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In reply to Narper

Fuck Trump,I don't care to possess a US visa or do business in the US ever again,even before this..

UK/Europe next flight out!!

In reply to bravos

This is what happens when you ask people with limited abilities to make decision ---- now we can understand why the judges knock down the ban ---- if the word Iran, Syria, etc. shows up – then the answer is an automatic NO! -------- that kind of absolutism makes no sense.

In reply to bravos

awww..we will miss you..is there anything we can do to make you reconsider?

In reply to Khaga

I have options and I don't care to be missed...and if you're really in a position to make that comment to a very productive paying customer then clearly you lack the basic fundamentals to manage or grow business prospects let alone make a positive contribution to 'your' country..very familiar..

It's much easier and now even cheaper to deal in the UK and Europe as we have proper trade channels,I cannot control how I'm treated as a good customer but I can control where I choose to patronize.

This is no empty rant,I have my invoices,your scope is very limited,familiar?

In reply to birdseye

Leff dem nah,the sheepism is in full retard mode now..now sheep do more than just go 'baaaa'...they feel empowered..

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No one is immune to the Trump's orders .... Who is Yorke?

How fu#king retarded is this? Seriously.

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ICE NY raid, Guyanese, Jamaican and Trinidadians picked up

In reply to Devin

I will state it here again.

Americans are inherently stupid and such stupidity does not discriminate.

I was asked by a real estate agent in McAllen, Texas if they have real banks in Canada. This was a serious question.

Can you picture any Canadian professional asking if they have real banks in the USA?

In reply to Star

And you use such an encounter to generalize and paint an entire nation with a broad brush? Begs the question who is really the stupid one?

In reply to Runs

Lash Star!

In reply to Star

Third world idiots build themselves up by thinking all Americans are stupid and need boat riders to help them..

Americans are stupid but the bright ones from third world countries flock here to enjoy the fruits of our stupidity.

Strange.

In reply to Runs
No reason for me to get into any further discussion here.

I spent more than half of my professional life living and teaching in the USA.

I am well aware of what I stated.

In reply to Kay

They could've easily google him if they really wanted to know..

In reply to bravos

You tell ‘em Bravos, no need to leave yuh land of sweets and honeys.

And don’t let them friken you with stories that gangs are now imposing the laws of the land.

Maan, you living in paradise.

BTW business must be booming with the razor wire fences.

In reply to Runs

Critical thinking is required to grasp the generality.

All humans are hardwired for stupidity. It is what you do to evolve from that stupidity.

Try living and working in some of those small towns away from the metropoles.

Suggested reading: Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking Fast and Slow"

In reply to XFactor

I definitely live in Paradise yuh facter...most who get killed in dey ting,the % of innocent people that get killed here may be actually less than in the states where no fence spikes can prevent your doctor,teacher,judge,co-worker,bus driver,'model husband/father',fellow student,police officer,'model student' or 'quiet decent guy' to be your murderer be it at the mall,clinic,workplace,cinema,restaurant,park,street etc,gimme T&T any day as long as I walk on the right side and live a positive productive life I should be fine,and movie mall and restaurant days would never be days looking over my shoulder for the next killer..

In reply to Runs

O skunt...for DUI too?

Plenty WI bars in NY will close down soon

In reply to Narper

Before T peeps were deported for jumping subway turnstyle, urinating in public etc. These laws have always been there and peeps were always being deported.

In reply to Narper

Crazy on steroids - they are violating the court order

In reply to Chrissy

You really think any one can enter a country, if the border people don't like something about you?
People are denied every day, The Donald just expose it, with his policy.

In reply to openning

But they can at least try to verify with very easy to access information streams..

In reply to openning


One result of the Trump reign is that men in uniform rule whether its black at the border, blue within and cold as Ice.

Ice agents are on the NY subway, in plainclothes during rush hour. I just got a note from a good source verifying.

How in hell do they differentiated undocumented during rush hour? How do they do it? figure out of black, white, brown, yellow people...who are the undocumented? This country is fast becoming if not already, like the old soviet union that was mocked for locking down its citizens behind the iron curtain.

