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Ridley Jacobs to answer to LICA Board... Today!
voiceofreason
2015-03-28 21:46:15
... For his failure to carry out specific instructions in the PCL Draft... Aha!
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According to Nicholas, both the coach (Ridley Jacobs) and chief selector (Lawrence Carty) failed to carry out specific instructions on which players they should have selected in the draft.
“A player (Ramnaresh Sarwan) was even mentioned by name that we would have liked to acquire his services and we had from opening batsman, top order coming all the way down to bowling in terms of spin bowler, left-arm seamer. We even went as far as saying options one two and three in the event that when your time comes and option one was no longer available …” he said.
Is about time! I guess if we did not have such a dismal season, nothing would be done.
voiceofreason
2015-03-28 21:49:41
Ridley say is lie him a tell but Ridley was the one who said publicly that the Leewards did not need outside help.
“Derrick must understand that he must speak the truth because there was no information given to us and when we got to Barbados was when we started seeking information and started asking questions so I don’t know what Derrick is talking about,” he said.
voiceofreason
2015-03-28 21:50:27
Jakes:
“I think that we have enough quality players in the Leewards. I think we just need to work with these guys and give them an opportunity to really perform to their best,” he told the Antigua Observer.
I liked Jakes as a Cricketer but he has failed as a coach.
Larr Pullo
2015-03-28 22:12:58
In reply to voiceofreason
Didn't the youngsters performances improve? So Ridley may have a point...
voiceofreason
2015-03-28 22:25:22
In reply to Larr Pullo
They had two wins at the end of the season vs a weak TnT and Jamaica. Good finish to a woeful season where one batsman averaged over 30 and he played just 3 matches and he is considered a senior Player: Steve Liburd.
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The mere fact that Reifer helped Guyana while Leewards ended up 2-8 shows that the Leewards could have profited from outside help. Jacobs clearly stated that Leewards did not need outside help and when he was in the position to draft outside players he refused.
I believe we have some talented youngsters but they cannot do it by themselves.It is amazing that the two games that we won our two most experienced batsmen Devon Thomas and Steve Liburd produced and helped to guide young talents like Cornwall and Sherwin Peters. The problem with those two is that they are very inconsistent as there career averages of 24.78 (Thomas) and 21.84(Liburd) suggest.
voiceofreason
2015-03-28 22:27:14
I would like to see Cardigan Connor, Eldine Baptiste and Kennie Benjamin involved in the coaching of this team.
Pacy
2015-03-29 00:04:47
In reply to voiceofreason
VOR even you were of the same opinion as Ridley was at the time of the draft... When I was stating you that Sarwan or Hinds might have helped LI you were stating that they would not make any difference.
For me Ridley was just another average player. As a coach he was clear that LI had talent and said that same Publicly. If the Administration had reservations they should have come out then. Now after the loss blaming one person is not going to solve anything.
LI needs a relook at what they are going to do to bring talent to the forefront. Bim has had some success this year with new fresh talent. If 2-3 regions can produce talent we should be in a good place.
voiceofreason
2015-03-29 07:59:23
In reply to Pacy
VOR even you were of the same opinion as Ridley was at the time of the draft... When I was stating you that Sarwan or Hinds might have helped LI you were stating that they would not make any difference.
Huh?
When did I say that? I was always for drafting players from outside the region. Please do not misquote me. Maybe I had doubts about Sarwan himself and inn retrospect with Sarwan's injury well I was right. Surely we could have selected other players from Windwards or Barbados.
For me Ridley was just another average player. As a coach he was clear that LI had talent and said that same Publicly. If the Administration had reservations they should have come out then. Now after the loss blaming one person is not going to solve anything.
'He may have been an average player but he overachieved with his limited talent as he was always a hard worker and a team player. Remember that Ridley UNFAIRLY made his debut at 31 when his talent was on the wane. I have no issues with Ridley as a player and this has nothing to do with that, my issue is with him rejecting an opportunity to add some experience.
If the Administration had reservations they should have come out then. Now after the loss blaming one person is not going to solve anything.
