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black 2017-03-21 14:02:36 

Start a thread on the subject and it can go on forever.

What is considered safe drinking?

How much is too much drinking?

 
RemainsUnknown 2017-03-21 14:19:42 

In reply to black

When you drink vodka over ice, it can give you kidney failure.
When you drink rum over ice, it can give you liver failure.

When you drink whiskey over ice, it can give you heart problems.
When you drink gin over ice, it can give you brain problems.

Apparently, ice is really bad for you.
Warn all your friends.

 
conman 2017-03-21 15:15:30 

In reply to black

If you feel your body saying "slow down" its a good time to slow down

 
black 2017-03-21 15:22:33 

In reply to conman


If you feel your body saying "slow down" its a good time to slow down


What does that mean?

You could be doing harm to your body and don't know it.

 
conman 2017-03-21 15:35:17 

In reply to black

i dono about most people, but for me, its an effort to put more down after a certain point.......im not completely drunk but i know when my body is saying, watch it

 
black 2017-03-21 15:40:47 

In reply to conman

Ok, got you but I am talking about long term effect.

How is it going to affect your health, it you drink 3 beers a night?

 
pelon 2017-03-21 16:04:08 

In reply to black

How is it going to affect your health, if you drink 3 beers a night?


Every single human is different. Research shows 3 beers a night has long term effects if you do so for an extended period. Some men drink 3 beers a night and for 3 - 4 years run like the wind. No effects seen, then the fatty liver appears "out of nowhere". The side effects are many. [google them]

It could take months it could take years. If you are drinking 3+ beers per night - you are setting yourself up for health issues. Simple.

It is not about drunkenness. Use moderation, drink and enjoy, but use moderation if you are 40+

I have a drink anytime anywhere - but now it's no more than x per week. PERIOD.

Irreversible scarring of the liver causes Cirrhosis. What can cause scarring: alcohol (quantity+time). That simple.

Side note: MODERATION. I have a long love of a good beverage, and I want that to remain!

Side note: it is no joke: Ice in the hospitality industry is some of the dirtiest water around. very poor quality control. watch next time you are at a bar how the ice comes from the back room to the bar..... bacteria bonanza.

 
black 2017-03-21 16:48:39 

In reply to pelon

Good info.

Side note: it is no joke: Ice in the hospitality industry is some of the dirtiest water around. very poor quality control. watch next time you are at a bar how the ice comes from the back room to the bar..... bacteria bonanza


True. Someone I know, found mold on his ice.

 
black 2017-03-21 17:09:05 

In reply to pelon

If you want to know how clean a restaurant is, visit the kitchen after clean up.

By the way, they all have roaches, some do a better job of controlling them

 
doosra 2017-03-21 17:18:52 

In reply to black

no drinking is safe drinking

a gaan big grin

 
Dukes 2017-03-21 17:21:57 

In reply to pelon

My dear fellow:
ALCOHOL INCREASETH THE DESIRE BUT DECREASETH THE PERFORMANCE
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
np 2017-03-21 17:27:20 

In reply to Dukes

is that piece of literature from learned experience or practice!!

 
np 2017-03-21 17:33:59 

In reply to pelon

If you are drinking 3+ beers per night - you are setting yourself up for health issues.
That's a whole heap of beer if per night!!

I can see drinking 3 beers one night but over TIME - not within the hour (and I've observed many a fools do that in NO...
the key is drink three over a stretch and then hold steady (no drinking per se) for at least the next 4 days to purge and reset.

 
black 2017-03-21 18:34:18 

In reply to np

I know people that drink a 6 pack every night.

 
Curtis 2017-03-21 18:43:53 

alyuh cyaan buy season ticket for cricket and go 5 days and doan fire a few everyday - all this 3 beers and out talk!!!

 
Chrissy 2017-03-21 18:56:10 

I rarely drink - I can nurse a beer or a glass of wine for two hours

 
black 2017-03-21 19:07:36 

Wifey got me on a glass of wine a day routine and on the weekends, I'll drink 2 beers each, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

 
black 2017-03-21 19:09:35 

In reply to Chrissy

I rarely drink - I can nurse a beer or a glass of wine for two hours


That will make it warm and lose the taste.

 
black 2017-03-21 19:13:49 

In reply to Dukes

My dear fellow:
ALCOHOL INCREASETH THE DESIRE BUT DECREASETH THE PERFORMANCE


Spoken like a true health care professional.

 
pelon 2017-03-21 19:28:33 

In reply to black

I know people that drink a 6 pack every night.


You get the point though, it is not just quantity, it is TIME.

Over time doing that WILL damage your liver. (and it differs)

What I SHOULD NOT tell you is that the liver can repair itself. to an extent. It can not repair itself after Cirrhosis sets in though. So drink knowing, enjoy, but moderation ok. every blue moon you can go on a limb... but nightly one or none...

As for alcohol and sex drive.... Dukes is (obliviously) right.


Brother NP: Yes sir to your post above.... bad time to say this, me just had ah cold Guinness - and that is it. smile

 
Kay 2017-03-21 19:49:30 

Don't get drunk. My grandpa told me the difference between drunk and still being reasonably sober is one drink. It can be the 5th, 6th or 20th as it varies by individuals and each individual should be able to detect it and quit at that stage....

