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So Braithwaite's strike rate isn't an issue?

 
Devin 2017-02-18 14:06:27 

Less than 65 in the last match to score a half ton, and now a strike rate of 50 to score 22.

 
TanteMerle 2017-02-18 14:23:28 

I say it before.
He does not belong in 50 overs yet.

Cannot score quick in Dung Heap.

 
runout 2017-02-18 15:09:35 

In reply to TanteMerle


Agree puts lots of pressure on the batting

 
cherri 2017-02-18 16:04:48 

How it get an issue......Brath is an opener, and somebody got to put down stakes.........the two openers cayn go helter skelter from ball one, yuh lose early wickets and the team in stress.........people on here are apt to say, pressure does burst pipe, Brath can absorb that pressure, let the others play around him as the innings progress he too will progress........I have seen Brath play LO cricket and he is not a bad bat.....I doan know what you people are looking for, but he may be right for that opening spot in ODI's........I doan see how he putting pressure on the others, the others know the role of Brath is to stay there, play around him, the free handers in the bottom will do their thing as well, and if he is there at the end, the team profits.............I am more than convinced that nuff uh wunna does only come talk nuff long talk...........just sain.......cuss me......I ent gih two wuk up bout jokers international.......

rolleyes

 
VIX 2017-02-18 16:10:20 

In reply to Devin

who to put???
WI have many to choose from eh?
big grin

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-18 16:30:38 

In reply to cherri

Where did he suggest that Brathwaite should go helter skelter? Read and comprehend and quit getting so personal. Block block block is unacceptable in ODI or LIST A cricket. Scoring at 50 s/r in in LIST A cricket is unacceptable. Rotate the freakin strike that is the least you can do if you are incapable of scoring quickly. Even then he still has a problem as he is predominantly an onside player so teams will try to cut out the singles for him on the onside just like Jamaica did today.

He is not ready for ODI/List A cricket.

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-18 16:31:03 

In reply to VIX

Evin Lewis and Kieran Powell to open vs England.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-02-18 19:55:10 

In reply to voiceofreason

Nuh body ain't ready cause you want the baseballer in

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-02-18 19:57:09 

It's only an issue if bim losing

 
jen 2017-02-18 20:03:00 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Fussy, in all fairness, strike rate of 65 can't work these days. You realize the kind of ODI team England have these days?

Alex hales, Jason Roy, Joe Root, Eoin Morgan, Ali, Stokes, Butler. This england team consistently making 300+ score these days.

If powell and co wasn't in form, i'd go back with Kraigg, but when they're in form, Kraigg can't make the team.

 
XDFIX 2017-02-18 20:12:00 

We should never think to select a WI team without K. Brathwaite

 
Narper 2017-02-18 20:15:39 

I would always play Braffit in a WI team...until the WI team can demonstrate that the perennial top order collapse is a thing of the past.

Braffit must however learn to change gears at some point...like Shiv did so many times

 
Kay 2017-02-18 20:32:32 

Agree with VOR here. Lewis and Powell should be tried against England ... no time to block block block!!!

 
GMA 2017-02-18 20:37:57 

In reply to XDFIX

At the moment yes. At least he can bat.
Obviously he isn't scoring quickly enough.
But how else can he improve?
I remember years ago Sarwan wouldn't get picked
For odis for similar reasons.
Turned out to be a superb Odi bat.
Quality should always be afforded opportunities

 
openning 2017-02-18 20:38:09 

In reply to Narper

Barbados batting collapse numerous times during the tournament, when Kraigg got out early.
These guy want to see players like Blackwood and Carter, scoring 20 off 10 balls.

 
GMA 2017-02-18 20:38:48 

In reply to jen

No way will the brits score 300 in the Caribbean.

 
Baje 2017-02-18 20:39:13 

In reply to Devin
It is not a problem for barbados

 
Kay 2017-02-18 20:42:17 

In reply to GMA

No way will the brits score 300 in the Caribbean.

Me feel the same way too. Think they will get closer to 350

 
Baje 2017-02-18 20:44:40 

Brathwaite is a short term solution at best.
Since we are already #9 in odi..i would take a chance and start with Lewis and Powell.

 
TanteMerle 2017-02-18 21:21:17 

I am Bajan and a Braffit fan.

I say we use Pow Pow and Lewis.

Braffit needs to learn to rotate strike and put away bad balls.

I watch him block half volleys and full toss.

Not a ODI batsman yet!!!!

International cricket teams par is 320.

West Indies cannot do that consistently
with Braffit at this point.

He need to score at a rate of 80 to 90
minimum to make the cut for me.

