Moravian Minister with 15 year old girl

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link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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12/30/16 6:39:34 PM 
Bravos, when I saw this story I thought it was a recounting of the Trinidad story of a month or so ago.

Link here

These men should be shown no leniency.

link XFactor Joined: Nov 5, 2005
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12/30/16 11:13:33 PM 
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Why do you find this so awful, when the molestation rate amongst Christian Pastors is far lower than the general population?

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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12/31/16 5:20:08 AM 
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Why do you defend this crap?

This is disgusting

link black Joined: Feb 28, 2004
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12/31/16 7:28:01 AM 
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Why do you defend this crap?

This is disgusting


Some people look at this as an attack on their religion, it's not an attack on religion, it's criminal behavior and should be treated as such.

When it became known that children were being molested in the Catholic Church, the authorities move too slowly, allowing the Church to hide these criminals by moving them to different dioceses and dragging their feet with information.

Whenever crimes are committed, law enforcement should move in right away and take control of the investigation.

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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12/31/16 8:45:48 AM 
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the molestation rate amongst Christian Pastors is far lower than the general population?


Good point!

I will withhold further comment until the Christian pastors catch up. They may be old but it seems they have more opportunities (to abuse) so I expect them to catch up quickly. evil

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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12/31/16 8:49:28 AM 
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it's criminal behavior and should be treated as such.


I hope they quickly learn the meaning of statutory rape.

link Ridge Joined: Jan 30, 2004
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12/31/16 8:53:59 AM 
Only in Jamaica.
The world capital for crime. cry

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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12/31/16 8:57:04 AM 
In reply to Ridge

Only in Jamaica.
The world capital for crime.

Wasn't there a similar story reported for T&T a couple weeks ago?

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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12/31/16 9:06:18 AM 
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All of us are concerned with crime, especially when perpetrated by those who take advantage of positions of trust.

Ridge's concern just happens to be accompanied by a separate agenda.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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12/31/16 9:28:03 AM 
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Precisely - look my favourite cousin was President of the Moravian Church - I'm glad he didn't live to see this.

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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12/31/16 10:40:16 AM 
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Let the man have his day in court before we jump to a conclusion. Remember O.J. Simpson? Some on this thread blasting the pastor even celebrated the 20th anniversary of that day.

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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12/31/16 10:55:21 AM 
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and the little girl? I am a youth coach ,one the rules of the club is " never be alone with a kid" rolleyes

link bravos Joined: Oct 14, 2009
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12/31/16 11:20:08 AM 
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Yeah and I know a Yahweh man who does the same here,he always buying new van every series too!! Have new Ranger and new Hilux over 300k TT each with every possible useless and vain extra..always robbing his lil uneducated flock and always trying to screw poor women and their teen daughters in the countryside after giving them peanuts,man was getting like my padna and tell me some real twisted things bout men women and business dat not even ah ole gyalist businessman like me go even fathom,that helped me to make my move.I was a Yahweh man for about 2 years!! Then I realize de man wanta bull anything that move and always on some under low vibes and always on the money,his collections are like auctions as he tries to increase it,"who have a $40 again,$50...who saying $100"...man dem need some bible chop lol...j/k....but I'm sick of them and they should be scrutinized and regulated...

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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12/31/16 11:40:00 AM 
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Religious charlatans. One was recently exposed in Bim. He was so righteous that he led a breakaway faction of his church. The original church was not 'strict' enough for him.

BTW there was a pastor in Puna who used to have a foreign exchange collection. big grin

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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12/31/16 11:47:33 AM 
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foreign exchange collection


lol lol lol

link bravos Joined: Oct 14, 2009
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12/31/16 11:49:40 AM 
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You know them well lol...it's so sad that in the 21st century people taking dat ride..people love to be ridden..and it's all a reflection of the selfishness that has pervaded society,it's all about 'blessings' and the idiots feel they can purchase them,and the pastors selling them..ie 'financial services','business services' etc..man I get ketch wid dat and started putting down thousands,and when I look around de man driving better van dan me and my big son!!...never me again...lol poor dem..

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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12/31/16 11:57:25 AM 
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What happens in court is a legal matter. I can only hope he is convicted of statutory rape.

What was happening in his parked car was abuse of a minor. Are you suggesting that he was giving the child religious lessons?

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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12/31/16 4:19:54 PM 
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I am not defending the man. Did you see him molesting the young lady?

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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12/31/16 6:25:02 PM 
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What happens in court is a legal matter. I can only hope he is convicted of statutory rape.


I thought that was the purpose of the criminal trial? Unless I am giving evidence in court what is the legal relevance of your question?

BTW whether or not you are defending him is irrelevant and will not affect the price of chicken wings in Princess St.

What is relevant is that he was found by the police in a compromising position when he should have been in a position of trust. Do you find that difficult to understand?

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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1/1/17 7:55:46 AM 
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I understand the situation looks terrible and if he is guilty he should be dealt with harshly.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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1/1/17 8:27:11 AM 
5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 6 From among these arise men who slyly work their way into households and captivate weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.


2Timothy 3:5-7.

Cannot be any clearer.

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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1/1/17 10:46:24 AM 
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Cannot be any clearer.


My friend put down the bible and think. These are not
weak women loaded down with sins
. If the pastors were having relationships with
weak women loaded down with sins
I for one would not care a flying duck.


My sole concern is that these so called leaders and authority figures are preying on minors.

BTW In my world minors are not the same as 'weak women loaded down with sins'.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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1/1/17 3:38:02 PM 
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Am not sure what your point is...would you consider a child to be weaker than a grown woman...is the scripture referring to women particularly or just that people will prey on the weak even while presenting themselves as a protector.
You all act like this is new. Politicians do it, Coaches do it, teachers do it. All demented people.

There also is an overwhelming suggestion that because someone says he represents God that it is so.

21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’


Matthew 7:21-23.

link XDFIX Joined: Mar 2, 2003
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1/1/17 4:10:37 PM 
It happens in all professions and ought to be condemned!

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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1/1/17 4:24:24 PM 
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My sole concern is that these so called leaders and authority figures are preying on minors.


You're still not sure what my point is?

The fact that the perpetrator is a man who should be instilling moral values in children makes the crime even worse. I hope the judge is someone with similar views to mine.


It seems your point is to misuse scriptures to obfuscate the fact that the S.O.B. was a pastor.

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