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WHAT IMMPROVEMENTS ARE WE LOOKING FOR IN 2017

 
allan 2016-12-28 10:16:35 

The winning of a test series (pakistan) and drawing a couple matches in england.

Improvement in odi ranking to 7th or maybe 6th..

A settle test team made up of the following players:

Kraigg
Alleyne or brandon king
shai hope or jamar hamilton
Shane at #4 and wicketkeeper
Blackwood
Chase
Cornwall
Holder as captain
Bishoo
Joseph
Gabriel
Cummins
Nikita miller deserves another chance
Kemar roach

 
WICFan 2016-12-28 10:31:51 

An improvement in player-board relations for a start.

 
Gun_Play 2016-12-28 10:43:17 

In reply to allan

First improvement in Test should be to try not to lose a test match... At least try to draw each match against better opposition, especially away from home.

ODI improvement should be to put the team in a position to win each game. The ODI team tried doing that in the last series but its a learning curve for them.

Hopefully we get some good results in 2017

 
Drapsey 2016-12-28 10:45:55 

In reply to allan

Have you given up on Bravo?

 
Baje 2016-12-28 13:43:29 

Stability in selection/coaching/cricket operations. More selectorial power to the coach. Results will follow.

 
allan 2016-12-28 14:07:42 

In reply to Drapsey

bravo give up windies cricket

 
cricketmygame 2016-12-28 14:13:20 

In reply to allan

we hope you can make some sensible cricket post to start

 
POINT 2016-12-28 15:41:10 

In reply to WICFan

I have very bad news for you , that aint ever going to happen . Why would
the members of the Worst International
Cricket Board , give up their current Structure , that guarantees it to do

ANYTHING IT WANTS WITHOUT FEAR OF ANY

REPERCUSSIONS & BECAUSE THE

INTERNATIONAL CABAL HAS GIVEN THE

WICBC THE GREEN LIGHT TO DO ANYTHING THAT

IT WANTS TO DO .


My hope is that the Majority of the Regional Governments will come to the Realization that they have to have both the Members of the ICC & the WICBC in a Law Court to answer changes Regarding their RESPECTIVE Stewardships of CRICKET .

 
POINT 2016-12-28 16:00:50 

Perhaps WE may get the findings of WEHBY Report that was Commissioned by Cameron & Co
I would like to see if its findings differs
from previous Reports that the WICBC Commissioned , that all declared that the WICBC needs to change its 87 years old Structure .

My prediction is that if it states that the WICBC needs to do serious restructuring , and adhere to the Principles of Good Governance , and embraces , Transparency & Good Governance
the Members of the WICBC are going to not
only reject the Report , but continue shopping for a Report that tells them
that their 1929 Structure is Great .

The Governments in the Region need to fully understand that writing or going to
the ICC will be an exercise in Futility .
The ICC fully knows that the WICBC is a
ROGUE CRICKET BOARD , however that does not matter to the ICC , It does not care
about the WICBC exercising Good Governance .
Recently the ICC was in the news , when 3
of its Members colluded to hijack most of the ICC Profits for themselves . I cite this to buttress & illustrate why , writing or going to the ICC is a lost cause .

 
openning 2016-12-28 16:11:10 

In reply to allan

I am going to go slowly with my response;
My hope is for the Leewards to returned to its inter-Island tournaments, the other regional bards to developed above average International players, and for my Island to have the best cricketers in the entire world.
We have never depended on the WICB to be honest with players, it was each Island that place players on the regional and International teams, in order for this to continue, Kiddies cricket, U-19 cricket, regional cricket, must adapt the best practices.
I will like to see Jamaica and Guyana having a semi pro league, so that cricketers, who are not contracted can play cricket during these Island/country cricket season.
TTCB and the BCA now have cricketers playing in their local clubs.
I am not expecting any changes or improvement to the Test or ODI teams this year, but I am hoping Jimmy like Phil express his desire to have all cricketers playing for the West Indies.

 
POINT 2016-12-28 19:14:58 

Apart from what I have already stated
, in my opinion , the most promising
players in the Region , regardless of
the Country they come from , MUST be
able to attend the BEST CRICKET ACADEMIES , in the Region .

FROM KIDDIES CRICKET UPWARDS , I WANT

GOOD COACHES DRILLING INTO THEM THE

FUNDAMENTALS OF THE GAME .

So that by age 14 playing all aspects
of Cricket will be akin to having reflex action .

My take is that emphasis MUST be on
the longer formats of the game , which calls for mental & physical
Stamina . The Marathon Runner can run a 100 meters , but the 100 meters runner aint have the Stamina to run a Marathon .

