How him looking at Test level ?
Still our best seamer maybe...but this is not Divison two country cricket.
We'll see how he goes.
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Tell me again how Cummins doing well in Ingerlan
he continues to avg 21.00 in test cricket...I think despite Pak's big start...he will get wickets in this match and maintain his average.
In reply to analyst-kid
He will get his wickets when Pak starts looking for quick runs for declaration..
In reply to Khaga
I agree, that is how everybody will get wickets.
In reply to granite
Das how he got his fiver.
I'd love to see him get his wickets when the batsman's trying to stay in.
He seems pretty harmless against test batsmen then.
In reply to DIEHARD
No shame here IMO. The UAE is rough for most pacers, always see Pakistan pile up 500+ declared. I thought we should have went with 2 pacers and 2 spinners.
In reply to CricketLuva4
I almost said lets see how our batsmen do against their pacers, but that won't be the problem.
It'll be their spinners that'll kill us
In reply to analyst-kid
Correction...Cummins used to average 21 in Test cricket. That average will change after this match, and end up more in keeping with the averages of other WI bowlers, i.e. in the 40s.
Why none of the bajan posse not all over this like they were over my post when I was asking them to look at his performances for Worcestershire in the proper context?
They kept trying to tell me he de nex Curtly Ambrose.
Maybe they waiting till after the Pakis get themselves out, and he gets 5- 120 off his 40 overs?
Then they'll show up saying I told you so..
In reply to mikesiva
20-2-74-0 will not make him get to the 40s...that will take a number of 20-2-74-0s
In reply to DIEHARD
Any Bajan telling you that Cummins is the next Ambrose is not only an idiot but would have me wondering if they are Bajans at all.
Bajans have been blessed with Hall, Griffith, Boyce,Holder,Clarke,Garner,Daniel,Hartley Alleyne,Moseley,Marshall...and later to a lesser extent Edwards and Roach ..why would they run to acclaim a bowler who hasn't excelled yet at test level?
In reply to mikesiva
look at Roach...his test avg is STILL 30.23 although discarded!
In reply to analyst-kid... is because he discarded why it at 30.23
In reply to analyst-kid
His average is now 35.22 and climbing...Cummins will soon be in the class of Gabriel, Roach, etc.
In reply to analyst-kid
Maybe he will be the new Fidel. Take a bag ah fivers and still average 40ish.
Will Cummings ever take a wicket again?
Someone please post that youtube video of his 6 wickets against India.
I must confess I didn't look when they posted it on that other thread where all the Bajans came after me.
Is anybody watching this test? I'm not, so is it that he's bowling well and without luck, is he looking threatening?
In reply to DIEHARD... suh you saying we should send him back to "Ingerlan"?
In reply to natty_forever I said it before this guy is not test class. I would have gone in with another spinner.
In reply to londoner... Seems we should a pick 4 spinners.
In reply to DIEHARD
Cummins didn't look threatening at all. He occasionally bowled a 140+ ball, but most of his deliveries were in the 130s, and the batsmen played him with ease.
He had one or two good deliveries, but I'm struggling to remember them....
In reply to londoner
Cummings still Prolly one of the best of the bad lot, but u right, he doesnt look test class to me, never did.
We lost Collymore, Collins, Fidel, Rampaul and so too early, these older guys should have been sharing their knowledge with the younger pacers.
The fricking WICB need to fix this pitch problem we have here fast.
Although it seems like they have improved slightly based on what was on offer during the India series.
But they need to stop offering our rubbish spinners so much assistance, flattering them.
Causing regional skippers to give our pacers the first 5 overs of an innings to bowl, then get banished to third man.
As POINT often says, you have to gain the experience to improve.
Then our batsmen would also get better at facing pace, right now...they cant bat spin or pace lol.
In reply to Khaga
He will get his wickets when Pak starts looking for quick runs for declaration..
Isn't that how Bishoo got his (6) quick wickets in the first test.
In reply to DIEHARD
We lost Collymore, Collins, Fidel, Rampaul and so too early, these older guys should have been sharing their knowledge with the younger pacers.
Fidel and Rampaul were pushed out off WI cricket
In reply to Pacy
Doan know bout Fidel but it would have been really difficult to push Rampaul out....
In reply to CricketLuva4
you are correct, them UAE wickets have nothing for pacers if yo can't utilise swing or seam bowling. Cummins action is all over the place, it would be hard for him to hit a good length consistently. He'll bowl a lot of shortish balls, when they are pitched up, will be venom-less. Cricket is physics.
In reply to jen
very well put, and you are sooo right, never thought of it like that..i like it
Cricket is physics.
In reply to natty_forever
Instead of Cummins, we should probably be playing an experienced left-armer, like Nikita Miller....
I would bet he'd take more wickets in the UAE than Cummins has.
Unfortunately the Windies best four seamers are recovering from injured, retired from test cricket or gone kolpak.
If Taylor, Edwards, Rampaul or Roach were available or fit then Gabriel & Cummins would be getting ready at home for the PCL.
In reply to WICFan
You must not be following WI cricket a long time.
Taylor and Roach looked worse than what's on show here, in the last test series they played.
The selectors decided they were done with Rampaul and Edwards... This to accommodate Sammy..and now Holder.
So even if they were fit and or available. Chances are none of the four you mentioned would be selected.
When will Cummings take another test wicket?
In reply to DIEHARD
FYI,
In reply to mikesiva
You'd probably lose that bet.
His 1 Test he went wicketless while in ODIs vs teams 1-9 he took 22 wickets from 34 matches at 52.
In reply to Andy99
And how long ago was that? Spinners improve with experience, and Miller has done that....
It makes more sense to play a left-arm seamer in these conditions than an extra pacer like Cummins. That's why England picked Zafar Ansari for Bangladesh to accompany Moeen and Rashid.
Cummins took 1-219 on this Test tour...Miller would've done better.
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