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HEADLINE: WICB extends olive branch to Bravo
CaribbeanCricket.com
2016-12-03 10:05:59
Officials of the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) have taken a decision to reconcile their differences with T&T and West Indies batsman Darren Bravo. However, it will depend on the left-hander and if he’s willing to play his part.
A well-placed source close to the latest developments at the WICB has indicated to the Trinidad Guardian that the board’s officials are willing to provide counselling and career guidance for the player, who hails from Santa Cruz, in order to get his career back on track as quickly as possible.
According to the source: “The board has recognised that Bravo is a young man with immense cricketing talent but it believes he’s not dealing with issues in the right way at the moment. The source continued he (Bravo) has exhibited actions that are not in his best interests of his well-being and the sport. Imagine being sent home for disciplinary reasons and going ahead to post a tweet ‘home sweet home’.
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silver
2016-12-03 10:10:27
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Nice. We can't afford to rebuild every year
doosra
2016-12-03 10:29:53
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
after legal papers?
silver
2016-12-03 10:37:28
In reply to doosra
These money hungry lawyers are not cheap
imusic
2016-12-03 11:01:22
Their "olive branch" is to send him for counseling?
Dem completely out to not just lunch, but breakfast, dinner AND snacks
Imagine being sent home for disciplinary reasons and going ahead to post a tweet home sweet home.
It means being home is way better than being in that poisonous environment called WI cricket under your administration yuh
BIG IDIOT!
POINT
2016-12-03 11:22:17
In reply to imusic
I am of the opinion that the members of the WICBC realize that their case
is not as stellar as they initially believed .
pelon
2016-12-03 11:37:39
This is a poison pill. Yet Bravo clearly has been given the upper hand.
The legality of "he has a contract" was as egregious a breach of professional ethics as "big idiot"
To suggest an olive branch that renders the recipient the "benefit" of "needing counseling" - is a clear indicator of the depths of perfidy administrators at WICB are capable of.
A very very clever offer there guys.... good luck with the wool.
jacksparrow
2016-12-03 12:01:25
Well is this just a PR thing or are they genuinely looking to reach out. I would applaud this but the press release leaves me suspicious.
XDFIX
2016-12-03 12:01:43
See, comrade Cameron does not think himself too big to reach out to a petulant subordinate!
A man from the plantation knows the runnings unlike those from the big house
Big up comrade Cameron!
safh1999
2016-12-03 13:02:12
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
wa rass this! dem mek trouble with all senior players and drove them away, now the talking about providing career guidance. Crap crap and more crap. WICB need to be fired with disdain.
Maispwi
2016-12-03 13:17:03
In reply to pelon
Ah hear dat Bravo say he want DD to attend de same counselling sessions
FuzzyWuzzy
2016-12-03 14:04:48
There's something about this that makes me uncomfortable.
Did Bravo ever let on that he has issues? Hmmmm
.
jacksprat
2016-12-03 14:33:27
In reply to Maispwi
Ah hear dat Bravo say he want DD to attend de same counselling sessions
Is there rehab available for pathological lying?
cricketest
2016-12-03 14:40:28
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Did Bravo ever let on that he has issues? Hmmmm[/q]
Do you remember the dream?
Halliwell
2016-12-03 16:12:18
Well done Bravs
They don't know how to deal with your silence!
Plans A B C D and they coming with E soon
Buncha IDIOTS!
powen001
2016-12-03 16:19:03
In reply to imusic
First post
co signed...
RT on the case...
Bravo did the right thing by doing a Jesus and saying NOTHING since the tweet.
These guys in the WICB are hilarious...
Bravo needs counseling? what the france....steupse..
dayne
2016-12-03 18:42:13
This incident just re-enforce the suggestion that the WICB should be reorganized or disbanded. The Players have lost respect for the Guys on the WICB, it has become a reality like show now. In the future the President of the WICB should have to answer to a higher group of officials.
POINT
2016-12-03 19:26:30
It seems to me that the grovelling now
by the WICBC , is due to the fact that
it realizes its Case is Weak , so it
is now attempting to make nice with
Bravo .
