrong by informing the WI players that their IPL contracts would not be affected if they withdrew from that series. If the BCCI had gone along with the WICB's efforts to strong-arm the players by threatening to terminate (or terminating their IPL contracts) that would have been improper interference and likely illegal.

 
powen001 2014-10-31 15:26:12 

In reply to Walco

plus the obvious impact upon the hype that surrounds the WI players every single year.

Dollars, Rupees..it all converts to R O I

 
POINT 2014-10-31 15:27:02 

In reply to powen001

I will never ever be in favour of calling for Cameron's scalp alone . Cameron has less power than the Presidents of the Regional Boards who SELECTED HIM to be the President of the WICB .

That being the case , calling for only Cameron's scalp is not only very misguided ,
but also counterproductive . My take is that Cameron was acting on behalf of the orders
of his BOSSES .

 
Kurt 2014-10-31 15:31:22 

In reply to carl0002

Get over the IPL thing dude. The IPL is in no way related to the aborted tour. There is no reason to assume the players' action would affect their IPL status anymore than it woukd affect their Big Bash or CPL status. If the WICB want to punish their own players, they should withold the NOCs and not rely on the BCCI to do their dirty work for them.

Gleaning the BCCI press releases and other media reports from India strongly suggest that the BCCI feel let down by Cameeon and the WICB for refusing to even talk with the players over their legitimate grievances. The BCCI are not pissed off with the players, they're pissed off with Cameron and his cronies . In that light, their response in entirely logical: call off their agreements with the WICB (bilateral tours) and let the players go about their (other) business.

 
Kurt 2014-10-31 15:31:23 

In reply to carl0002

Get over the IPL thing dude. The IPL is in no way related to the aborted tour. There is no reason to assume the players' action would affect their IPL status anymore than it woukd affect their Big Bash or CPL status. If the WICB want to punish their own players, they should withold the NOCs and not rely on the BCCI to do their dirty work for them.

Gleaning the BCCI press releases and other media reports from India strongly suggest that the BCCI feel let down by Cameeon and the WICB for refusing to even talk with the players over their legitimate grievances. The BCCI are not pissed off with the players, they're pissed off with Cameron and his cronies . In that light, their response in entirely logical: call off their agreements with the WICB (bilateral tours) and let the players go about their (other) business.

 
Walco 2014-10-31 15:31:46 

In reply to imusic

Any settlement will include the removal of Cameron

Watch de proceedings



It's not just Cameron that needs to go. Muirhead and Pybus need to go as well. Remember, this whole thing started when Pybus kept pushing the PCL at a time when the WICB had no money to fund it, and he convinced Cameron, Muirhead and Hinds that the money to pay for the PCL should be taken from the international players.They were warned by someone no longer with the WICB that such a move would cause major problems, but those warnings were ignored. Serious misjudgment by the entire senior leadership of the WICB.

 
eXodus 2014-10-31 15:33:36 

In reply to Kurt

that IPL thing was one of the reasons why they were allowed to strike in the first place.

If their IPL contracts were in jeopardy, they wouldn't have gone this route.

What I find strange is that the BCCI refused a replacement team, and are now suing for money.

Unless..there's more to this....

 
powen001 2014-10-31 15:38:43 

In reply to POINT

Yes ..I agree that Cameron wasn't acting alone...but he is in position...that is the process.

2: Several other reports are speaking to Mr Cameron being less than accommodating in his "style and approach".

That stuff while tho not breaking any rules does speak to a certain ROGUE mentality as CEO.

Whos wagging whom comes to mind...and in this case the tail may escape because a HEAD must roll.

 
JOJO 2014-10-31 15:40:11 

In reply to Kurt

This isnt just about having respectable people in positions. Its a crisis in negotiation, communication and institutional structure


As I suggested on another thread--you are a shortsighted dumbass.

You really think BCCI is acting based on principle or in the best interest of Windies cricket? You really think this is about Cameron?

Whatever Cameron's issues are (and there are many)---You really think that the BCCI should be able to force out a legitimately elected leader of a regional body?

 
Commie 2014-10-31 15:42:25 

In reply to JOJO

Well..tribalism induces blindness smile

When the US does the same kind of thing in politics they call it imperialism.

 
carl0002 2014-10-31 15:47:08 

In reply to Walco

he BCCI/IPL did nothing wrong by informing the WI players that their IPL contracts would not be affected if they withdrew from that series.