Now that is safe drinking smile

 
black 2017-03-21 20:01:23 

In reply to Kay

It's possible to be intoxicated and not appear to be. That's where people get into trouble by driving. It slows reaction time .

 
Kay 2017-03-21 20:42:20 

In reply to black

This is about feelings not appearance. You can feel when you are starting to lose the ability to function properly

 
XFactor 2017-03-21 21:14:21 

In reply to black

Wifey got me on a glass of wine a day routine and on the weekends, I'll drink 2 beers each, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.


Most people enjoy a drink or two now and then, but an established drinking pattern is a cause for concern.

I now comprehend, the drinking explains a lot about your posts.

 
black 2017-03-21 21:22:09 

In reply to XFactor

I now comprehend, the drinking explains a lot about your posts.


I am perfectly fine with having a few on the weekends, the wine is supposedly for the health benefits.

 
DukeStreet 2017-03-22 01:31:42 

In reply to black

I have friends in the restaurant industry.

Not only is ice a problem. The drinks and beer coming out of the taps and soda guns are full of bacteria, mold, etc. A small percentage of bars/restaurants actually practice consistent and thorough tap cleaning procedures.

Sooooo, the best chance is just drink from the cans. Avoid the taps and soda guns. Too many horror stories to list here.

 
DAVE400 2017-03-22 09:32:53 

In reply to black

Drinking is safe once you are not an alcoholic, in which case zero shud be ur number...

Use the twelve questions to evaluate yourself.

 
black 2017-03-22 10:15:12 

In reply to DAVE400

Define alcoholic.

I asked that because some alcoholics might not consider themselves, alchoholics.

 
pelon 2017-03-22 10:20:55 

In reply to black

"3 beers a night" is by definition an alcoholic.
Don't get carried away though: this is not targeted to u. Any person drinking 3 beers in one go is not an alcoholic. A person drinking 3 beers EVERY night though, is.

Quantity, frequency and dependence point to a problem. Not whether you can handle 10. Not whether you can function NOW... it is the long term effects.

Black: moderation and frequent REST periods does the liver good. Promptly cut out the nightly 3+ beers.

 
black 2017-03-22 10:33:02 

In reply to pelon

I agree.

This is not about me though, just hypothetical. lol

 
cricketmygame 2017-03-22 11:00:20 

In reply to RemainsUnknown

big grin

 
DAVE400 2017-03-22 11:10:28 

In reply to black

Google "the twelve questions"

 
black 2017-03-22 11:15:53 

In reply to DAVE400

That is serious. lol

 
RemainsUnknown 2017-03-22 11:28:59 

In reply to cricketmygame

lol

 
RemainsUnknown 2017-03-22 11:35:42 

In reply to black

I suppose it really comes down to how it affects your health, your daily activities, work, home, personal, and friends & family members around you.

If any of those are adversely affected by your drinking, then there is most likely a problem.

 
openning 2017-03-22 11:46:29 

In reply to pelon
Working around alcohol for many decades, I saw it destroy a number of people.
One beer equal 1 1/2 oz of liquor or 5oz glass of wine
Drink in moderation people, it destroy lives.

 
openning 2017-03-22 11:58:15 

In reply to RemainsUnknown

A number of alcoholics don't think their have a problem.

 
RemainsUnknown 2017-03-22 13:20:12 

In reply to openning

A number of alcoholics don't think their have a problem.
Yes, most probably do not 'fess up to it. That's why the other factors, I mentioned above, come in to play to shed light on the situation at hand.

 
CricketLuva4 2017-03-22 14:02:25 

In reply to black

I know some people who would argue drinking 1 beer improves their driving.

 
RemainsUnknown 2017-03-22 14:05:14 

In reply to CricketLuva4


I know some people who would argue drinking 1 beer improves their driving.
... like it "improves" someone else's public-speaking endeavor?

Maybe it takes the edge off being nervous... but "improves?" rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

 
black 2017-03-22 14:07:00 

In reply to CricketLuva4

One beer won't make a difference for most people.

 
pelon 2017-03-22 14:09:32 

In reply to openning

That is what I am repeatedly saying in this thread: moderation.

 
black 2017-03-22 17:07:58 

In reply to pelon

One man's moderation is another man's drunkenness. lol

 
Emir 2017-03-22 17:14:08 

In reply to black

It is a pity people feel it necessary to use/abuse alcohol.

It has no benefits, like sugar it is bad for one's health and pocketbook.

I say stay away from the damn thing all together.

 
CricketLuva4 2017-03-23 18:32:19 

In reply to RemainsUnknown

Well the key is "1 beer". 1 beer as Black said won't drunk most people, but it can put some over the legal limit depending on weight, etc. (Here in Toronto, it puts drivers 21 and under OVER the limit, as it's zero tolerance).

It was explained as, if you know you may be over the limit, you pay more attention to the road than normal (a lot of people are distracted drivers), and hence drive "better" or "safer".