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Those World cup u19 players

 
Baje 2017-03-27 13:17:59 

Carty
Hetmyer
Joseph

are demonstrating ability. maybe it is time to get the rest of the youngsters into the regional competition.

That same spinner who mesmerized windies the other day, did he not play against these same youngsters?

 
mikesiva 2017-03-29 05:23:59 

In reply to Baje

Agreed...more of the youngsters should be blooded in the PCL.

 
doosra 2017-03-29 06:23:58 

In reply to Baje

Kemo Paul not getting to play. He should find a way soon

 
Narper 2017-03-29 08:03:25 

Except for Joseph, the others are struggling to bridge the gap between U19 and FC

 
seaegg99 2017-03-29 08:09:13 

In reply to Narper

Carty and Hetmyer also looks to be finding their way.

 
positiveg 2017-03-29 08:40:16 

In reply to seaegg99

I think it's fair to say all these guy won't progress at the same pace.
But I think they should all be given a chance. Perhaps what the WICB should do is look at having them as a separate team in the PCL as well especially seeing that less than 50% of them are part of a current squad. And they have shown that they are quite capable of being part of a PCL squad.
So maybe that is something that can be looked at. However, it might not be feasible financially, so they might have to force the hands of the PCL team management to include them, yet this might be seen as a way of over-reaching.
But the guys for sure should be included and given a chance. Especially due to the fact that they are not away at some academy training and learning the game.

 
mikelegend 2017-03-29 09:38:30 

In reply to positiveg

Agreed.

 
methodic 2017-03-29 09:42:43 

In reply to positiveg

very good

 
mikelegend 2017-03-29 09:49:17 

Could just imagine how much more Chemar and Aljo would have developed in tandem.

 
seaegg99 2017-03-29 09:55:52 

In reply to positiveg

Holder and Paul if health should have been playing this season.

 
positiveg 2017-03-29 10:15:51 

In reply to mikelegend

Yep, both of those guys are pretty good,
Chemar not as fast as Jospeh, but he bowls well wicket to wicket and gets the ball to turn as well. Plus they feed off each other.
I'm wondering if the teams are limiting their players development too much because they are afraid to get rid of certain players because of loyalty?
Whichever way the WICB needs to make sure these guys develops. It's like baby turtles making a dash to the ocean, all won't make it to adult life but all are given a chance to make it to the ocean by their mother.

 
seaegg99 2017-03-29 10:20:24 

I'm wondering if the teams are limiting their players development too much because they are afraid to get rid of certain players because of loyalty?


The stupid politics raises it's ugly head. Every year is the same dumb garbage.

 
Tryangle 2017-03-29 10:25:41 

In reply to positiveg

Would such a team qualify as a First Class team, though?

 
voiceofreason 2017-03-29 11:41:30 

In reply to Tryangle

They had a West indies B development team already in the competition. That would be a good addition but who will pay the additional expense? The League has no major sponsor and I really do not see any coming on board in the near future as FC cricket is not popular among the masses. So who will pay for it? The
seniors?

 
jacksparrow 2017-03-29 12:09:28 

This is where visionary administrations will make a difference. For example Hety's style says more limited overs, all the more evident by leading the Windies to the junior World Cup.Yet the wise ones choose to select him for the A team in the longer version. These guys deserve special attention/fast tracking/specialized training.Still they are just in the mill.

 
natty_forever 2017-03-29 12:13:31 

... An Academy 11 or a West Indies B (got from VOR), should play PCL.

 
anthonyp 2017-03-29 13:38:31 

Where is Springer? DE chest roll guy...

 
positiveg 2017-03-29 13:47:10 

In reply to voiceofreason

Come to think of it, who should pay, well you have a new CEO whose background is in marketing and sponsorship, he should be able to bring sponsors on board with some sort of incentive packages etc.
there's always a way. I just don't think that the WICB used to explore a lot of these options.
Look how many sponsors the T20 teams have, and yes it might be a faster game but say you say ok Nagico come on as sponsors for the team not the league we'll cover the other expenses etc

 
seaegg99 2017-03-29 14:27:03 

In reply to positiveg

Agree. The lack of foresight is frightening in this crowd.

 
tc1 2017-03-29 14:31:43 

In reply to natty_forever

You have to develop a minor league, u cannot water down your professional league by giving youngsters a pass.u assigned 2 to the each professional league.

No test nation allows their u19, B teams to play at the first class level.as you said before where are the academies?

 
natty_forever 2017-03-29 14:57:10 

In reply to tc1... notice I said an Academy 11. If I had my way, this would be the umpteenth batch, as I been calling for this from Ramdin days, therefore I would have a pool to pick from, not just last years squad.

 
tc1 2017-03-29 15:11:58 

In reply to natty_forever

Agreed, you do not want to 'dewater'your fc league, your minor league could be up of made your academy team or academies teams, the 4 campuses, and B team playing each other 8 games a year.These players could be ranged from 19-25.