I beg to differ here. BCCI suing the WICB for cancelling the series. During the process BCCI confirmed for the WI players, who they were talking to for days, that if you refuse to play the rest of the series it has no effect on any existing contracts with the IPL. The players then decide to go on strike and you are saying that has no bearing on the decision to strike? Why did the players even ask the question.

Now I am not saying that the BCCI/IPL needed to strong arm the players, their response should have been. No comment. We are not commenting one way or the other. Simple.

If BCCI could not see the harm that guaranteeing IPL contracts was going to do to the series that they now suing for, well I don't know what to say. And you guys on here harping about conflict of interest.

 
POINT 2014-10-31 15:47:14 

In reply to powen001

Powen you are missing the essential point ;

Most of the Players on the team that went to India, are household names to Indian Cricket
Fans , so that naturally guarantees fans
coming through the Turnstiles .

So agreeing to have a replacement Team was not going to induce people to go to see the matches . Then there is the matter of the
competitiveness of the replacement Team .

I would readily agree that the BCCI was also seeking to protect those who play in the IPL

 
JOJO 2014-10-31 15:48:55 

In reply to Commie

Well..tribalism induces blindness


That goes beyond tribalism...it is crass stupidity.

Man salivating at the prospect of WICB (the regional board) being taken to the cleaners by an external body that has shown on numerous occasions, that the only thing it cares about is the welfare of the citizens of India.

At the end of day, Cameron will return to his life and his business....the same way Hilaire did, Hunte did, Ken Gordon, Skerritt---and the list goes on. All these people had a successful life before WICB and after.

Except for the six or seven with IPL contracts, the only ones who will suffer now and for decades to come are the dozens...who never went to university....and used cricket as the only means to stay out of trouble or to make a decent living.

 
WestDem 2014-10-31 15:52:19 

In reply to eXodus



What I find strange is that the BCCI refused a replacement team, and are now suing for money.

Unless..there's more to this....


If you follow the BCCI timeline you would see that they met with the WICB before the tour started...Here is my take...

1: WICB know that there was a potential fuh a work stoppage once the players see the MOU and Tour Contracts.

2: They decide to pick the team to go to India and also pick a replacement team just incase of the anticipated work stoppage.

3: De WI A that went to Sri Lanka was not really "A" players but mostly current International Players. See where I going?

4: Cameron decide to meet with the BCCI in Dubai advising on the potential problem and tell dem he have a replacement team on standby just in case.

5: BCCI tell him to fack off, solve you internal issue and guarantee the completion of the tour with your TOP team...We cannot give our sponsors diluted crap fuh de big money they are paying...

6: Promised to let them know one way or the other by Oct 15th...he did not and during this time he refused to meet with the players in India...

7: Mavell as de head of the WIPA, rather than representing the players concerns started a war of words with Bravo that were made public by both immature big men!

8: Cameron did not get back to the BCCI as promised and only remember that he owe them the confirmation after they contacted him. BCCI pocket deep and seh dis is the utmost disrespect any Biatch can have fuh their pimp.

9: We are now at a stage where there should be serious damage control and all we are getting is who should get de blame!

 
Commie 2014-10-31 15:52:45 

In reply to JOJO

Maybe its because they really do not understand what is at stake.

 
powen001 2014-10-31 15:53:17 

In reply to POINT

Most of the Players on the team that went to India, are household names to Indian Cricket
Fans , so that naturally guarantees fans
coming through the Turnstiles .


I didn't miss this point..I said as much...R O I earlier.

JOJO has a point about BCCI seeking the head of Cameron being distasteful but surely...this would be called Immoral suasion cool

PLUS..

MONEY TALKS!!

 
POINT 2014-10-31 15:55:51 

In reply to JOJO

On the other hand the WICB only purpose is
to be in the governance of Cricket in the Region Forever ; WITHOUT ever changing its current Structure .

I cite this i reagrd to your comment about the BCCI . In essence :

" POT CANNOT CALL THE KETTLE BLACK "

 
powen001 2014-10-31 16:03:06 

In reply to POINT

understood...

