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data from the World Bank database 1960-2014

In reply to doosra

Interesting. Any speculation as to why Guyana is lagging that much?

In reply to doosra

Does that mean that the Yard's (out of control) murder rate has no real effect on life expectancy?

In reply to BeachBum

I have no explanation

In reply to Drapsey

It's an interesting correlation

In reply to BeachBum

Gramaxzone

In reply to Drapsey


this and poverty level are two of the only good socio/economic indicators in Ja.

In reply to doosra

Shocking. Not even 3 score and 10? What's in the water? or is it de rice?

In reply to doosra
We used to use the data in one of my courses - scary indeed.

In reply to BeachBum

rum

Substandard medical facilities
Read what freddie sayimg

In reply to Narper

Where's the Dukester?

One of the issues with getting your information from the nightly news is that it focuses on the sensational. I recently spent two weeks in an area of Jamaica where it's as boring as northern Barbados. The majority of the residents are returning residents from the places where Caribbean people migrate to.

The living is easy, neighbours spend a lot of time walking, talking and sea bathing with each other. A group of American doctors were here last night eating all the lobsters they could find. I suspect they will drive the prices up.

Some years ago a friend was telling me about an old man in the area who looked like 65 and was actually 85. It turned out he was talking about my gran uncle who died at 96.

These fuggers will all live to 100. Most of them are well on their way.

In reply to doosra

It is interesting to see how life expectancy has improved in all four countries since Independence....

In reply to mikesiva

yes for sure.

Jamaica catching up with Barbados is a big one for me. Guyanese still don't want live long and Trinidad, with oil and all, still not aging well...

GUYANESE IN jAMAICA LIVE LONGER!

In reply to Headley

I would want to know which area that is. Seriously.
Must be a well kept secret.
The only place I can think of is Negril.

High infant mortality rates, lack of quality health care, the effect of migration on age specific mortality rates and inaccurate population statistics are the most likely causes of Guyana's graph

In reply to XDFIX

Guyanese everywhere live longer

In reply to Maispwi

the population statistics is also interesting. i have my own doubts about the census data.

i will run some analysis on that soon and share what happens...here

In reply to doosra

There have always been doubts about census data and by extension mid year population estimates in Guyana well at least up to the 2000 round of Censuses.

The older Caribbean statisticians, Prof Roberts et al, did not believe in including estimates of the undercount into revised population figures. That has changed and more recent data may have adjusted for undercount.

Ah wudn like the job of doing a census in Guyana although mapping should be much easier with GIS and satellite images these days.

In reply to Maispwi

the undercount would be in remote areas, and one would think life is even shorter in these areas!

In reply to Maispwi

The terrain is not as difficult and we have technology now. I've worked on a number of projects lately that suggest to me we can do it if we have the resources.

In reply to doosra

Guyanese have poor diet and are prone to stress

In reply to Curtis

Dhall and rice and bhajee is not poor diet bro

guyanese teens killing themselves too much

if you add that to the daily death in traffic accidents and bandits the number increases

and the ones healthy enough to live long enough migrating to the US

In reply to Curtis

Draining rice is a poor way to cook it. Processed rice is nutrient poor to begin with, draining it, releases more nutrients.

In reply to Runs

if the rice portion cut down, yes

GT peeps eat like they still working the fields - carbs galore

In reply to BeachBum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

In reply to black

Rice contains arsenic a known carcinogen, it is absolutely imperative that you thoroughly wash even store bought and packaged rice. It is also advisable that you strain cooked rice instead of allowing to dry to further eliminate potential arsenic residue.

In reply to Curtis

My grandparents lived on that diet into their 80's and 90's as did many other villagers.
CMG made some good points, it is not diet, as a matter of fact it is low fat and mostly organic. I am speaking about rural folks who are mostly farmers. Rampant alcoholism and poor medical care are also factors.

In reply to Runs

the Guyanese diet is made for people who work in fields or other hard labor

if you eat the same thing and work at a desk it's bad for you

In reply to Runs

What is "bhajee"?

In reply to StumpCam

Calaloo.

There are different varieties of what Guyanese call calaloo.

In reply to black

you sure about that????

In reply to cricketmygame

brown rice in smaller portions and more curry is wise
I know many doctors who said the diet is fine also use whole wheat flour.
Indians use basically the same diet, portion size is key.

In reply to black

correct

In reply to StumpCam

Bhajee, is a term used mostly by Indo-Guyanese.