That is why emphasis must be on the longer formats of the game . I am not
saying that the shortest version of the game must be ignored ; but once
our Players can improve in all aspects of the longer versions of
the game , the shortest version will
be like a piece of cake .

Unless ALL the Teams in the Region
are more or less at the same level of competitiveness , the Standard of
Cricket in the Region , aint going to improve , Regionally & Internationally . Unfortunately this
has escaped many here & those in charge , apparently are oblivious to this .

 
POINT 2016-12-28 19:19:09 

Apart from what I have already stated
, in my opinion , the most promising
players in the Region , regardless of
the Country they come from , MUST be
able to attend the BEST CRICKET ACADEMIES , in the Region .

FROM KIDDIES CRICKET UPWARDS , I WANT

GOOD COACHES DRILLING INTO THEM THE

FUNDAMENTALS OF THE GAME .

So that by age 14 playing all aspects
of Cricket will be akin to having reflex action .

My take is that emphasis MUST be on
the longer formats of the game , which calls for mental & physical
Stamina . The Marathon Runner can run a 100 meters , but the 100 meters runner aint have the Stamina to run a Marathon .

That is why emphasis must be on the longer formats of the game . I am not
saying that the shortest version of the game must be ignored ; but once
our Players can improve in all aspects of the longer versions of
the game , the shortest version will
be like a piece of cake .

Unless ALL the Teams in the Region
are more or less at the same level of competitiveness , the Standard of
Cricket in the Region , aint going to improve , Regionally & Internationally . Unfortunately this
has escaped many here & those in charge , apparently are oblivious to this freaking fact .

I would like ANYONE to explain to me
why cramming 4 innings into 2 days
will automatically harness their skills ; Mental & Physical Stamina
to succeed in a 4 days Tournament .
Yet they persist in this Asinine Stupidity .

The longer versions of the game call for long stays at the crease , I would like someone to tell me How the Hell that can happen in Windward Islands Cricket , when Players are mandated to play 4 innings in 2 blasted days .

 
tc1 2016-12-28 19:49:59 

That the POINT stop posting these long redundancies over and over

 
POINT 2016-12-28 19:52:53 

In reply to tc1

Thanks for stating nothing . I may be repetitive , however I take comfort in the fact that You & others of your Ilk can never ever factually refute what I have stated .

Many here like shooting the Messenger , while ignoring the Message ; Being
critical of what I write , and refusing to reflect on what I state it
seems is the modus operandi of the
WICBC's Lackeys in this Forum .

 
imusic 2016-12-28 20:31:02 

In reply to allan

WHAT IMMPROVEMENTS ARE WE LOOKING FOR IN 2017

Improvement (one "m" before p) in spelling for starters?

Or you want "imediate" results? cool

 
openning 2016-12-28 20:34:52 

In reply to tc1

Bro, Point just dont get it.
Lets look at the best Olympians in the region, excluding Jamaicans, these athletes train and live, where they can succeed, he believe by sending a young cricketer to an academy, on returning home, he should be a world class.
The BCA has about thirty contracted cricketers, males and females, all these cricketers has a home to learn their skill, we can argue or debate about the type of training, by they have a faciality with a management team.
Each island in the Windwards will have to follow TTCB and the BCA in order to get top cricketers on the West Indies team.
The WICB has contracted 90 players, how many contracted players are in SVG, or what has that Island doing, to get more players on the regional team?
Guyana is crazy about cricket, I expect them to come together and have a couple of academies, and offer local contracts to players all over that country.

 
tc1 2016-12-28 21:04:11 

In reply to openning
Point has not offered a solution to the problems facing WIC , everyone knows that the WICB is mismanaged, how its fix, no one knows.

 
openning 2016-12-28 21:22:08 

In reply to tc1

The West Indies in not a country, just look at it that way.
Each Island for the last 100 years were putting players on the West Indies team.
Point will soon have a heart attack with the professionalism of regional cricket, seeing 5-7 non Winward Islanders playing for the Windwards.

 
tc1 2016-12-28 22:26:55 

In reply to openning

And this is why the franchise system might not work in the Caribbean . each island would rather see their own players in their colours

 
openning 2016-12-28 22:35:42 

In reply to tc1
If it is like the CPL it will work, Chefette is working in Barbados.
If you buy a franchise you contract the players you want, Barbadians in the first year of the CPL had problems with Pollard being captain, ahead of a Bajan, allyuh came to love him.
BTW, where ever Pollard went, I would had followed him, I believe that he could be a good at all formats, had he worked on his cricket, instead of settling for a power hitter.

 
allan 2016-12-29 10:05:13 

In reply to imusic
lets not be mundane in 2017..

