I have a 4 year old laptop that is showing signs of dying.
This is strange for me, because the laptop, a Dell is much less older than another Dell I have had for over 10 years and which is still working today(I replaced the harddrive and upgraded the RAM).
I know, I know, they should be thrown out. I was brought up to care things.
This current Dell is overheating and the problem is looking terminal (not fixable like swapping the harddrive).
This is disturbing to me because I have noticed a trend in almost ALL products being produced these days. They are made with a fault that requires you to replace them at regular intervals.
Another example is my gelette MIII blades, I once had a pack where each blade was so sharp, I could reuse them for over a month. These days, they last about a week.
My new mode of operation is to boycott any product that I suspect has built in obsolescence measures. My next laptop is going to be a Lenovo X1 carbon.
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Planned obselencence
In reply to steveo
Consumerism. Can't have you owning a pc for 10 years when money have to be made.
In reply to nick2020
Consumerism. Can't have you owning a pc for 10 years when money have to be made.
Yes, money has to be made, today and also tomorrow. If people wise up to companies deliberately placing weak links in their products to shorten their lifespans, those companies may not have a future.
In reply to steveo
noticed that as well
Cellphones/laptops with non removable batteries drive me nuts.
I have a Macbook at home that is probably close to 7 years old and whilst it's still as fast as the day I bought it , the battery is essentially useless on the thing.
steveo,
OBSOLESCENCE IS CAPITALISM AT ITS VERY WORSE MATE!!!
EXTRACT - PRODUCE - CONSUME - DISPOSE!!!
WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE TO BE DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND REPEATED AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE - INFINITELY!!!!!
ALWAYS REMEMBER THOUGH THAT "INFINITE GROWTH IS IMPOSSIBLE ON A FINITE PLANET"!!!
THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS WILL NOT CONTINUE FOR MUCH LONGER OF THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU!!!
OH RA$$!!!
FUNNY AS FCUK!!!
HA!HA!HA!
SHEIK
In reply to Sheik
Zeitgeist explains it
In reply to steveo
You do have a point that in this day in age a lot of products (especially tech products) are deliberately made and planned for obsolescence. Mass production and quantity over hand-made and quality.
But generally, nothing lasts forever. Everything has a sell by date including the human body. And every year technological advances continues in leaps and bounds. Many products from even five years ago are technologically inferior to the ones made presently ie. the original iPad is a relic when compared to a current model. It doesn't mean the original is unusable, but in comparison to the present model it is much slower and incompatible with current apps and software which requires higher processing power.
Nice topic and a good post.
In reply to steveo
Then you have the idiots that replace their devices with newer versions because they have to have the latest...
As sheik said, you cannot have infinite growth.
In reply to steveo
Then you will be boycotting a lot of stuff that will benefit you in the short run. These days products run off the assembly lines as a new iteration (commonly referred to as an upgrade) of the old one with very negligible changes (just enough to peek your interest) and a very short lifespan.
Without planned obsolescence, especially in electronics, a lot of companies would not be in business.
They depend on us for three things: 1.Our voracious appetite for the "new" 2. The nature of the human foible to what we call "Keeping up with the Jones's and 3. our penchant for using plastic.
.... even when it is spelled incorrectly!
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In reply to Ewart
We all saw that but decided to focus on the point he is making which is a very good one. He did spell it correctly in his first post so don't be too hard
In reply to Sheik
how long will your short wave radio and satellite phone last?
In reply to Ewart
Hey as long as the point is communicated
In reply to Kay
I think he is trying out for the spelling nazi position, one which spuds filled with aplomb
In reply to Sheik
Capitalism vs Consumerism
In reply to steveo
I have an old Dell laptop and its still working fine(2012 est.)But my HP desk top after 3 years is giving me a warning that the hard drive is gonna fail anytime soon--
Its fact up.
In reply to buds
I have an old Dell laptop and its still working fine(2012 est.)But my HP desk top after 3 years is giving me a warning that the hard drive is gonna fail anytime soon--
Its fact up.
I have never been drawn to HP. Actually Dell has been good for me over the years. I am a bit pissed that a newer computer with more modern components dont have the same lifespan as an older one.
I would have bought the Dell XPS 13 but its too small. The Lenovo X1 has always attracted me since it first entered the scene.
i drive a 1992 year model vehicle with 300000+ miles on it...
In reply to cricketest
Life is too short to not LIVE*. Tomorrow is not guaranteed, but that doesn't mean to go out and splurge excessively.
*Living within your means is integral, however.
At the end of the day, 'to each, his own.'
In reply to steveo
I was thinking the same until I got it and it really does not feel small. The virtual bezel-free design makes it feel and look much bigger and comfortable
Many products made today, are expected to do more than their predecessor did. The PC and smartphones are prime examples. The components that go in them are more, hence more components that can fail. Perhaps their time span is shorter but they do more witin that time span than the earlier ones did.
Any manufacturer that is suspected of putting in inferior components in their products with a view to them failing, will not last long. The manufacturers and consumer affairs groups have systems to weed these out. Price also pays a great part. The price for a Benz is higher than the Ford and is expected to last longer. Anyway, a Ford 150 owner will rarely complain about the service he get from his truck, if he services it properly.
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