If Bravo intends to have a discussion with the WICBC , HE needs to have is
Lawyer in attendance at ALL discussions . He also needs to have
very private discussions with his Lawyer before giving the WICBC his
response to what the WICBC requests .
It seems to me that the WICBC is feeling a lot of heat , Publicly &
from most of the Regional Governments
hence its grovelling .
Let me again state at this juncture
that when the Tour to India was aborted , and Some Players decided to
Resign from WIPA . In this Forum I stated the following :
THE PLAYERS WHO RESIGNED FROM WIPA
NEEDED COLLECTIVELY TO GET A LAW FIRM
THAT SPECIALIZES IN CONTRACTS TO
COLLECTIVELY REPRESENT THEM .
Because not only is there Strength in
Unity , the cost of collective
Legal representation would be much less than if each Player hires his
own Lawyer .
It is still not to late for Players
who resigned from WIPA to do that .
Bravo needs to pay attention to what
happened to Phil Simmons . My take is
that the WICBC currently does not
have the upper hand , so it is quite possible that it wants Bravo reinstated and then when it believe that it has a very Good Reason to fire Bravo , they will do that .
POINT
2016-12-03 19:40:04
In reply to dayne
I share your sentiments .
THE CRUX OF THE MATTER IS THAT
THE PEOPLE IN THE WICBC ARE ADAMANTLY
OPPOSED TO ANY STRUCTURAL REFORM OF
ITS 87 YEARS OLD STRUCTURE .
They are deathly afraid to change the
1929 Structure because their power will be diluted , and that in their
opinion must never ever happen .
The Several Reports that they commissioned were only Smokescreens ;
THE WICBC HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION
OF CHANGING ITS STRUCTURE . WHY ??
IT DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE UP THE POWER
THAT ITS MEMBERS CURRENTLY ENJOY .
IT IS ACCOUNTABLE TO NO ONE ; IT
BLUNTLY REFUSE TO BE TRANSPARENT ;
OR ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYONE BUT ITS
MEMBERS .
This is why it has ignored the salient features of all the Reports
it commissioned . Its Latest Ploy was
yet again to commission another Report , this One called the WEHBY
Report .Commissioned by Emperor Dave Cameron . My guess is that this Report will probably be ready by 2018 ..
POINT
2016-12-03 19:47:56
The Members of the WEHBY REPORT , are
high powered executives & Captains of
Industry , whose main job is to make
the shareholders of their various Companies Happy , Dealing with the
Wehby Report is either 3rd or Fourth
in what they have to do .
ALL THIS IS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE WICBC
PLAY BOOK , STALL & STALL & THEN WHEN
IT GETS THE REPORT , IT IGNORES IT .
Meanwhile Our Team particularly in
the longer versions of the game in
the International Cricket Arena is not as competitive as Teams ranked above our Team .
The fact is that the Standard of Cricket in this Region is below the level of International Teams ranked
above our Team in those versions of
the game .
THE TRUTH IS THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE
WICBC ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN SELF
SURVIVAL RATHER THAN EXERCISING GOOD
GOVERNANCE .
Norm
2016-12-03 20:02:51
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Good.
Now, if the other current WI players had the same balls and instinctive smarts as Lil B, we would first have a shortage of olive branches, and then we won't need them anymore.
POINT
2016-12-04 16:13:13
In reply to Norm
I do not believe that the People in the WICBC will ever give up the power that they currently possess via their
87 years old Structure .
This is precisely why they have absolutely no intention of ever making meaningful changes to the Current Structure of the WICBC .
People also need to understand the fact that the ICC really does not give a DAMN , regarding the fact that
the WICBC has absolutely no intention
of exercising GOOD GOVERNANCE .
The ICC IS ONLY CONCERNED WITH
FILLING ITS COFFERS WITH MONEY SO
THAT ENGLAND ; AUSTRALIA & INDIA CAN
GET THE LION'S SHARE OF ITS PROFITS .
Good Governance , is very low on the Totem Pole of both the ICC & the WICBC . My take is that the ICC has
failed the Region by not being critical of the WICBC's failure to
exercise Good Governance of Cricket in the Region .