When a team goes 2-8 there is need for introspection and drastic changes. Questions need to be asked and answered so we can find out what went drastically wrong and try not to repeat those mistakes. Sure he could have come out earlier but better late than not at all.
doosra
2015-03-29 08:09:46
In reply to voiceofreason
your woeful bunch of admins have no right booking anyone
they should all resign
voiceofreason
2015-03-29 08:22:23
In reply to doosra
I doubt that the Board will fire the CEO. The CEO has some questions to allegations of poor travel arrangements with these cancelled bookings leaving the team and the team being left at the airport.
Ridley lashing back
“A lot of times I have asked about hotel accommodation and where we are staying and get the information from the CEO that everything has been put in place, and when we get to the venue or to the hotel nothing has been put in place,” the coach said.
“Travel arrangements, sometimes we have so much problems with that where it is said everything is being organized and when you look, nothing has been organized. I think that it has been a rough road for the team because a lot of players have been upset because of that where they have been on airports for hours and don’t know what’s happening,” he added.
The Manager should be the one sorting these arrangements. I wonder what is his take on this.
doosra
2015-03-29 08:49:35
In reply to voiceofreason
for years, yes years....you've been complaining about LICA here
something is wrong over there..."wronger" than elsewhere in the region? perhaps
Pacy
2015-03-29 10:33:20
In reply to voiceofreason
When did I say that? I was always for drafting players from outside the region. Please do not misquote me. Maybe I had doubts about Sarwan himself and inn retrospect with Sarwan's injury well I was right. Surely we could have selected other players from Windwards or Barbados.
No VOR. We specifically argued about selection of Sarwan / Hinds for Middle order but you said that they would not make much of a difference. In a sense you were right since Sarwan pulled out and Hinds did not do much.
Anyway, strategies and approaches are different and that is understandable. I think WICB should say Min 2 non base players should be in the final 11. That would remove all this stigma.
'He may have been an average player but he overachieved with his limited talent as he was always a hard worker and a team player.
I would agree he was a hard worker but never a overachiever. If he is overachiever then what do we call people like Hussey who made his debut late?
When a team goes 2-8 there is need for introspection and drastic changes. Questions need to be asked and answered so we can find out what went drastically wrong and try not to repeat those mistakes. Sure he could have come out earlier but better late than not at all.
I would agree that there has to be introspection but to blame someone for a collective issue is not right. Accept that there was a selection policy and that backfired. Next time they would try a different direction that should be simple.
But now by this unncessary task of pinpointing someone there is again media war. Ridley accuses, ceo eccuses and again Ridley. All over a team that would not have done much anyway.
voiceofreason
2015-03-29 11:38:44
In reply to Pacy
No VOR. We specifically argued about selection of Sarwan / Hinds for Middle order but you said that they would not make much of a difference. In a sense you were right since Sarwan pulled out and Hinds did not do much
Your claim is that I did not support any overseas draft players in the Leewards which is false. I just did not find Ronnie or Ryan suitable.
But now by this unncessary task of pinpointing someone there is again media war. Ridley accuses, ceo eccuses and again Ridley. All over a team that would not have done much anyway
Let them fight it out publicly. This is what regularly goes on behind doors and it is time that the public see what a dysfunctional organization. Maybe that would lead to some pressure for change. For years I have said that Leewards is a microcosm of West Indies...Nothing has changed my view point. No wonder Kieran Powell and Chesney Hughes do not want to be a part of such an organization.
The sooner we get some of our finest cricket minds in Eldine Baptiste,Cardigan Connor, Ambrose, Richards and Roberts involved in the system the better for us all.
Pacy
2015-03-29 12:50:38
In reply to voiceofreason
VOR I have always believed LI and WI are a miniature of WI set up in the sense that they have the same challenge WICB has with a group of countries coming togather to represent etc.
One of them can actually step up and present WICB with a template for sucess in the administration of the game. But unfortunately they dont realise that.
There are talented past players and now, with PCL, there is also some money to spend. They should step up and show how they can address player morale, Insularity and also administration. I hope they do that this time around.
For me 1 coach will not work. There has to be a coaching setup in all the countries who report to LI coach with a common program. Each country should be identifying their best 3-4 players and move them up with the agreement that out of these best guys the 15 would be selected. This will work as long as the respective country boards agree that the coaches have freehand and report to LI coach.