This land of the free and home of the brave, where keystrokes, emails, telephone conversations, facial recognition, cameras, financial information, can all be accessed under the mantra of Homeland security...full stop....Man woman child, assets can be seized at the slightest suspicion. If this is not a throwback to the old Soviet union, East Germany, I don't know what it.

In reply to johndom90

That is a serious question when the majority of undocumented are not "black", "brown" or "yellow".

In reply to Runs

I

19 Bajans too


I have clients in the USA honestly scared of this nonsense...some who have gained citizenship but preferred to marry West Indians are nervous as ever cause their spouses "previous rights" without the official stamp of citizen in place has several on edge...

clearly this is not on all fours.

In reply to johndom90

Thank you brother.

Pay no mind to the mindless

It's just a temporary lapse he's having,wait till he sees how many decent Bajans are being rounded up too and his eyes would really open..

Our friend thinks that Trump sees Bim and Bajans as 'first world' ,lol..

In reply to Runs

are these folks American citizens? can the govn't deport an American citizen?

In reply to Runs

All illegals who are criminals.

In reply to jcveletta

No, these are illegals with criminal records, time served or not served. A naturalized citizen can be deported for committing acts of treason.

In reply to steveo

Yep, but when they raid businesses etc they will ensnare illegals without criminal records. If you use a fake ss # for employment that is a crime. Immigration lawyers are going even so far as to suggest if you are within 100 miles of any border, if you are a greencard holder or naturalized citizen you should have proof of it on you to eliminate unnecessary problems. They are targetting immigrant neighborhoods and as some have said the hope is that they will be fair and also target the Eastern European neighborhoods here in NY also. I heard this week they were in Richmond Hills, Queens going into businesses on Liberty Avenue.

In reply to Runs

No. Not true.

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Trust me they can be stripped of citizenship
One of the more common ways in which the revocation provisions are applied is against a naturalized citizen who is found to have participated in persecution or genocide, or to have been involved with the Nazi party, the Communist party, or a terrorist organization. That person may be subject to revocation of citizenship on the grounds that he or she concealed a lack of attachment to the U.S. Constitution.

In reply to Runs

Yes, technically but the way you simplified it- you stressed "naturalized" and the way you casually stated it is mis-leading

Before a person (US born or foreign born) can be stripped of her citizenship- it will take years and the US Supreme Court will have the final say.

In reply to Emir

Lol surely you got my point and are not arguing the nuances of it? What a guy
The poster asked a question and I responded end of story

In reply to Emir

Four Pakistani born US naturalized citizens were just deported to Pakistan.

That did not take years or involved the US Supreme Court.

You all blaming Trump, but you know, the law that affected Yorke was one which Obama implemented in December 2015.

Read before you post shyte you don't know about

In reply to ToTrini

To say that the law is and always be, an asson most occasions is still true. Yorke played a charity soccer game in 2015 Iran...if reports are true.
Are ww to assume that the 25..26 i ternational legends...referees...other goodwill personnel in that game are banned from entering the us.

The law is an asd but this is a racehorse of an ass.

In reply to Star

They were Green Card Holders

In reply to ToTrini

Yes but the Trump effect made them enforce it on a guy like Dwight,are the immigration authorities beyond google or basic research? This didn't have to go down that way and only did because of the pervading divisiveness and darkness facilitated by Trump..

Research some of the worst dictatorships and see how they were in their early stages,see how they treated normal decent well known people and establishments,when a man like Yorke can be turned back for visiting Iran you not doing your job as an authority,you just labeling based on ethnicity/appearance/nationality etc and that's scary,it is you sir that needs to be enlightened...

In reply to bravos

Word bro

You guys are incredible.

Trump ban is lifted. Obama law is being followed in this instance.

It is stupid that they did this to Yorker, but a google search don't overrule an enforceable law.

Sometimes because we hate so much we refuse to accept the truth.

In reply to Emir

Correct. My apologies to you Sir.