I agree that toothless power seems to be the only ethos of the WICB..unless its attempting to unfair the players prior to the advent of WIPA>


BCCI...has clout...let them swing...every dog has his day...and that's as close to the line as I will place my toes with these metaphors big grin

 
Walco 2014-10-31 16:13:32 

In reply to carl0002

I beg to differ here. BCCI suing the WICB for cancelling the series. During the process BCCI confirmed for the WI players, who they were talking to for days, that if you refuse to play the rest of the series it has no effect on any existing contracts with the IPL. The players then decide to go on strike and you are saying that has no bearing on the decision to strike? Why did the players even ask the question.


Of course, the BCCI's response to the players affected their decision to strike. My understanding is that the players inquired about their IPL contracts after published reports suggested that they would lose those contracts if the went on strike. But my point is that the IPL contracts of the WI players should never have been an issue in the first place because they were unrelated to the dispute at hand.

Now I am not saying that the BCCI/IPL needed to strong arm the players, their response should have been. No comment. We are not commenting one way or the other. Simple.


My opinion is that the BCCI was free to respond by saying either "no comment" or "striking will have no impact on your IPL contracts." Neither response would expose the BCCI to legal liability. On the other hand, there would have been lots of legal exposure if the BCCI agreed in concert with the WICB to cancel the players' IPL contracts.

I do not agree with the players' decision to pull out of the tour, but I also do not believe that the BCCI and WICB should have resorted to illegal measures to stop them from pulling out. Not suggesting that this is your position though.

 
eXodus 2014-10-31 16:27:19 

In reply to WestDem

we all know that Wavell and Cameron fcuked up royally. there is no arguing that.

My gripe with the players is that ...this is west indies cricket. Now while the onus is primarily on the WICB since they manage west indies cricket, the players are the brand ambassadors. If your brand ambassadors abandon your own product, then what good is your product?

My rass is sitting at home....waiting to see two test matches that are not happening.

That not gonna happen any time soon.

What I'm also concerned with, is that no one has lost their job over this....this is a fuckup of epic proportions, yet everyone who was involved is carrying along merrily.

 
WestDem 2014-10-31 16:30:50 

In reply to eXodus



My rass is sitting at home....waiting to see two test matches that are not happening.


Watch Pak/OZ, Bang/Zim.... lol lol

If your brand ambassadors abandon your own product, then what good is your product?


Disrespecting yuh brand ambassadors are sometime worse than cutting their pay....De WICB totally facking look fuh what is happening!

 
nick2020 2014-10-31 16:31:56 

In reply to navindesigns

Needs us more than ever?

The difference between giving money to the WICB and flushing it down the toilet?

I can get a plunger.

 
eXodus 2014-10-31 16:38:36 

In reply to WestDem

yuh rass...mi nuh paki/oz or mi nuh bang/zim

mi west indian...rass better mi turn guyanese and done...or embrace my canadian identity and go play elite division cricket lol

 
WestDem 2014-10-31 16:44:06 

In reply to eXodus

lol lol lol

I am a West Indian too...but I love cricket....screw them till this is over!

 
eXodus 2014-10-31 16:55:05 

In reply to WestDem

me too...but i like west indian cricket a lot more lol

 
cherri 2014-10-31 17:02:39 

In reply to Walco



They were warned by someone no longer with the WICB that such a move would cause major problems, but those warnings were ignored......

Granny used to say....hard ears yuh wont hear...own way yuh gine feel.........the BCCI inflicting a parents correction pon the WICB, the BCCI telling them, we does bail out yuh skunt all the time and this is what you doing, yuh playing powful foolish, show me who gine bail yuh out now.......the WICB and its leadership at this juncture is a sorry set of fellas who believe that they can do as the like, but someone should remind them that yes, you could do as you like, but not as long as you like, you think if they were answerable to a higher authority this shit could happen....no way, because when the players told WIPA they were willing to give up something but they needed a raise on the flat salary, they would have had to discuss it further before Wavell and Jamaica Dave pulled they foolish move aided and abeted by the master puppeteer, the Indians fucking dem wid some lil soft dicks and causing bare pain........