 
Oilah 2016-12-29 10:29:04 

The return of Roach

 
robbo 2016-12-29 10:35:32 

In reply to Oilah

Do you think that he has it in him ?

 
Oilah 2016-12-29 10:56:55 

In reply to robbo

Yes...at his best he was a world class bowler...it appears he is gradually getting back there. He may never regain the blistering speed he had but he was never just speed he could move the ball and he has experience on his side. I think as long as he can play consistently and be injury free he will make it back into the test team. I am also sure he has read and heard the comments about "he dun stick a fork in him"...Roach got something to prove to himself and his naysayers

 
anandgb 2016-12-29 11:02:31 

In reply to imusic

Improvement (one "m" before p) in spelling for starters?
lol lol

Taking over from spuds?

 
natty_forever 2016-12-29 11:12:53 

In reply to openning

Lets look at the best Olympians in the region, excluding Jamaicans, these athletes train and live, where they can succeed, he believe by sending a young cricketer to an academy, on returning home, he should be a world class.
... it is because we now have "local track academies" that our athletes have now excelled to heights we now seeing. So think on this again.

 
robbo 2016-12-29 11:18:22 

In reply to Oilah

I hope you are right... the West Indies need a fully fit and back to his best ( or near to his best ) Roach.... I have to say I'm not convinced that he can do... I would love him to prove me wrong though !

In 2017 I hope a few pacers develop.... the only young one coming through at the moment is Joseph and he has some way to go yet.... the first half of the season has produced nothing and as usual spinners dominate the averages.

 
POINT 2016-12-29 12:54:30 

It seems that some people in this Post
failed Comprehension in School . I have laid out a comprehensive plan
regarding improving Cricket in the Region .

I invite all to read :

POINT - 12/28/16 - 7:14:58 PM .

My ideas regarding Improvement are there , I welcome the opinion of t
those who agree & those who disagree
. Feel free to inform me why you disagree or agree .

 
openning 2016-12-29 13:47:36 

In reply to POINT

You just don't get it
Each Island has to have its own academy, where cricketers can work 24/7, a Barbadian going to SVG academy and then returning home, with no place, coach, training facility to work on his game, will fail at the International level.
SVG need to have its own academy, with contracted players from your Island
Being a professional, means a player should be able to work at his game 24/7, it's no longer by playing road, gully, beach cricket or sending someone overseas for a short time.

 
methodic 2016-12-29 14:12:26 

In reply to allan

To be blatantly honest, I am not looking for any improvement. If there is improvement in any area I will be happy. Right now there is at least as good a chance that things can get worse.

 
natty_forever 2016-12-29 14:38:36 

In reply to openning... Would be nice but we don't need an academy in each territory. An Academy would be for emerging talent. The 90 on contract just need proper facilities

where cricketers can work 24/7
.

 
natty_forever 2016-12-29 14:39:12 

Yaad to win the PCL. big grin

 
POINT 2016-12-29 20:00:30 

Some People here are really Silly , Why take umbrage if I specifically
state that Promising Players must attend :

THE BEST CRICKET ACADEMIES IN

THE REGION .

Now What the Hell is wrong with that ?
Obviously some Academies are better than others . But apparently Some here
are against such a forward looking
idea , that can assist in making our
Players in the International Cricket
Arena fully competitive .

Yes I am fully aware that some people in this Forum only want the West Indies Team filled with only Players
from their specific Island . These
are people who should be shunned .

THE SAME 2 OR 3 FREAKING TEAMS ARE

WINNING THE REGIONAL TOURNAMENTS YEAR

AFTER YEAR . SOME MAY THINK THAT THIS

IS PROGRESS . I DO NOT & CANNOT SHARE

THAT ASININE BELIEF .

Because I believe that only when all the Teams in the Region are more or less on par with each other , can the
standard in the Region get higher .
Teams that are

 
openning 2016-12-29 21:22:35 

In reply to natty_forever
We are a group of Islands, different from one country, proper facilities need structure.
Point's idea is to send players to the best academies, what happen when these players return home?

Satellite academies are important for the development of players

 
openning 2016-12-29 21:28:48 

In reply to POINT

Yes I am fully aware that some people in this Forum only want the West Indies Team filled with only Players
from their specific Island . These
are people who should be shunned .