In reply to cricketmygame

Guyanese eat plenty of fish, fruit and vegetables, the problem might be the over reliance on rice and flour as their main dietary staples and the overcooking of foods.

In reply to black

Rampant alcoholism, deadly roads as in poor drivers, crime, poor medical facilities, poor health care in general, easy access to pesticides in rural areas are all contributing factors. Why are you placing such a high emphasis on diet?

In reply to black

School him, Blackie. These 'Mericans are something else.

In reply to Runs

Those are big factors, I was just commenting on the dietary side of things.

In reply to Runs

If anything, the diet in Guyana, for the most part, is perhaps less detrimental to one's life expectancy than the aforementioned factors.

In reply to RemainsUnknown

Yep, it was actually very good, fresh fruit and veggies, fish, poultry etc well until the KFC's and other fastfood joints started to invade.

In reply to camos

You wud be surprised where some of the major areas of undercount are

In reply to Runs

Indeed. I grew up in the 80's in Enmore and went to St. Rose's High in the 90's and spent summer vacations in Mahaicony creek.

Now when I reflect on those days, the freshest and best of fruits, veggies, fish, chicken, duck... we ate.

The good old days (or young days, in my case).

In reply to RemainsUnknown

Cool have family and friends from Enmore
Would bet my HS classmate taught you CXC or GCE lessons in Enmore also

In reply to RemainsUnknown

I grew up in the country, fish, fruits and vegetables were readily available.

In reply to Runs

Nice. Name?

In reply to black

Which part? Can't beat fresh fruits, veggies, fish etc....

In reply to RemainsUnknown

Close to one of those two places you mentioned. I can't reveal everything.

In reply to RemainsUnknown

Mutuma

In reply to RemainsUnknown

I spent my vacations mostly in East Bank and some time in Anns Grove.

In reply to black

Bannas, allyuh Guyanese know how to fcuk up translation!

Next you will tell me that curry is green! Before you open your mouth let me say that curry is a blend of spices! In other words it the color varies!

Just like I Learned about curry, from "real Indians", not fake Guyanese chamars! Bhajee as defined by Indians is scrap vegetables eaten by the very poor!

Now, go fly a kite with your friends who shall RemainUnknown!!

In reply to StumpCam

That might be true, I am telling you what I know it as.

In reply to black

It is mostly spinach family bro bak choy, chowrai etc I do not know it as being what Stumpy says at least not in Guyana
Everyone eats bhaji and it is not known as a " poor" food

In reply to Runs

Of course I attend his evening lessons. That was a rite of passage. Then, after lessons done, I would ride my BMX with my buddies to Nanking at road front and lash some serious Guinness.

In reply to black

Cool. I had friends from Grove and Herstelling.

In reply to StumpCam

Sounds like you had Bhajee for lunch today.

Try upgrading to Spinach tomorrow.

In reply to RemainsUnknown

Grove and Anns Grove are two different places. Anns Grove is not far from where Shiv grew up.

In reply to StumpCam

what kind of Mahaichony man dont know what Bajee is?

bajee

- chow rai
- pak choy
- thick leaf
- mustard

In reply to doosra

How can anyone born in Guyana not know what bajee is?

In reply to archangel

The area is Retreat, midway between Morant Bay and Port Morant. It's about 1.5 miles on both sides of the main road. The older section is on the coast. Lots approx 6-11k sqft. The estate was owned by Bustamante and was subdivided and sold as lots starting in the late sixties or early seventies. Folks who had migrated bought the lots and now those returning residents have attracted others.

St. Thomas is the 'lucky' forgotten parish. The lack of tourism, crime and industries keeps Retreat a 'secret'. You should be able to find it on Google maps.

In reply to cricketmygame

Bhai, I know what it is! Just wanted to see the other Bhai's knew their history!

In reply to Headley

Check your PM

This is all so confusing.

Just last week there was a thread showing Yardies 'eating themselves into the grave', now we're showing them at the top of the curve for life expectancy.

Who do we believe?

In reply to Drapsey

man this is just one dataset...albeit from the worldbank and up to 2014

do u have census data?

In reply to doosra

No, I just read what's fed to me on the messagebaord.

In reply to Drapsey

Hopefully you're not fed KFC...

In reply to RemainsUnknown

I only do KFC once a year when I drive through Corbin, Kentucky.

In reply to RemainsUnknown

i have come off of most junk food about 5 years now...

the last time i drank sweet drink was 2003

i don't drink alcohol or smoke

i am think 3 figures

In reply to Drapsey

Kiss cake in dem skunt.