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Dat is how you bowl legspin...with plenty of variety.

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 13:23:43 

Not de pyam pyam, inside de comfort zone, no variety bowling by Luckyshoo.

 
Runs 2017-03-26 13:24:29 

In reply to Courtesy

razz
Any better leggie in WI who does such? cool

 
JamMack 2017-03-26 13:25:48 

Our Leggies are 1 trick ponies.

 
TheTrail 2017-03-26 13:26:15 

In reply to Courtesy

Anything those Pak spinners do, Narine could pelt better.

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 13:27:06 

In reply to Runs

Absolutely not...but invest in any other bowler.

If Luchyshoo has not learnt the art of legspin even after attending clinics with the top legspinners he will never learn.

 
Runs 2017-03-26 13:27:41 

In reply to Courtesy

Bishoo has not progressed

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 13:28:44 

In reply to Runs

Bishoo has not progressed

Luckyshoo is now at the point of diminishing returns.

 
Runs 2017-03-26 13:33:11 

In reply to Courtesy

Disappointing

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 13:35:55 

In reply to Runs

Ask any reasonable batsman and he will tell you if a spinner does not have plenty variety he will very quickly overcome that bowler.

 
Narper 2017-03-26 13:39:54 

In reply to Courtesy

Didn't Bishoo take 8 test wickets in an innings 6 months ago?

If Luchyshoo has not learnt the art of legspin even after attending clinics with the top legspinners he will never learn


As far as I know...Saqlain did one clinic

Now England has snapped up Saqlain

Who is the WI coach for spinners in the WI team? NOBODY

ALL the active world spinners have coaches working with them...full time

Absolutely not...but invest in any other bowler.
They did invest in Benn for years...what you think of him?
Nurse has been around for a couple of years in the WI squad

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 13:43:33 

In reply to Narper

Bishoo has to take responsibility for his own cricket development and the art of legspin.

He has not progressed with so many years in the game.

If anything he has regressed badly.

 
Narper 2017-03-26 13:45:42 

In reply to Courtesy

Why do other international teams hire coaches then?

Why have England hire Saqlain recently?

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 13:46:49 

In reply to Narper

OK...no one has coached Bishoo all these years.

So he has to wait until a coach is provided for him specifically...no initiative...no google...no internet.

 
Narper 2017-03-26 13:57:26 

In reply to Courtesy

So he has to wait until a coach is provided for him specifically...no initiative...no google...no internet.

Man...I pointed out he took 8 test wickets recently in an inngs

Obviously there is something there....WHY CAN'T THE WICB INVEST IN HIM some more

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 13:59:22 

In reply to Narper

No one said "there was nothing there".

If Bishoo cannot bowl a googly with regularity then he can forget bowling as a legspinner and I am not even talking about his lack of control.

West Indies should terminate immediately any further investment in Luckyshoo.

 
Narper 2017-03-26 14:08:23 

In reply to Courtesy

Okay...you have your view and I have mine...

Let's not detract from the debutant in the current T20

I won't be surprised if this young chap bamboozle the world's best batsmen in the near future

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 14:08:24 

Narper the following questions should assist you in putting Luckyshoo spin bowling in perspective.

* Does in bowl a top spinner at will?

* Does he bowl a googly with regularity?

* Can he bowl with control consistently?

* Can he bowl with guile:

The above questions will only be useful if you remove your head from the sand.

big grin

 
Narper 2017-03-26 14:10:01 

In reply to Courtesy

Look....my point exactly....he NEEDS A PROPER COACH to work with him

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 14:10:14 

In reply to Narper

I won't be surprised if this young chap bamboozle the world's best batsmen in the near future

As long as he bowls with guile, variety and control there is no reason why he should not be successful. Ask Shane Warne.

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 14:11:47 

In reply to Narper

Look....my point exactly....he NEEDS A PROPER COACH to work with him

Ok...Let him go and work with a proper coach and when he learns the art of legspin he can return. No more learning on the job...it has not worked.

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 14:21:57 

In reply to Narper

Btw, Narper, I have asked the TV guys to cut a DVD of the four overs from de Pakistani leggie and have it sent to Luckyshoo's hotel room.

