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analyst-kid 2017-02-08 19:26:24 

Call him big or whatever....I just like to see him batting and bowling!

 
jen 2017-02-08 20:07:15 

In reply to analyst-kid

Cornwall looks to be the best #6 we have right now, really impress with him this tournament. First time i've seen his game live for couple years. He has really made some big improvements. I remember him in previous caribbean T20 editions when he just started, he struggled to get the ball off the square. Now, he has a wicked front foot drive over long off to pacers hitting good speeds of a good length.

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-08 20:51:10 

I made a few comments already about size and sports.

If players are playing good at their size leave them.

Javier Sotomayor was a fatty well into his high jumping career.

Bubka was once told play soccer you are too short for pole vaulting.

Lara was never a hard body.

Locally...I saw us take an OECS MVP in soccer, put him in the gym and he was never the same again.

Moral....do not Tinker with Good things.

LEAVE CORNWALL ALONE effing WICB.

 
cherri 2017-02-08 20:56:35 

Oh dear, leave Cornwall effing alone.........he ent no roti belly, nor he doan live at chefette,........so back off.......

 
openning 2017-02-08 20:59:29 

In reply to cherri

lol lol

 
Kay 2017-02-08 21:00:59 

Yeah ... de man surely pulling his weight smile

 
jen 2017-02-08 21:23:16 

In reply to Tagwa1

quite right tagwa, weight don't mean squat. He just need to be at a weight range that doesn't allow him to get fatigue. So if he can run singles and not lose concentration with 300 lbs then so be it. Freddie Flintoff was more on the heavier side for fast bowlers, but he was damn brilliant. Inzimam ul haq, fatso, but a real badman with the bat. Too bad it didn't help the run outs though lol lol lol

 
jacksparrow 2017-02-08 21:29:57 

Baby Face was brilliant in this chase, calm all the way through, almost lost it near the end though when he was trying to end the game in style!

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-08 21:32:06 

In reply to jen

I cannot agree with Tagwa and you here. He can dominate this level fine but he will be severely tested and found wanting at the next level if he is not in optimum shape. Inzi was never at Rakheem's weight which is probably 300 plus so let us put that baby to rest. Link Text

Remember you are traveling all over the globe and playing in different conditions and that is a very demanding ask for any athlete. Get it down to a manageable 40lbs less.

I am a big Jimbo fan but he needs to get his weight to a manageable weight.

 
robbo 2017-02-09 06:03:41 

In reply to voiceofreason

I concur

 
Gun_Play 2017-02-09 11:02:47 

In reply to voiceofreason

He seems impressive when balls are pitched up to him.

I want to see him against quick short bowling.

No one is going to pitch balls up to him at International level, just like pollard.

 
sunfish 2017-02-09 11:36:56 

Overweight folk are susceptible to strokes and heart conditions. These are good reasons why Rakeem should loose weight. His oversize is not healthy period! I don't want to see him collapse while taking a quick single.

Also, If he appears on the international stage he will be the subject of sarcastic jokes by the comms and a less forgiving wider audience.

And, his figure does not look good on TV mainly because his chests resemble budding bubbies. Rakeem has talent but it's contained in the wrong physique.

Chisel your body Rakeem so you can concentrate on putting a fleet foot on the opposition's throat.

[edited]

 
yardman83 2017-02-09 11:39:51 

In reply to voiceofreason

I agree... plus Inzi was always susceptible to runouts. They will pepper him with the short stuff!

 
Dizzy 2017-02-09 12:48:34 

In reply to Gun_Play

Short bowling has been dealt with adequately so far; Delorn Johnson was smacked one bounce for four and in an earlier game someone was hooked for six. Cornwall grew up as a number 3/4 batsman.

 
DIEHARD 2017-02-09 13:27:04 

In reply to jen

Cornwall looks to be the best #6 we have right now,


Co sign

 
DIEHARD 2017-02-09 13:27:05 

In reply to jen

Cornwall looks to be the best #6 we have right now,


Co sign

 
mikesiva 2017-02-10 13:19:14 

In reply to voiceofreason

In limited overs cricket you also have to be a good fielder. With his weight issues Cornwall is the least mobile fielder in this tournament. He needs to take this programme they plan to put him on very seriously.

Kadeem Phillip looks like he shares the same diet. Are they related?
razz

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-10 13:40:09 

In reply to sunfish

Overweight folk are susceptible to strokes and heart condition


Sunfish you parroting Western BS my friend. Much of this is being debunked by almost every serious study. People with underlying conditions..thin, fat or in between are susceptible to strokes and heart conditions

Go to South Seas, big and fat grandmothers and pappas, healthy as shit pushing 90+. As a matter of fact in many cases fat people live longer as they get older since they are better as a group at withstanding acute illnesses. My own neighbour was over 300 all her life...made it to 95.

These are the same people that told us coconut oil nah good and it give cholesterol and shyte, in order to promote their chemically made canola oils and we bought it.

Now unnu in Cornwall rass..leave the kid..as long as his stats and cricket is good he don't have to change shyte.

 
matchstick 2017-02-10 13:44:42 

In reply to Tagwa1

If players are playing good at their size leave them.


Let me fix that statement



If players are playing good, at a current level & at their size leave them there.

 
matchstick 2017-02-10 13:48:58 

In reply to voiceofreason

He can dominate this level fine but he will be severely tested and found wanting at the next level if he is not in optimum shape.


