Ramadin/Valentine, Hall/Griffith, Roberts/Holding, Walsh/Ambrose, all great combos but the one in my eyes which brought us true greatness was the Croft/Garner team when that arrived we certainly arrived. What seh you? Who tops it for yuh lot?
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Great Windies Bowling Combo
2016-12-23 00:36:17
2016-12-23 06:20:06
In reply to Raggs
Tino Best/Darren Powell 
2016-12-23 07:59:06
In reply to anthonyp
Everyting is ah joke fi yuh eh? lol!
2016-12-23 13:41:49
In reply to Raggs
I was arguing on another post which was the greatest regional combo of all time...Butts/Harper, Marshall/Garner, Nagamootoo/McGarrell, Howard/Holford, Miller/Brown but noone paid me no mind.
In ref to your post remember Croft/Garner was a first change combo and no doubt WI greatest first change combo of them all.
But first you must recognise Marshall/Garner, Ambrose/Bishop (this was a deadly one!) Im trying to remember who opened the bowling when WI toured Pak in 1978 and the four prong was Roberts,Marshall,Croft and Clarke with Holding not making the final team!
2016-12-23 13:57:38
In reply to analyst-kid
no mention of Hall / Griffith or Sobers/ Gibbs
2016-12-23 13:58:09
In reply to analyst-kid
Ambrose/Bishop (this was a deadly one!)
Yes, indeed. Ambrose, mean and stingy with Bishop, mean and nasty.
2016-12-23 14:15:02
In reply to anthonyp
Great combo certainly for the opposition batsmen.
2016-12-23 14:59:38
Malcolm Marshall and anybody
2016-12-23 15:06:21
They claim that Warne/McGarth were the greatest but I would have to give it to Akram/Younis they were to me from another planet.
2016-12-23 15:07:36
In reply to Raggs
They claim that Warne/McGarth were the greatest but I would have to give it to Akram/Younis they were to me from another planet.
Agreed.
Thommo and Lillee were terrorizers....in their prime, I struggle to think of a better combo
2016-12-23 15:09:24
In reply to analyst-kid
Regionally was I would give it to Walsh/Holding/Patterson the times they played together the job was always done. I remember Jamaica winning a shell shield trophy after x amount of years without it from that deadly trio.
2016-12-24 10:05:10
In reply to Raggs
WTF are you talking about.
There was no combo called CROFT/GARNER.
You made that shyte up. They were change up after Roberts/Holding used the new ball....when they played.
You make it sound as though WI played for an era with Croft and Garner as strike bowlers.
I'm surprised you got so far with that farce here with no one calling you out.
They were just part of Lloyd's ever changing 4 prong.
2016-12-24 14:13:29
In reply to Tagwa1
WTF are you talking about.
There was no combo called CROFT/GARNER.
You made that shyte up.
There was no combo called CROFT/GARNER.
You made that shyte up.
They were a combo and furthermore Lloyd started his attack with Holding/Roberts then normally the first change was Garner/Croft together with Roberts/Holding rested at the same time.
Seem your ignorance allows you to shout it out too loud. What's a combo, Mr Columbo?
2016-12-24 14:53:39
In reply to Raggs
I was on my phone so there maybe a few typos. I'll correct later.
Raggs when you are called out as this the best thing is to go Country and hide for a while. Responding only shows up your ignorance more.
Again....You are making that shyte up.
There was no Garner/Croft Combo. They bowled a few times together but there was no Combo per se, to say they were constantly being at opposite end.
Garner was a permanent member of the 4 prong. He played 58 years.
Croft destructive aS he was only played 27 tests.
Roberts/Holding was a Combo...
Croft was destructive as bowler, especially in that series against Pakistan.
But this Croft/Garner Combo of which you speak never existed given the amount of bowlers that at one time or the other played in that 4 prong, especially as 3 and 4th bowler.
You weren't following cricket then and it shows in the shyte you talk. Give it up.
