When I see every Tom, Dick, Harry and idiot talking about the stock market and how rich they are getting, I know it's time to get out.
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In reply to Darkness
buying frenzy...
In reply to Darkness
cosign +++
I honestly don't see how folk with sub 50k to play with can make SERIOUS money in the stock markets. 1. The risk is so high for "part-time" investors like me that do not have the time for micro-management. simply daunting. and 2. getting in on IPO is hard as fack!
My total stock based investment in all units is under 20k USD with real returns around 7% - but this after many spectacular failures. So I completely agree with you. I am not embarrassed to say stock market investments did not work for me personally: under performed!
The only area that outperforms for me [personally] is real estate.
Stock markets require mico-management to get wealthy from, and unless you get in early on big players.... and that is hard as shite to do.
Not sure the motivation for this post Netflix debut at $15. Per share in 2002
Its gains since its 2002 IPO amount to about 8,000%, meaning that for every $1,000 you originally invested, you'd have $81,000 now
.. this is just a sample ---- there have been numerous stocks with that kind of performance -------
In reply to birdseye
Thx for making my point
In reply to Darkness
In reply to birdseye
What do you say to this point?
In reply to pelon
Its a long term play, you can't prematurely pull out after getting hit. Stay the course.
In reply to Headley
Facebook's IPO price was $38 a share when the company started trading in May 2012. But the stock fell over $20 from the IPO price to $17.55 per share on Sept. 4, 2012.
In reply to birdseye
The question is not about volatility. It's accessibility to purchase IPOs. It seems that once the IPO is attractive accessibility becomes an issue.
In reply to pelon
I investing in popcorn and news outlets.
Trump going keep us watching more news than ever.
In reply to Headley
If you have an online stock trading account and you know what the symbol for the IPO is going to be you can put your request to buy the IPO as you would with any other security you might not get the stock at the price some insider would but you will get a quote and its incumbent on you to accept the security at that price or not
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invariable why some get favorable treatment in IPO is because they provided seed money for the product development Like Bono, the lead singer of U2 he seeded facebook to the tune of $400,000 and was rewarded with 1 billion dollars of facebook IPO shares ---- so that is one way to get in on an IPO
In reply to nick2020
In reply to Emir
you should not have been there
In reply to pelon
Couldn't disagree more. The majority of people are just gambling. Invest for the LONG TERM in proven mutual funds and blue chip stocks. It won't matter if the market crashes in the near term. You simply CANNOT time it.
I know of folks who got out of the market last year expecting a crash-in that time I'm up 50%.
Gambling is fine(I fo it all the ttime)but don't delude yourself into thinking you are doing something else.
In reply to 1Desiabnu
You and I are on the same page. The majority are gambling, and many losing... which is to the point of this thread.
Also, I agree 100% that the way to go in the market is long term with mutual funds/bc.
I am not at all in disagreement there, and not sure why you read me otherwise. What I did state is that my experiments in stocks failed to show returns comparable to my real estate investments.
What I stated is that I failed in the micro-management of the stocks I held for trading (OTHER than BC/MF) - I thought this thread was more about TRADING not holding.
Cheers.
In reply to Headley
If the IPO is attractive no ordinary guy getting in, the underwriters share it up among their preferred customers.
Dasheen stocks have always grown for me.
What is awesome is that you can consume them. Crayfish stocks are even better as they are limited in quantity but extremely valuable and can be hoarded.
Choose your investments wisely.
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