 
Logic 2014-10-31 17:05:03 

Didn't get chance to read all the posts here. Just looked at the first few. Saw a lot of talk about wicb restructuring. If this ends up in a lawsuit it will be too late for restructuring...of wicb. Time to declare bankruptcy, wind up the BVI company and start all over again! In fact that is probably the only way any restructuring going to take place.

 
hubert 2014-10-31 17:08:09 

In reply to cherri


Carry on Cherri smile master puppeteer ,who dat ?
WI need to suspended for at least two years..but I don't think BCVCI/India gonna play
that Hard Ball

big grin
In the meantime, those at the trough and the cabal should start passing the plate .
Not a dime from me...I live in the USA lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
Commie 2014-10-31 17:08:32 

In reply to cherri

Someone elsewhere pointed out something pretty straightforward.

The WICb executives never have an issue before and after the WICB getting work. Gordon, Rousseau, Dehring, Hilaire, Muirhead, Hunte et al.

In all of this engineered crisis, I am yet to understand the benefit to the players.

Ok...so you say its not about the money, its about respect and the principle.

Well, in the end, its money that is getting lost in the standoff. The WICB now can turnaround and say, blame who you like but we now cannot pay x amount of retainers and we cant support the pro league.

Who gains in this ?

Common sense aint common.

 
Walco 2014-10-31 17:35:09 

In reply to cherri

lol lol lol lol lol lol

The WICB picked the wrong horse, the one with a lighter hue, and the horse they picked turned out to be a stubborn, power-hungry and incompetent mule. It will be a while before our cricket recovers from his kick.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 17:43:03 

In reply to Commie

But the sense was never common yuh know, why you think so many people challenged..........the WICB was warned that this pro league will be stressful, they were warned to tip-toe around the idea, cause in as much as people will agree to it, they were not keen on helping to fund it, the only corner to peep in was where the players were, if the WICB knew they could not fund it, they should not have started something they could not go through with at this time, they went to their favourite watering hole and the people at the well did not turn them down, just like they went to the well with the CPL..........but the mistake they made was trying to hoodwink the players.......you realize that from day one the Indian man was behaving like a two-mout Bajan, everytime he communicated with the WICB, he went back to the players......you realize that when the WICB dispatched the first e-mail the day before the first ODI and said that they feel it may be better to call of the game and the tour that the man went to the players and convinced them to play, the players knew every move the WICB was making, by the time the fourth ODI came around the players had had their fill of the WICB nastiness.........so now the BCCI like a boa squeezing the life out of the fools, so them gine turn pon the players and blame them now for being in a position whey they cayn even scratch they pooch......

 
cherri 2014-10-31 17:45:50 

In reply to Walco

them funeral, sometime it is good to take some advice, we were going along alright for years without a pro league, what was waiting another year or so, sort out things, go to the well as often as they can and them make a move......goats, now they out in the cold and bleeting like they got laryngitis cause the Indians cayn hear a thing they saying.........

 
camos 2014-10-31 17:46:30 

In reply to cherri
girl! lol

 
cherri 2014-10-31 17:47:32 

In reply to hubert

The WICB was sitting pretty in their union with India, an a few greedy, power hungry people from Johnson island just spoil a good thing...........

 
Walco 2014-10-31 17:54:48 

In reply to cherri

Nuff people reading dem posts trying to figure out what you are saying. Where is your translator? Weh Humble deh? smile

 
cherri 2014-10-31 17:56:40 

In reply to Walco

Well, who understand, understand, if you don't, you know what to do............

 
Commie 2014-10-31 18:00:16 

In reply to cherri

In the end it comes down to a personality contest.

Like everything in this region.

 
Walco 2014-10-31 18:01:06 

In reply to cherri

There's only one thing I didn't quite get

they cayn even scratch they pooch......


Wuh dah mean? big grin big grin They can't scratch their dogs?

 
Kurt 2014-10-31 18:04:04 

In reply to JOJO

You flailing wildly like a woman in a maid fight, while de men laffin at yuh panty showing.

Of course the BCCI are fighting to preserve their own self-interests. However, they've just witnessed an unbelievable level of apathy displayed by Cameron & the WICB as they reneged on their contractual obligations to conduct the tour of India, thereby flushing $65M of BCCI money down the drain. In response, the BCCI made the undestandable decision that this is a man with whom in the future they cannot deal.