No one from that time would talk of a Garner/Croft Combo, much less to say that this combo somehow was a turning point for WI cricket as you say.
Purely shyte talk from someone who was not there.
2016-12-24 15:11:45
In reply to Tagwa1
put it to dis board[mb] then to see who taking the bull.
2016-12-24 15:27:53
My recollection is that Garner and Croft debuted at the same time and got their chance because Roberts and co were unavailable (don't remember the circumstances)
Both made such an impression that they not only retained their places when the others returned, but went on to star in a formidable West Indies bowling attack
2016-12-24 15:28:04
They bowled together but was never any permanent combo as say a Roberts/Holding, Ambrose/Walsh ect.
They were 3 and 4 and so bowled with a host of other people, including 1 and 2 , other fast bowlers and the occasional spinner.
Even more laughable is you saying that they someone changed the fortunes of WI cricket in their limited bowling they did at 3 and 4.
2016-12-24 15:44:28
In reply to imusic
Yes both in '77 versus Pakistan.
Roberts actually played longer than Croft, retiring in '83, whereas Croft finished after going to SA in 1982.
In addition to my points above re the Combo, Marshall debuted in '78 and Daniel who played 10 test also started in '76.
Lots of bowlers to share that ball and mix and match.
2016-12-24 15:48:41
In reply to imusic
My recollection is that Garner and Croft debuted at the same time and got their chance because Roberts and co were unavailable (don't remember the circumstances)
they made their debut together when HOLDING was out. They clicked well enuff not for the windies to miss Mikey and when the Jamaican returned then the terror 4some was born.
2016-12-24 18:35:18
In reply to Raggs
You do know that Benn has a better strike rate than Ramadhin or Valentine
2016-12-24 20:18:56
In reply to Baje And how many tests has Mr.Benn won with his superior strike rate?
2016-12-24 20:27:11
In reply to analyst-kid To hear you say it, one is left to wonder.Holding did not fail to make the team to Pakistan, he was injured.
Just as he was during/after the Barbados vs Jamaica Shell Shield game in 1977, thus opening the door for Garner and or Croft.
2016-12-24 22:18:05
In reply to alfa1975
I DIDNT read that in Tony Cozier's WEST Indies Cricket Annual 1978.
I read that Holding was injured and when he regained fitness,he couldnt get back into the team.
So in essence we are both correct.
2016-12-25 02:04:44
In reply to tc1
no mention of Hall / Griffith or Sobers/ Gibbs
Hall/Griffith at ages 30 and 31 respectively went to Aus in 1968/69 and their lack of penetration (Hall with 8 wkts avg 40.62 and Griffith 8 wkts avg 53.75)enabled AUS to win the 5 test series 3-1. No WI bowler was spared the sword as Gibbs/Sobers led the wickets with Sobers avg 18 @40.72 and Gibbs 24 @ 38.04
Marshall/Garner never failed for the WI esp against Aus where Garner and Ambrose were so deadly on those bouncy pitches
In 1984 at ages 26 and 32 respectively Marshall and Garner went to Aus and avg 28 @ 19.78 and 19 @ 29.78 leading the WI attack with Holding and Walsh first change ( who did better than Sobers/Gibbs) helped to beat Aus 3-1
Furthermore even when thrashed by SA 5-0 IN 1998/99 AT THE AGES OF 35 and 36 respectively Ambrose and Walsh still performed creditably with Ambrose avg 13 @ 23.76 and Walsh avg a phenonomal 22 @ 18.90....Indeed their last tour to Aus in 1996/97 aged 33 and 34 , Ambrose and Walsh avg 19 @23.36 and 19 @ 31.15 ably assisted by Bishop but losing the series 3-2
2016-12-25 08:04:23
“THOSE LITTLE PALS OF MINE“
Damn! Valentine was also sartorial special – here he is even sporting a gold neckless in those times
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