I was thinking about the Rochdale grooming gang rape case in the UK.

In reply to ToTrini

Not the Trump ban man,maybe you haven't read my comment properly...

In reply to Runs

Man playing dumb jes so,lol..

In reply to Runs

I find this one most interesting.

Now, after he is deported, will the family neglect continue?

The other interesting item is the number of El Salvadorians on the list. The question arises about the known that El Salvadorians were a 'protected' set after being brought here as part of the deal for ending the Salvadorian Marxist war.

In reply to Drapsey

Hmmmm....

In reply to bravos

It beyond any formof bureaucratic bungling to refuse Yorke's entry. If the purpose of the law is to provide support for
the border personnel, as you say a google search would clear him immediately...even so they must have had to run his name through their database.


maybe they just don't understand football played with the feet so European cup winnner, English FA, League, meant nothing to them.

Perhaps his moniker..'smiling assassin' did him in.

dangerous dude.

In reply to johndom90

An ex Norwegian prime minister was questioned extensively and if I am not mistaken he had a diplomatic passport before being granted entry. I do not think anyone has selective privilege.

In reply to ToTrini

What is there to enforce against Dwight Yorke?.

The man has a high profile posting with Man U, honorary or otherwise and

his itenary is transparent.

This is a case of overkill and downright stupidity on the part of the authorities.

Should CARICOM issue a statement?

In reply to Runs

If that could happen to a diplomat, then God help the rest of us.

At least they allowed him in, but it shows the contempt that is had for

all at the border, irregardless.

I'm sure they ran YOrke through the data base, and saw everything there is to
see, and still deemed him an undesirable.

Contempt and stupidity rolled into one.

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In reply to Narper

Well I knew he had a dip passport like Lara etc so I was even more confused..

In reply to johndom90

Yorke is also a diplomat..Narper just reminded me...madness in trute.

In reply to Runs

what about naturalized citizens who came to the U.S. illegally, got their status and now gainfully employed. are they at risk too?

In reply to jcveletta

Nope, once law abiding they are fine. I am assuming you meant greencard holders?

In reply to Runs

No citizens. This is a serious situation mate. I hope civility in policy making returns to the U.S. Once someone is a citizen, how can he/she be deported? This brings up the question of second class citizenship.

He needed a visa because he had an Iranian stamp. He must have forgotten the US regulation on that. They denied him entry because of that.

In reply to Commie

I think the point some are trying to make here is that regardless of what stamp is in his passport he done name Yorke and that qualifies him to piss on anybody's law. De man is a diplomat..... a simple Google could have verified

In reply to Kay

Yeah and he made similar passes through the US a few times since his Iran day trip,and even went to NY from Mia and also LA...yeah so explain that? What's the difference now?

And yes in progressive society we can now use a number of available tech to accommodate or even verify a traveler,especially one with a diplomatic passport,especially one that' so easily verifiable,Trump's USA is the difference..a diplomatic passport means something if you didn't know..this was just a display of pure arrogance.

I'm now of mixed feelings knowing he wouldn't last the year but a small part of me is hoping that he stays around so cheerleaders like some of you could feel the pain..It may not be limited to a travelling situation...keep giving Trump rope,make sure and stock up on grease..

In reply to bravos

Those trips were most probably before Trump's 90 day limitation period. He will most likely be allowed in again without questions after the limitation expires....

In reply to Kay

Right so clearly Trump's USA is the difference now...that's all we're saying..when you denying a man like Yorke no matter the situation on the day you on the wrong track..you are actually misusing and misdirecting resources and fooling yourself..sounds very Trump like. Must we support this injustice because it can be applied to some broader legal machinery? An Iran stamp is only one component,there are other factors that applied in Obama's USA hence he was never stopped before.

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Prime Minister Rowley speaks

In reply to Narper

Always two sides to a story?

In reply to nick2020
You ever hear Yorke speak....you would not believe this lad was born and bred in Tobago....and he lost his accent only after a few years in Hingland

Looks like de man was using his British Passport

In reply to Narper

Somebody finally got it right....