The BCCI have no authority to force Cameron out. However, the WICB's failure to satisfy their contractual obligations have given the BCCI every right to refuse to engage in any future bilateral agreements until such time as the WICB are represented by someone they can trust. West Indies cricket must now decide whether they wish to re-engage with the BCCI. However, for them to do so, they will have to replace Cameron. Their choice, no reverse colonialism or any other nonsense, just business decisions.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 18:09:54 

In reply to Walco

They in so small and tight a space they cayn even move they hand to scratch they bottom(pooch).....the Indians got them in a straight jacket.........

 
Walco 2014-10-31 18:11:55 

In reply to cherri

Tenks smile

 
hubert 2014-10-31 18:15:43 

In reply to cherri



Especially when they in sackcloth and ashes lol lol

 
Kurt 2014-10-31 18:20:16 

In reply to eXodus

What I find strange is that the BCCI refused a replacement team, and are now suing for money.


I believe it is standard in these agreements for the touring team to undertake to make evwry effort to send their strongest team. By not even meeting with the team Cameron made a mockery of this undertaking and exposed the WICB to contractual liabilities.

 
Walco 2014-10-31 18:21:03 

In reply to cherri

you realize that from day one the Indian man was behaving like a two-mout Bajan, everytime he communicated with the WICB, he went back to the players......


That's the part that has me puzzled. Why would the BCCI do that? Why would they (apparently) side with the players instead the WICB?

 
positiveg 2014-10-31 18:22:56 

In reply to eXodus

My rass is sitting at home....waiting to see two test matches that are not happening.

That not gonna happen any time soon.

What I'm also concerned with, is that no one has lost their job over this....this is a fuckup of epic proportions, yet everyone who was involved is carrying along merrily.


Bro I feel you. I going through pretty much the same thing.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 18:45:57 

In reply to Walco

From early in the piece the BCCI knew what was going on.....you have to remember that Bravo and Smith are team mates with Dhoni and a few of the indian players at Chennai and friends does discuss things, Dhoni could pull rope not string, and from day one them fellas knew how the players were feeling, so when the e-mail came, (even with that the WICB was late) so the people at the BCCI went to the assistace of the players to try and mediate, but Jamaica Dave think he did a maguffy, and started to ask the BCCI to tek way IPL contracts and ting, and the man do a Bajan pon the WICB....anyhow I done wid you and this talk...........

 
eXodus 2014-10-31 18:47:09 

As a west Indian cricket fan I want to see cricket..... The wicb and wipa and players supposed to help me in doing this... Yet I see a frigging industrial relations clinic
.... I want to see cricket and the whole a dem rass preventing me from doin exactly dat

Something' gotta give somewhere.

We Have the wicb hiding behind due procesz

We have the wipa being skunts

The players sayin they not playing and I stuck here not seeing cricket

What If I had taken vacation to see West I dies in India?

 
Star 2014-10-31 18:53:05 

In reply to powen001

can we spell...R E S T R U C T U R E or else??

Here is what the Hon Prime Minister said.

"This matter cannot be solved by the WIPA or the WICB or the players. Governments must be involved, as well as the private sector".

That spells ...RESTRUCTURE to me but then again, you are dealing with educated fools (the WICB). These are people without any shame.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 18:54:10 

In reply to eXodus

If you yuh did gone tuh India and things did not work out how you want.......yuh would do like the Israelites when they departed Egypt....mek an Exodus.........btw....some good cricket playing, the Pakistanis doing Australia............

 
eXodus 2014-10-31 18:56:27 

In reply to cherri

I know bout the pak/oz and I am enjoying it... However I'd have loved to have the option of watching windies cricket

 
cherri 2014-10-31 19:04:55 

In reply to eXodus

In life you doan always get everything yuh want........

 
uton 2014-10-31 20:02:29 

In reply to JOJO


Man salivating at the prospect of WICB (the regional board) being taken to the cleaners by an external body that has shown on numerous occasions, that the only thing it cares about is the welfare of the citizens of India.


Are you serious ? The BCCI makes more money off the backs of the citizens of India than any other avenue. The BCCI may be upset because the WICB could not produce a product that would enable major interest in the lucrative Indian market.
The people want to see Dwayne Bravo, Gayle, Pollard, Sammy and Dwayne Smith. There is no interest in a scab team with people such Braffit, that is the reason that the BCCI told the WICB to eff off with their scab team bullcrap.