Tomorrow I will make arrangements for him to receive a DVD player with ultra slow motion.

 
Narper 2017-03-26 15:02:10 

In reply to Courtesy

No more learning on the job...it has not worked.


I see EVERY single current WEST INDIAN PLAYER LEARNING ON THE JOB....from #1 to #11.....its not working....we are at the bottom in ICC ranking

Better WI suspend ODI and Test...and even T20 ...until the players are ready wink

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 15:03:21 

In reply to Narper

I see EVERY single current WEST INDIAN PLAYER LEARNING ON THE JOB....from #1 to #11.....its not working....we are at the bottom in ICC ranking

Better WI suspend ODI and Test...and even T20 ...until the players are ready

You're wide awake now. Our players lack the fundamentals of the game...well err except Shai Hope.

lol lol lol

 
sgtdjones 2017-03-26 15:05:35 

In reply to Courtesy

Piton head

Why didn't you get a dvd for Bishoo when H&H regime was in charge.

The kid was in T&T playing for Williamsville in a B league learning .

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 15:15:32 

Duj in a cryptic way in describing de Pakistani leggie strengths is pointing out Luckyshoo's weaknesses.

Doh try dat Duj.

big grin

 
Drapsey 2017-03-26 15:27:51 


Let's blame DD for convening this series outside of our T20 (CPL) window when everyone is out of practice for the format.

 
openning 2017-03-26 17:07:43 

I must agree with Courtesy here.
I've been writing about Bishoo's lack of variety for years, not only his his bowling lacks variety, he bowls too many long hops.
Narp, Nurse ball is just too havy for him, it seem like it weight a pound, another spinner that is a robot is Warrican, he has know idea of bowling.
Bishoo should be putting in hours of work, to get his bowling up to scratch

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 17:22:00 

In reply to openning

Leg spin is very easy to play on its own...it's the variety that confuses batsmen, particularly if it is well concealed.

Bishoo should know this by now. He seems happy to remain within his comfort zone...leg break, leg break, leg break, leg break, leg break, leg break...OVER.

If Luckyshoo did not know this...he can watch de new chinaman and googly bowler for India and now Shadab for Pakistan.

....................

Anyway, I hope by now de TV chaps would have delivered the DVD to Bishoo's hotel room.

Tomorrow he will get the DVD player.


big grin

 
openning 2017-03-26 17:32:25 

In reply to Courtesy

The spinners on both teams are a joy to watch, they can hit a spot and remain on it or close to it ball after ball, bowling both side of the wicket.
Bishoo has done very little from what I see, to tell me he has added more to his arsenal.

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 17:36:00 

In reply to openning

If Luckyshoo could bowl a well concealed googly and the flipper with control and with regularity, even when he bowls his long hop it would be difficult for batsmen to put him away.

At the moment 99.99 percent leg breaks...eat and drink for any reasonable batsman.

 
jcveletta 2017-03-26 18:08:32 

In reply to Runs

bishy has lots of potential. He is doing fine at the test level. Need a good spin coach.

 
sunfish 2017-03-26 18:15:09 

The Pak youth confusing batsmen the way Narine used to. Narine has been worked out and lost that wicket taking ability. Did I hear the comms right he has not taken a wicket in the last 5 T/20 matches? This should currently be our biggest worry.

 
Maispwi 2017-03-26 18:36:32 

If a player eh prepared to experiment on his/her own and put in de hard work, no amount of coaching will do anything.

When players are not prepared to think for themselves and rely solely on being coached dey hardly go very far.

 
StumpCam 2017-03-26 18:39:07 

In reply to Courtesy

Dat is how you bowl legspin...with plenty of variety.

Please feel free to start the obligatory batsman version! lol lol

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 18:39:08 

In reply to Maispwi

Tank you sah. That is why improvisation in blues and Jazz is so sweet. No sheet music.

big grin

 
Courtesy 2017-03-26 18:42:08 

In reply to StumpCam

Please feel free to start the obligatory batsman version!

Brother de batsmen I saw today convinced me dey should all be working in an abattoir. I am very happy I saw Alvin Isaac Kallicharran and Lawrence George Rowe.

And I can only Hope that Shai will deliver the goods.