What do you think would had happened to Devon Smith or The Invisible man, if they were sent to an Academy?
Would they be able to worked on their game 24/7, when they return home?
Would they had the facility to harnessed their game?
Tell us or compare it to Cook, who belonged to county
Can you expand on how you will continue the development of a player, after his stint at an academy

 
openning 2016-12-29 22:02:05 

In reply to POINT
I really don't know how much junior cricket you follow, but any of our u-13, 15, 17 and U-19 teams can compete on the world stage
The problem is after the U-19 level, where players had to find 9-5jobs, then train during the club season for a few minutes three times a week.
Most youngsters in other countries are recruited from Junior high, they belong to county or professional clubs.
That system does not exist in the Caribbean, a young Emmanuel Stewart would be part of a county organization, if he was living in England, and may would debuted for that county, prior to his U-19 worlds
Cricket is a professional sport, the best players thru-out the region has to be able to work at it 24/7, that why I have respect for whats happening at TTCB and the BCA

 
POINT 2016-12-29 23:45:30 

In reply to openning

Let me again state some facts that you utterly refuse to consider and can never ever refute .

First of all Sensible persons would
acknowledge the following factors , before passing judgement .

JAMAICA ; GUYANA & TRINIDAD ARE

COMPARATIVELY LARGE COUNTRIES IN THE

REGION .

As a Result they are blessed with
large Tracts of flat lands , obviously this is very important to
have Cricket Fields .

BARBADOS UNLIKE MOST COUNTRIES IN THE

REGION IS MADE OF CORAL , AND IS

BLESSED WITH A LOT OF FLAT LANDS .

YOU have never ever considered this fact , in comparison to the Windward
& Leeward Islands which are mountainous , and some even have active volcanoes . This is an important factor , because there are a dearth of lands suitable to use as
Cricket Grounds .

YOU FAILED TO GRASP THE FACT THAT IN

THE DAYS WHEN THE ONLY MODE OF

TRANSPORTATION WAS SHIPS , THE FIRST

PORT OF CALL WAS BARBADOS .

Now in Jamaica ; Trinidad & Tobago .
Guyana & Barbados , there existed for
many years a HISTORY OF CLUBS , many
even having their own Cricket Grounds .
At one point Test Matches for years were only played in Jamaica ; Barbados ; Trinidad & Guyana . The
Players in the Windward & Leeward Islands for many years did not have
an opportunity to see Test Cricket ;
the Players were also deemed unfit to
be selected on the West Indies Team .

You I know will be likely to discard
these facts . YOU will also likely to
believe that they are trite when in fact they are very important in understanding why the Teams in the Windward & Leeward Islands are not as competitive as they can or should be .
You and others of your ilk refuse to also factor into the equation the
fact that the Windward & Leeward Islands ARE SEPARATE ISLANDS , and they have to deal with LOGISTICS .

I have cited several Players ,who were good enough to be in the West Indies Team , but were never given an opportunity to at least show their Skills .

I have always been very critical of the People in the WINDWARD ISLANDS CRICKET BOARD ; who as I have stated many times in this Forum are the Worst of the Worst Cricket Boards in the Region .

THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY REGRESSED

CRICKET IN THE WINDWARD ISLANDS BY

THEIR ASININE IDEA OF PREPARING FOR

THE REGIONAL TOURNAMENT BY HAVING

4 INNINGS CRAMMED INTO 2 DAYS OF

CRICKET . HOW IN GOD'S NAME CAN THE

WINDWARD ISLANDS BE FULLY COMPETITIVE

IN REGION CRICKET .

Now FYI , the Windward Islands Tournament used to be played over 4 days . It was then cut to 3 days & is
now 4 days .

THIS OBVIOUSLY MEANS THAT CRICKET IN

THE WINDWARD ISLANDS HAS SERIOUSLY

REGRESSED .

 
POINT 2016-12-30 00:08:52 

In reply to openning

Obviously Persons who played Cricket
in the so called "Big 4 " passed on their knowledge to youngsters . So tell me who the Hell did that for the
Windward & Leeward Islands when their Players were not considered to even
compete in Trials .

It is obvious at least to me that Countries that have in Cricket , a rich Club Structure , have a distinct
advantage over Players where most of the Cricket Fields are owned by the Governments , due to the terrain that
aint conducive to having flat lands
to make Cricket Grounds .

You have also failed to acknowledge
that from an Financial perspective ,
the Windward & Leeward Islands cannot compete with the " Big 4 " so their
Players will be less competitive than
Jamaica ; Trinidad & Tobago ; Barbados & Guyana . But that to you &
others in the Countries I have mentioned above unfortunately means absolutely nothing .

INSULARITY REIGNS SUPREME ; LONG

LIVE INSULARITY IN THE REGION . YET

WE FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM EVERY

PERSPECTIVE , ECONOMIC , ETC , IS

PRECISELY WHY INDIVIDUALLY WE ARE

RUNNING VERY FAST & FINDING OURSELVES

IN THE SAME FREAKING PLACE . WHY ??