At the end of their season, you draft 12 players into the PCL

 
openning 2017-03-29 16:43:41 

In reply to tc1

Can you imagine any of the U-19 players dominating the top leagues in their Island at U-17 and U-19?
The problem is, these guys represent their age groups at school, and not play cricket for clubs in the top division.
Can you imagine Jaden Leacock, Jacon Bethel, Springer, Holder, Leniko Boucher and other youngsters through out the region, playing for clubs and competing for a spot, for their regional team, at age 17.
Can you see any youngster with the present set up, represent the West Indies similar to Sir Gary's age?
Joseph from Antigua, should had been in the Leeward Island tournament, and should had been in the Leeward Island squad prior to the U-19 WC.
The Clubs has to get these youngsters playing for them, where they can compete and play with the top local cricketers.

Young Emmanuel Stewart, I understand he is at Cawmere, can you imagine him joining an Elite club, and play school cricket during a school tournament?

 
tc1 2017-03-29 18:54:12 

In reply to openning

Cawmere like it's a cricket academy

 
rillo 2017-03-29 22:22:33 

In reply to positiveg

Been begging for Holder on this mb. He looks loke a real good player.
Joseph I must say is getting the shitty end of the stick from the selectors.
Why are they not persisting with him regardless of the format instead of Gabriel?

 
voiceofreason 2017-03-29 23:34:09 

In reply to positiveg

Come to think of it, who should pay, well you have a new CEO whose background is in marketing and sponsorship, he should be able to bring sponsors on board with some sort of incentive packages etc.
there's always a way. I just don't think that the WICB used to explore a lot of these options.
Look how many sponsors the T20 teams have, and yes it might be a faster game but say you say ok Nagico come on as sponsors for the team not the league we'll cover the other expenses etc


I agree that they maybe lazy but what I could tell you is that you could market all you want but if the product is not attractive the sponsors will not come. What is your fan base for regional FC Cricket? 2 and a half Men and a dog? Why would I as a sponsor want to advertise to 2 and a half men and a dog? You seriously tried to compare the attraction of T20 with the non-attraction of FC cricket? This is a different time Bro. Get real.

Cricket WI lazy alright as they just want to collect money not necessarily do the hard work to make it. They should have never sold out the T20 format to the CPL. Keep that, make that your bread and butter and use some of that money to fund the FC game and maybe even give the T20 sponsors a 2 for 1 with T20/FC cricket package. They just want to collect a check and sit down and watch. LICA the same crap, they could have had a T20 tournament to help fund the 3day game. A T20competition with great inter-island rivalry and you would see people and even put it on TV and people would watch.

 
Pacy 2017-03-30 01:33:39 

In reply to voiceofreason

Only a crappy product needs a strong marketing perrson... A good product sells itself lol

 
Norm 2017-03-30 04:53:33 

In reply to positiveg

the WICB should do is look at having them as a separate team in the PCL
'
Not a good idea, for at least 2 reasons:

1. They should learn to value their places by fighting for and earning them. Placing them in a separate team would create a sense of entitlement.
2. They will acquire experience by playing in the same teams with more experienced players, and therefore develop faster and attain greater heights.

 
seaegg99 2017-03-30 08:18:40 

In reply to Norm

Problem is that politics keep the youths on the sidelines too long and they lose the desire in this fast food environment we are in right now. The attention span of the youths today is decreasing daily.

 
archangel 2017-03-30 08:31:08 

In reply to doosra

Paul was not injured in a recent match.

For the short he played, he looked good.

 
natty_forever 2017-03-30 09:04:59 

In reply to Norm... what do you then do with those not selected to their national team?

 
Norm 2017-03-30 09:17:28 

In reply to seaegg99

Problem is that politics keep the youths on the sidelines too long and they lose the desire

Politics, or administration, is certainly a major factor in the development of young players. Even with good administration, however, young players still need to earn their places the hard way - by outperforming the older players.

Bring them up on "special" arrangements and they will continue to want the special treatment.

 
analyst-kid 2017-03-30 09:22:13 

In reply to rillo


Been begging for Holder on this mb. He looks loke a real good player.


If Holder wasn't injured he might very well have been starting instead of Harding for Barbados vs Guyana.

 
Norm 2017-03-30 09:27:29 

In reply to natty_forever

what do you then do with those not selected to their national team?

Have a regional Second XI or Minor League competition, like they do in England, for example. Good administration will attract the necessary funds from the public.

At some point, however, the opportunities to represent your national team will (and should) run out, but that has to balanced between top quality and keeping something in the cupboard.

 
tc1 2017-03-30 09:48:51 

In reply to analyst-kid

do you know that Harding was picked for the u19 tournament, but was hurt and was always ahead of Holder.

 
natty_forever 2017-03-30 10:02:16 

In reply to Norm... well until a D2 league, I say play them in the PCL.