Switzerland wins a case against Muslim parents

link Khaga Joined: Mar 29, 2016
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1/10/17 12:19:28 PM 

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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1/10/17 12:35:25 PM 
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I agree with this ruling, muslims need to adhere to the laws of the lands that they live in. cool

link Emir Joined: Aug 9, 2014
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1/10/17 12:58:14 PM 
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The court also noted that "very flexible arrangements" had been offered as a compromise, including allowing the girls to wear burkinis during lessons rather than traditional swimwear, and allowing them to change clothes with no boys in the room.


Do you know if boys and girls use the same change room in Switzerland? Perhaps it is sloppy writing, but the article seem to allude to this.

link Khaga Joined: Mar 29, 2016
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1/10/17 1:01:16 PM 
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That's your public face. Hope you say the same thing in your community too..

link Emir Joined: Aug 9, 2014
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1/10/17 1:09:40 PM 
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I agree with this ruling



In the USA many radical evangelical fundamentalist fight the education boards for requiring students to study subjects such as comparative religion, yoga, marriage equality, and evolution.

Do you also support these parents being forced by a court to have their children attend those classes. because in the US, parents are allowed to withdraw their child based on religious convictions.

You cannot both uphold the virtues that we hold sacred in this country while at the same time supporting the Swiss govt in the particular case.

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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1/10/17 1:21:12 PM 
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Wow dude
Do you know me, how can you come to such a conclusion?

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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1/10/17 1:30:02 PM 
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Are those laws? cool

link Emir Joined: Aug 9, 2014
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1/10/17 1:40:03 PM 
In reply to Runs

In Switzerland it was not the law, but the bigger point is one of parental rights.

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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1/10/17 2:18:23 PM 
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I re-iterate that muslims have to follow the laws of the land, if they disagree then they need to come together and have favorable laws as per their cause legislated cool
Until they can have this they need to follow and should face penalties as per the law if they do not abide. No gray area here for me.

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1/10/17 10:22:14 PM 
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President Obama: I reject discrimination against Muslim Americans who are just as patriotic as we are. cool

link Commie Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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1/10/17 10:29:33 PM 
The key is the American part.

The ordinary Muslim has been bombed to smithereens under Obama and every other American president since Bush senior.

The Muslim American is a cherished part of the American democracy. Go figure.

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1/10/17 10:32:12 PM 
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True cool

link Emir Joined: Aug 9, 2014
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1/10/17 10:48:30 PM 
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I re-iterate that muslims have to follow the laws of the land

Everyone not only Muslims, must follow the law of the land.

This issue is about parental rights, not some autocratic laws as you are reading it. I tried to clue you in to the intellectual argument about this issue, but you fail to grasp it.

So long.

link black Joined: Feb 28, 2004
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1/10/17 11:01:57 PM 
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This is more a problem of integration, Europe is beginning to see Muslims that are not integrated as a threat. The more integrated they are, the less likely they will hold Anti-European sentiments.

link Kay Joined: Feb 1, 2015
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1/11/17 11:23:48 AM 
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This is more a problem of integration, Europe is beginning to see Muslims that are not integrated as a threat. The more integrated they are, the less likely they will hold Anti-European sentiments.

This is a free lesson Canada has been offering to the world for the longest while .. only few if any are grasping it.

No one would dare invite and embrace 35,000 Syrians in their country in this day and age....

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1/11/17 1:10:20 PM 
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This is more a problem of integration, Europe is beginning to see Muslims that are not integrated as a threat. The more integrated they are, the less likely they will hold Anti-European sentiments.


Finally, you write something that merits debate and is sensible even if not 100 percent accurate. This is a welcome from you and I hope you don't go back to hate, illicit sexual materials and all the other crap you post her.

Now on to your post.

Look, non European and no christian immigrants to the USA and Canada have shown to fully integrate within two generations- This is b/c America and Canada are also immigrant countries and neither was an old world colonizer.

Immigrants- old one and new ones add to the ever evolving culture and tapestry that is the USA

In Europe the situation is different: those European countries that immigrants flock to are mostly former colonizers and invaders of the land of those immigrants. Moreover, Europe owe a significant part of their wealth and development to colonization, imperialism, slavery and free markets.

Europe does not have a free notion of integration, you either who accept their culture or live in the margins- never mind these same European countries imposed their culture when they invaded, yet, when these immigrants enter Europe, they are expected to adopt immediately.

Europe must change a little and she cannot turn back now.

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1/12/17 3:56:50 PM 
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Integration - UK style.

link Khaga Joined: Mar 29, 2016
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1/12/17 7:30:37 PM 
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Made for each other.. lol

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