The best of cricketers go through rough patches. Even if he starts off good, the first thing they will pick on is his fitness once that comes around.

Good players in OK shape like Rampaul and Sarwan were being picked on for this. Why does anyone think Cornwall will be exempted is mind boggling!

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-10 14:02:30 

In reply to matchstick

Ok so he is good at this level. He excelled for WI A versus SL A. So what we need to do is put him on a diet and exercise plan so that he can go to the next level. (Thats what you and VOR saying)

But who says that your exercise and diet plan and personal specialist but in by WICB wont make him WORSE?

NO you have to focus on the guys cricket and make him FIT to play cricket.

IF he stays FAT and FIT leave it alone.

Guys I once thought like you guys. I saw it fail over and over.

It failed us bypassing one of the best seamers we had in Ravi.
We banished Sarwan for the same reason and was never able to get anyone to replace him.

Cricketers comes in all shape and sizes and quite a few of the great ones were fat.

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-10 14:18:28 

In reply to Tagwa1


It failed us bypassing one of the best seamers we had in Ravi.
We banished Sarwan for the same reason and was never able to get anyone to replace him


Those players sustained multiple injuries did they not? Why do you think that they sustained those injuries on such a regular basis?

Cricket is one of the few sports played mostly on multiple continents...Meaning you could be in Asia one month, Australia the next and Europe another. It is very demanding on the body and it requires that you have to be fit physically to have a long successful career. If you think the criticism and ridicule is hard at this level, just imagine the English or Australian press when they get going on the youth. Not only would that be humiliating but it could also lead to suicidal issues if he is not mentally strong enough to handle the blows.

It is worth trying another program to see how his body responds to it and get him to 20-40 lbs leaner so he will be ready for the rigors of an international career. He would be better for it.

 
tc1 2017-02-10 18:01:29 

In reply to Tagwa1

Are they playing sport at a high level

 
matchstick 2017-02-10 19:24:43 

In reply to Tagwa1

So what we need to do is put him on a diet and exercise plan so that he can go to the next level. (Thats what you and VOR saying)


We don't have to do anything.... he has to want it and do it himself...

 
SirGarny 2017-02-10 21:14:14 

In reply to jen

He has really made some big improvements.


Meaning he can polish off a 2nd plate of food without difficulty?

(Sorry...couldn't resist)

wink surprised big grin

 
positiveg 2017-02-10 21:20:27 

In reply to SirGarny

lol lol lol

 
SirGarny 2017-02-11 01:12:58 

In reply to positiveg

I just watched a video clip of his innings...clean strokes...a boundary-laced 74* from 50...

Cornwall can certainly bat..but can a man that size be taken seriously in international cricket? Would it not be a huge embarrassment?

Can't someone convince him to lose the weight? This is not even a cricket issue but one of basic health!

But then again...if Cornwall was wearing shoulder pads and a helmet and playing professional football in the US, his size would matter a lot less...

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-23 19:42:52 

In reply to SirGarny

Cornwall can certainly bat..but can a man that size be taken seriously in international cricket? Would it not be a huge embarrassment?


Ok lemme play this game...

What if a fat man is making runs and a thin man is making ducks.
Who would be taken more serious?

Cricket is not Chris Christy running for US President.. Coming to think about it we really shoulda supported Christy...but thats another story.

To be taken seriously in cricket you have three options.

1.. Make runs
2.. Take Wickets
3.. Field well.

Everything else is BS.

In fact you only have to do one really well.

Just one. Fat, Thin, Short, Tall, Black, White, Ugly, Pretty, it doesn't matter.

 
openning 2017-02-23 20:01:59 

In reply to Tagwa1

Cornwall will be expose in the field at the International level
Other than fielding in the slips, he will be expose by most International teams.

 
anandgb 2017-02-23 20:19:11 

In reply to matchstick

If players are playing good, at a current level & at their size leave them there.
lol lol lol

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-23 20:24:02 

In reply to openning

How much wicket or runs they get for "exposing" him?


When he took 8 wickets in his international outing in SL how exposed was he?

If cornwal cant play international cricket he cant play but not judging by his cricket and instead by his weight is moronic and infantile.

People as Cornwall hear it all their lives.

weight till he reach parish cricket, weight till he reach school cricket, weight till he reach U19, weight till he reach national, regional....now its weight till he reach International.

wait I kept saying weight.....lol.

Which he already has and did fine..very fine.

Mad dem Fat man.

 
openning 2017-02-23 20:35:12 

In reply to Tagwa1

I

f cornwal cant play international cricket he cant play but not judging by his cricket and instead by his weight is moronic and infantile.

Cornwall will be expose in the field at the International level
Other than fielding in the slips, he will be expose by most International teams when fielding
There are limits to where you field him in the two faster formats.
Cricket is not only bowling and batting, fielding including running after balls, diving to take catches or stopping singles is important.

 
methodic 2017-02-23 21:38:13 

if West Indies pick Cornwall and he fails badly, ICC might take away the full membership of West Indies.

 
johndom90 2017-02-23 23:54:50 

In reply to openning

He will leak runs in the field and be targeted by batting sharpshooters...not just for boundaries, but quick singles to reduce pressure, rotate strike etc.

 
Baje 2017-02-24 01:19:14 

If his contributions with bat and ball outweigh deficiencies in the field, then he has to play