Frankly , my take is that the ICC has
emboldened the MEMBERS OF THE WICBC
to be Arrogant ; Incompetent , and
hostile towards Good Governance ,having amicable Relations with the
Players . They fail to be transparent
& Accountable regarding their actions .
This is precisely why They have commissioned several Reports , to bamboozle the General Public , when they have absolutely no intention of changing their 1929 Structure .
Norm
2016-12-04 16:51:07
In reply to POINT
my take is that the ICC has emboldened the MEMBERS OF THE WICBC to be Arrogant
The ICC is a continuation of the British colonial mentality, with the ICC itself being the equivalent of the British "nobility".
Way back in the 1890's, this group (with a slightly different name) ended the USA's advancement toward Test cricket status as the US showed strong signs of becoming a top team in the cricket world.
Currently India is enjoying a period of cricket prosperity and the ICC nobility has quickly aligned itself with them. When that changes the nobility will move back to its White center of gravity, and life might go on as usual. Maybe.
The WICB, in turn, has created its own local nobility, and shifts its alignment around to reflect the current power center in WI cricket. So, West Indies cricket is still colonial - but in a mental sense.
silver
2016-12-04 17:20:16
In reply to safh1999
The seniors start make trouble once they got rich
rubberd
2016-12-04 18:53:01
In reply to silver
This industry is entertainment and entertainers expect to be treated in a certain manner as they accumulate some degree of success. As soon as they assert certain conditions they are branded as rebels. It is the administrators that are resisting change, change needed to take the industry out of its amateur past into the professional era where tv is the master and revenues from tv coverage are based on ratings. If you have teams that no one wants to see then that is the biggest impediment to running a profitable business in the tv age.
WICB is reaching out to Bravo because their legal people might be telling them that they went to step 3 before step 1. Step 1 is usually where you meet and counsel and explore options. That the stage where you advise Bravos to remove the tweet and apologize and get the president to retract, both parties need to compromise.
You cannot tread "stars" in a shoddy manner the crack a whip and demand performance, will never happen, "massa day done" somebody need to send the WICB the speech by Eric Williams more than 50 years ago.
M
assa controlled political power in the West Indies and could use state funds for his private gain...As far as (he) was concerned, this organisation of (the) West Indian economy, this dispensation of political power, was one of the eternal verities. He developed the necessary philosophical rationalisation of this barbarous system. It was that the workers, both African and Indian, were inferior beings, unfit for self-government, unequal to their superior masters, permanently destined to a status of perpetual subordination, unable ever to achieve equality with Massa.
powen001
2016-12-04 20:00:00
In reply to Norm
The ICC is a continuation of the British colonial mentality, with the ICC itself being the equivalent of the British "nobility".
and until I see or hear differently ...thats my take too.
ProWI
2016-12-05 05:51:00
I have my issues with Cameron and the WICB most times, but not all times.
I just wish that posters here would pause and stop being so reflexive in their response to this move by the WICB. Biases can often cloud our ability to think through issues clearly and in this instance that's what appears to be happening here.
I also believe that Lil Bravo has some personal issues he has to recognize and address if he is not to derail a promising cricket career.
It would be to his personal benefit that those who surround and/or advise him recognize that these issues can and should be addressed simultaneously with whatever problems he has with the WICB.
Norm
2016-12-05 06:51:56
In reply to ProWI
Lil Bravo has some personal issues
Who doesn't?
The cricketers are the sole producers of WICB income. Without them the WICB could not exist, let alone have any income. Why then should they be treated like the WICB was doing them a favor?
Cameron is a sissy to let Bravo's tweet hurt his ego that much.
JahJah
2016-12-05 10:02:54
In reply to Norm
2 Sissies fighting then. What's there to see?
Star
2016-12-05 10:05:33
In reply to ProWI
You really believe "big idiot" in an off the cuff tweet is enough reason for harming the livelihood of a professional athlete?
You are exhibiting the same plantation mentality as the people who are in position of authority at the WICB.
It takes rational thought, logic and common sense when you are in position of authority at these type of organizations to make decisions which are in touch with today's people management skills.