The WICB need to realize that cricket is a business not a sport.

 
uton 2014-10-31 20:04:57 

In reply to nick2020

Needs us more than ever?

The difference between giving money to the WICB and flushing it down the toilet?

I can get a plunger


smile smile smile

 
nick2020 2014-10-31 20:08:45 

In reply to cherri

Cherri I have to ask you:

What was the WICB supposed to do with regards to the pro league.

In business if you had a manufacturing plant (regional cricket) that produced several items (west indies cricketers) but only a few of these items really made money (international players) how would you approach the necessary restructuring needed to make that plant profitable?

This is the problem. The regional competition is not good or profitable and needs to be restructured to make it work. The Pro League is the answer but funding is the problem.

I would like to know what they were supposed to do? Waiting would not put them in any better of a financial position to get the league done. WIPA needed to do a better job helping the players understand this to avoid this backlash. This oversight may of killed the whole initiative.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 20:43:24 

In reply to nick2020

The could have waited until they were in a better financial standing, they could have waited, Lord knows they waited years before what was a year or two more......and had they waited they would have been helped in setting it up properly and they would also have been funded, but they wanted to prove that they could pull it off, and the people who told them to wait, skinning dey teets at the goats all now, needless to say they cayn go to them people now..........there was nothing wrong with waiting.............in their quest to start before they were ready, the tief the players money from them, and then tried to get an external entity to also tek way what they were making with that entity as well, but when yuh hungry and licorish wid it, this is what does happen......if greedy wait, hot will cool.......I will say it again, they could have waited.........you gine see it differently, but what else is new.........

 
Commie 2014-10-31 20:45:35 

In reply to cherri

You notice pybus silent.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 21:17:25 

In reply to Commie

as a church rat.........

 
powen001 2014-10-31 21:26:34 

In reply to cherri

you bang on girl...

What are your thoughts on the temporary win for India by offering solace and dollars galore to those players who already rely on them for big bucks...outside the aegis of the WICB.

If india can get the cream of the WI players to come and participate then India wins...and players now threatened with victimization and non selection will still make a living outside of the pressures of the WICB and this commess.


It is messy and this Chess Game getting pretty ignorant girl...

* was told some footage was sent me..Will go look for it and let yuh know.

 
cherri 2014-10-31 21:36:34 

In reply to powen001

footage from where...... if you mean the meeting in Trinidad.......I covered, you should know my good buddy is Ralph Legal Clerk...........

India will win big over the WICB for the simple fact that when the WICB in a bind, they does go to the well (India) and they would bail them out, so for the WICB to behave this way the BCCI gine only see one thing, the WICB as being ungrateful and they will wring them out to dry, the players will always get the sympathy card even if the IPL did not exist.....yuh doan bite the hand that would feed yuh...........

 
hotarobin 2014-10-31 22:05:59 

this will end when WICB and CPL are completely dissolved bankrupt and in total tatters....WIPA is mostly irrelevant...

at that point BCCI would have achieved their objective of dismantling West indies cricket and any "pro league" to ensure that it cannot detract from IPL.

West Indies Cricket will not die but will be set back significantly and BCCI will now have even more power over the Windies players whose calypso style of cricket is a necessary attraction to the IPL...

it is unfortunate that the players, union and management were too caught up with their own agendas to see the opportunity they presented BCCI with...

 
powen001 2014-10-31 22:10:43 

In reply to hotarobin

ping ping ping!!

winner

 
powen001 2014-10-31 22:11:05 

In reply to cherri

safe smile

 
nick2020 2014-10-31 22:12:27 

In reply to cherri

The financials do not support the case for waiting to have money.

Here is what I am trying to figure out:

Why does India find no fault whatsoever with the players?

Could this have anything to do with the CPL?

 
nick2020 2014-10-31 22:13:14 

In reply to hotarobin

You beat me to it. I was eating and typing. I am thinking the same thing.

 
JOJO 2014-10-31 22:19:12 

In reply to hotarobin

Thank you. This thing should be so obvious to any West Indian that I didn't even think it would have been necessary to spell it out.

As I said earlier, BCCI cares about India and Indian cricket. They found an opening to squeeze West Indies and are simply taking full advantage of it.

 
powen001 2014-10-31 22:19:41 

In reply to nick2020

its almost like...