150 balls for 120not out wont cut it.

 
analyst-kid 2017-02-19 00:31:51 

BUT LOOK at the Pride scores with Brathwaite this tournament: 302,294,282,294 314 and 271 ....these are the scores you want to see WI consistently posting!

No other regional team can boast of such scores consistently!

 
analyst-kid 2017-02-19 00:33:03 

In reply to TanteMerle

International cricket teams par is 320.

West Indies cannot do that consistently
with Braffit at this point.



one thing for sure...they can't make those scores without him consistently either!

 
Blackbird 2017-02-19 05:49:15 

In reply to DevinI have supported the experiment with Brathwaite the problem is that he doesnt suport it himself. He need a change of attitude to change his game to fit. He puts too much pressure on his batting partners and team to increase the scoring rate while he stands around and "jut".

If Brathwaite scores a 100 its normally 150 balls leaving the rest of the batting to go at 125%+ to reach 300 runs. He needs to go back to the drawing board. In short, when he succeed we will fail and when he fails it just another failure.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-02-19 06:29:02 

In reply to Blackbird

What about an opener who scores 25 off 10 balls and out in tge first 3 overs? How does he help the orher batsmen? By giving them 290 balls to score off? Does that help them to score faster and bat longer?

Btw my response to the opening post was with the Barbados pride context. His batting did not hurt them.

If wunnuh prefer the attractive 1 innings per tour performers at Windies level guh long.

 
Blackbird 2017-02-19 06:51:16 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzyNobody is advocating a failure to open but lets be realistic he did put Barbados under pressure. Due to the low level of the competition Bim got out of jail but it showed in Zimbabwe that it didnt work. Unless he changes his game, its water.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-02-19 07:13:35 

In reply to Blackbird

Barbados lost one match so again in the Barbados context it didn't hurt.

If Windies prefer a different approach go ahead.

Rather than blame failing players we blame those who play their given role. No Windies are where they are. O remember when Lara got cussed for batting too fast!

 
SamlordPirate 2017-02-19 07:56:27 

it's sad to see some of the so called experts on cricket keep pushing this nonsense about KB...
sigh....

o well...
rolleyes

 
Courtesy 2017-02-19 08:33:11 

...He need to score at a rate of 80 to 90
minimum to make the cut for me.

150 balls for 120not out wont cut it.


Doosra, you must pay close attention when I am not on this bored.

120 runs out of 150 balls = 80 percent strike rate.

I don't expect the majority of mathematically illiterate (incl Devin) posters here to pick that up...but I expect you (Doosra) to catch that ball.

lol lol lol

 
Courtesy 2017-02-19 08:39:00 

BTW, when the West Indies 50 over batsmen can score runs with monotonous regularity in the middle, then there will be no use for K. Brathwaite to open.

Until then, the lack of quality and consistent batsmanship in the middle, justifies Brathwaite's selection.

Deal with the problem and not the consequence of the problem.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-02-19 08:52:45 

In reply to Courtesy

Pre-xactly!

 
Courtesy 2017-02-19 09:00:21 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

You can always depend on me to put stop valves in their asses, mate.

lol lol lol

 
Devin 2017-02-19 09:02:02 

In reply to VIX

Put names in a hat, pick two. Isn't that what the selectors do?

 
Devin 2017-02-19 09:32:19 

In reply to TanteMerle

80-90? You pushing it boss. Braithwaite will never have a career strike rate of 80. He needs to work his way up to 70-75. Currently it's sitting at under 58.

He also only averages 31, so I'm not sure why people are trying to equate any success he's had at the regional level in 50 over cricket to what could possibly happen in International ODI'S.

A little bit of foresight should tell you that he is not capable of consistently scoring at an acceptable rate in List A or ODI cricket. And while he's only played 7 ODI'S, it's not as though he's averaging 40 or 50 odd. He's barely averaging 30.

He's also been fortunate to get his start in ODI cricket against three of the weaker teams; Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

 
Courtesy 2017-02-19 09:53:05 

In reply to Devin

Devin you IDIOT, you wouldn't see how crass these statements below are:

Braithwaite will never have a career strike rate of 80. He needs to work his way up to 70-75. Currently it's sitting at under 58.


More fuckery or gobbledygook:
He also only averages 31, so I'm not sure why people are trying to equate any success he's had at the regional level in 50 over cricket to what could possibly happen in International ODI'S.


You have now elevated yourself to seerman status.
A little bit of foresight should tell you that he is not capable of consistently scoring at an acceptable rate in List A or ODI cricket.


More gwen from Devin:
He's also been fortunate to get his start in ODI cricket against three of the weaker teams; Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka and Pakistan.


Brother, stay in the little league.

lol lol lol

 
mittheimp 2017-02-19 10:42:09 

depends on the wicket... a good odi wicket with par 300+ then he cant play