Day after day all I am seeing coming out of the WICB is "big idiot" decisions. Compulsive erratic decisions and then after the fact, resorting to their legal council to make things right, which is what they should have done in the first place with this simplistic matter.
It is time the WICB understand that no one pays money to see the people who manage WI cricket.
Cricket lovers pay money to see the players. When are they going to get this in their "big idiot" heads?
Just asking.
Kay
2016-12-05 11:11:52
In reply to rubberd
You cannot tread "stars" in a shoddy manner the crack a whip and demand performance, will never happen
You are on the wrong forum. We discuss windies cricket here and using the word "stars" in any way, shape or form is reprehensible to say the least...
POINT
2016-12-05 11:55:50
In reply to Norm
I am in agreement with all that you have stated . The pigmentation of the
People in the WICBC may have changed ,
but their mentality has not changed .
THIS IS PRECISELY WHY I REFER TO
THEM AS THE MIMIC MEN .
MY DISGUST IS THAT THE ICC BY NOW IS
AWARE THAT THE WICBC IS A ROGUE
CRICKET BOARD YET IT TOLERATES THE
FACT THAT THE WICBC IS GOVERNED BY
INCOMPETENT ; ARROGANT PERSONS WHO
BLUNTLY REFUSE TO CHANGE THEIR 1929
STRUCTURE .
This the begs the Question :
WHAT THE HELL IS THE PURPOSE OF THE
ICC WHEN IT CODDLES THOSE WHO REFUSE
TO EXERCISE GOOD GOVERNANCE , FOR
DECADES .
THE ICC IS MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN
ALLOWING INDIA ; AUSTRALIA & ENGLAND
TO HIJACK MOST OF THE ICC PROFITS .
It is very very interesting how the
current Chairman of the ICC got elected to be the Chairman . First
he resigned from the BCCI , then he
denounced the hijacking of most of the ICC profits going to India ; England & Australia .
HE WAS THEN UNANIMOUSLY ELECTED AS
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ICC . SO FAR
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY PUBLIC
UTTERANCES REGARDING WHETHER THE
HIJACKING BY INDIA ; AUSTRALIA &
ENGLAND HAS BEEN RESCINDED .
Frankly in my opinion the stench coming from the ICC is unbearable .
This is precisely why like FIFA & the
IOC , the ICC must be examined , for
its failure to ensure that ALL its
Members exercises Good Governance .
WE know that in this Region the WICBC
has failed to exercise Good Governance for Decades , yet the ICC
has been silent about this fact .
The ICC cannot plead being innocent regarding the Maladministration of
the Worst International Cricket Board
in the Commonwealth , aka the WICBC .
ProWI
2016-12-05 18:03:40
In reply to Star
You really believe "big idiot" in an off the cuff tweet is enough reason for harming the livelihood of a professional athlete?
That "off the cuff tweet" demonstrated a lack of maturity. But this is not the first time Bravo's "attitude" has caused problems on tour. He needs professional help, either through the WICB, or through some familial intervention.
A couple of weeks ago, during the Zimbabwe tour, I suggested that bad behavior even underperformance could be addressed first within the team, with an appropriate fine meted out through a collective decision by teammates.
Unlike,
in this case by an Australian team, I have my doubts if individual West Indian players could even stomach being reprimanded by their own.
But what if a similar team leadership structure existed within the West Indies team, there might not have been a need for Cameron to be personally piqued and react the way he did. Bravo might still be a part of the team if such a structure had existed.
POINT
2016-12-06 10:29:47
In reply to ProWI
So are you insinuating that the WICBC
is a very well run ; Professional Entity ??
I am perpetually amazed that people
love being critical of the Players
while giving Cameron & Co a Free Pass .
The end result of this utter Stupidity serves to falsely inform
the People in the WICBC that not
only are they Right , they can continue being Incompetent ; Arrogant
and Unaccountable for their maladministration of Cricket in the Region .
In my opinion , WE have to first
deal with those in the governance of
Cricket , before dealing with the
Players . I have absolutely no doubt
that once this is done , the Problem with Our Players will quickly diminish .