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Who were hating on young Jason Holder?

 
Yadi 2015-04-18 10:14:17 

Talk nuh?

 
nickoutr 2015-04-18 10:39:54 

In reply to Yadi
I don't think he got haters now ... young man don't need detractors now .. unless they come from dem likkle islands
smile

 
Controversy 2015-04-18 21:47:06 

hes there as a bowler/allrounder, bowler primarily and for the record, he is not in bravo class

 
Scar 2015-04-19 01:33:53 

In reply to Controversy

What class is that? big grin Ego, cerebral, listener/learner etc.

You do know only time will tell which one scores more runs and takes more wickets over the same Test span.

You guys have to seriously stop pretending Bravo was as fast as Walsh big grin when he was lower 80s area early in his career. All thr rpunders in other Test teans outshone Bravo so stop acting as if he was this great 'rounder- compard him to them before using the word "class" on him - it is often reserved for top players whose averages are way way ahead of the rest. Bravos exceptionalism was in his fielding which many in elation let seep into thier judgement of his performance. Frankly Bravos ability belies his career numbers - he has been a disappointment in that regard.

 
Patrickcity 2015-04-19 01:41:58 

@ScarWhat class is that , seriously. I don't know if your admiration for Bravo surpassed mine when he started his career. However something happened on the way to him being good. I don't know what. For the record he was never fast, his trump was he was not afraid to change the balls he was bowling at will. He moved the ball ,but was never a threat with pace , not even to a Batsman like me. I saw Jason Holder and thought he was average. He bowled out the Guyana team between lunch and close of play, under floodlights at Providence. The Guyana team was nothing to scream about so I did not think he could be rated. However he seems to have improved somewhat.

 
GMA 2015-04-19 01:52:46 

Bravo was never particularly fast as a bowler.
He could get good movement and was/is an excellent limited-overs bowler.
I loved watching him bat but always seemed very loose.
Holder is not fast at the moment but is faster than bravo.
He has huge potential as a bowler with his bounce etc.
His batting looks really good, he has the ability to hit
a big ball too but looks classically correct.
Seems to have a good head too.
Very excited about him.

 
brians_da_best 2015-04-19 03:58:01 

If you think Bravo was a very goo aall rounder, you are mistaken. Post his numbers, and you'll see he has an average record.

Holder is just starting off, and he already seems better than bravo. He's a tall guy who can extract bounce, and as he gets stronger, he will add more pace too.

His batting is already very good, and in times to come, I see him make the number 7 spot his own.

Will let us play the extra bowler, too

 
hairline1 2015-04-19 09:16:10 

In reply to GMA

Good point he plays with A straight bat. His size could also be an advantage. Very gud' cover and straght driving.