BECAUSE WE ARE BLINDED INDIVIDUALLY

BY OUR COLOSSAL INSULARITY .

 
openning 2016-12-30 00:50:22 

In reply to POINT

Point this is the end of 2016, you are the only poster from the Windwards, that don't understand, what is needed.
I doubt when regional boards have annual meetings, they speak of developing players for another Island.
SVG like any Island want to place players on the West Indies team, the U-19 training camp was just held in Grenada, SVG hosted a tournament this year, so you have the facility to develop players.
A youngster from SVG, should be able to work on his game 24/7, thats the only way, he can be successful
BTW, I do have problems with the BCA, but they were smart to used lotto money to finance cricket, nd offer contract to a number of men and women who were not contracted by the WICB.

 
natty_forever 2016-12-30 09:05:31 

In reply to openning... when they reach home they now have a "professional" league to play in.


POINT thinks the boards can all do this

but they were smart to used lotto money to finance cricket

 
POINT 2016-12-30 09:34:46 

In reply to natty_forever

Look the Windward Islands consist of
4 Islands , Dominica ; St. Lucia ;
St. Vincent & Grenada .

EACH OF THESE ISLANDS HAVE THEIR OWN

CRICKET BOARDS . WHAT THE HELL

PREVENTS THESE INDIVIDUAL CRICKET

BOARDS FROM RAISING FUNDS TO ENSURE

THAT THE WINDWARD ISLANDS CRICKET

BOARD HAS FUNDS MAKE THE WINDWARD

ISLANDS TOURNAMENT BE PLAYED OVER

4 FREAKING DAYS ????

I have not heard that the respective
Governments in the Windward Islands
have banned their Cricket Boards from raising Funds . If you have heard that please inform me .

The Cricket Boards like most Cricket
Boards in the Region , including the WICBC are populated with persons whose only interest is Self Preservation . Nothing else matters to these Jokers .

 
POINT 2016-12-30 09:38:09 

In reply to openning

Why have you failed to specifically addressed the Issues that I have raised ?????

Instead you relish diverting to other Issues . This informs me that you are
unable to admit that what I have stated is grounded in FACTS ; not
Fiction .

 
natty_forever 2016-12-30 10:25:34 

In reply to POINT... I too believe where there is a will ...

 
POINT 2016-12-30 11:50:06 

In reply to natty_forever

I have no doubt that the Windward Islands Governments would help Financially , but THe BUMS refuse to make an effort .

They are only interested in Self Preservation . I know for a fact that at one time , Business Houses used to donate Prizes when the Tournament was held in SVG & the Windward Island Tournaments was of 4 days duration .

These are the people killing Cricket while their Sycophants in this Forum
continuously blame only the Players .

 
openning 2016-12-30 17:00:40 

In reply to POINT

You I know will be likely to discard
these facts . YOU will also likely to
believe that they are trite when in fact they are very important in understanding why the Teams in the Windward & Leeward Islands are not as competitive as they can or should be .
You and others of your ilk refuse to also factor into the equation the
fact that the Windward & Leeward Islands ARE SEPARATE ISLANDS , and they have to deal with LOGISTICS


Why was the Leewards so competitive in the late 70's & 80's, producing some of the greatest cricketers in the world?
I've been to Antigua several times, I have seen Stanford ground, Sir Viv stadium and the recreational ground, these grounds and many more in the Island of Antigua are not on hills
What has happened since the professionalization of the games, the region relied on the natural talent of the players, and is not catching up.
That's why each Island my find a way to continue the development of players, after the U-19 level.
That means a youngster from SVG, should be able to work at cricket 24/7.

 
Norm 2016-12-31 02:39:01 

The complete absence of Dave and Wavell from WI cricket for the next 50 years ... concurrently and continuously.

 
POINT 2016-12-31 20:33:53 

In reply to Norm

I hear You , but there will still be other Rotten Eggs in the WICBC . My
take is that there must be a complete
restructuring of the Entity , of the
Regional Boards & also the WICBC .

BTW , I find it interesting that the
GCB was hauled into Court , despite
the fact that they claim to be a Private Entity .

The Trinidad & Tobago Cricket Board
are now also in Court . So this idea
that Private Entities cannot be hauled into Court is pure B.S .

It is astounding that some people believe that because the WICBC is a
Private Entity , it can do anything it wants , and WE must forever put up
with its B.S .

 
openning 2016-12-31 22:10:49 

In reply to POINT

Anyone can take a corporation to court, even you for being #8 in the test ranking.