Those who have feared us for eons who wanted to control us...have ceded that power to some so called upstarts...who are actually better positioned to finish us off...

This is SAD...but the truth is..something good MUST come from this...if this is what it takes...

Its how we rebuild, recover and replace that will matter most...Who will be entrusted to see this through....thats the Rub...

Caricom?.. ICC stick up butt bout that...

a committee made up of Governments, Sponsors,players past and present, Legal team...surely...lets tear it down and remove the cancerous bits...( i smile) cause the cancerous bits are some of the very people we been trusting to do the right thing all these years..

Who will stand for us? smile

 
spider 2014-10-31 22:28:23 

Haven't seen so much nonsense in a while.

 
Pacy 2014-10-31 23:31:06 

In reply to JOJO


As I said earlier, BCCI cares about India and Indian cricket. They found an opening to squeeze West Indies and are simply taking full advantage of it.


100% right and that is their responsibility which they are performing right. ACB and ECB will do the same too.

The same is expected out of WICB with regard to the WI Cricket and West Indians. But they never care and that is the major concern. All these issues happening now are side acts but that is the basic problem.

 
spider 2014-10-31 23:33:47 

In reply to Pacy

You mean they want to mash up every other cricket board and play by themselves?

 
Pacy 2014-11-01 01:28:19 

In reply to spider

Not really. They want to ensure that they are taken care of first. Messing up with other boards is next item in agenda.

First WICB has to take care of their business seriously. When was the last time the FC or regional cricket had sponsors? and WICB has a marketing and sales wing on payroll.

 
mikesiva 2014-11-01 04:17:29 

In reply to Commie

"The WICb executives never have an issue before and after the WICB getting work. Gordon, Rousseau, Dehring, Hilaire, Muirhead, Hunte et al."

Not only that...these same individuals also appear to be quite successful at other business ventures and professional pursuits, before and after the WICB. Gordon runs a successful media operation in Trinidad, Rousseau is a pretty good lawyer, Dehring continues to do well in his business operations. The problem seems to be with the WICB itself...is it a poisoned chalice?

 
mikesiva 2014-11-01 04:25:52 

In reply to hotarobin

this will end when WICB and CPL are completely dissolved bankrupted and in total tatters....WIPA is mostly irrelevant...

at that point BCCI would have achieved their objective of dismantling West indies cricket and any "pro league" to ensure that it cannot detract from IPL.

West Indies Cricket will not die but will be set back significantly and BCCI will now have even more power over the Windies players whose calypso style of cricket is a necessary attraction to the IPL...

--------------------------------------------------------

If your worst-case scenario comes into being, then this might be a blessing in disguise.

The bankruptcy of the WICB doesn't necessarily mean the end of cricket in the Caribbean. The CPL can still go on...more fans turn out to see their countries play each other, and the country associations can get support from their governments, free from incompetent WICB overlordship.

It's already working for Jamaica in athletics and netball....

Individual countries can just follow the path of Afghanistan. The Afghans entered the WCL at the Division Five level in 2008, and by 2009 they were already in Division One. From there, it's just a matter of gaining Test status...Ireland are also in Division One, and given that both Jamaica and Guyana beat them when they were in the Caribbean earlier this year, it would be easy for individual Caribbean countries to persuade the ICC to give them Test status at that stage.

 
nick2020 2014-11-01 06:27:08 

In reply to mikesiva

Mike,

What are your thoughts on CARICOM?
Treaty of Chaguaramus?
The countless inter-island initiatives?

 
Verstehen 2014-11-01 15:28:30 

It's ok fellas, money's not a problem, maybe WICB can sell a Windian nation to make up the difference...say Guyana. lol lol lol

 
cricketmad 2014-11-01 15:53:36 

In reply to Verstehen



Maybe WICB can sell a Windian nation to make up the difference...say Guyana.



Do you really think they would get enough ?

 
Verstehen 2014-11-01 16:01:13 

In reply to cricketmad

Depends on whether WestDem has spare change to cover the rest....

 
shivnotout 2014-11-01 17:16:18 

In reply to powen001

BCCI has demanded a payment of 42 Million dollars from the WICB .

DUE in 15 days!


or bcci gonna buy over west indies for 8 million

 
powen001 2014-11-01 22:06:52 

In reply to shivnotout

With Gene and Dinah playing in the background? big grin