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Dowrich is a shopkeeper. So too is Shai Hope...

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 10:58:57 

...The best keeper in the Caribbean cannot even get a game despite leading in dismissals and in runs in the recently concluded R4D...

Mr. Anguilla I am ashamed of you. Dowrich was picked by Courtney Browne...So go figure.

Justice for Jahmar Hamilton!

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-05-11 11:01:34 

In reply to voiceofreason

How's it that the best player for you always come from the leewards or windwards?


Btw was Devon Thomas not the best the other day?

 
cricketmygame 2017-05-11 11:04:11 

In reply to voiceofreason

Ramdunce still the best test keeper

 
CricketLuva4 2017-05-11 11:04:20 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Devon Thomas would be in the WI team, but he's too busy propping up the Yard.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 11:07:31 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Not the best for me alone. Dujon said Hammie was by far the best keeper on display for the recently concluded Super50. Give Jack his Jacket.

Why you don't ask Courtney Browne why all the best players are Bajan picks? Dowrich really? The Man has iron gloves.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 11:08:34 

In reply to CricketLuva4

Devon is a hardheaded moron. He is not a better glovesman than Hammie. Not even a better bat.

 
tops 2017-05-11 11:10:12 

In reply to voiceofreason
"Dowrich was picked by Courtney Browne"
Can u think of any similarities between the two? big grin lol

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 11:12:41 

In reply to tops

Browne dropped Steve Waugh and he scored a double ton and we lost the game and the series.

Browne probably saw the dropsy potential in Dowrich. smile

 
tc1 2017-05-11 15:07:16 

In reply to voiceofreason

you are a typical dottie

Hammie never dropped, and Ramdunce either?

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 15:15:46 

In reply to tc1

Dude Dow cannot keep rich is just a shopkeeper. He is not even the first preference gloves man on the Bajan team so what is the fuss?

 
openning 2017-05-11 15:24:52 

In reply to voiceofreason

While you focusing on dropsie, it is good to see we have a full time bowler, that is not hiding.
It is obvious to everyone, Holder has earned his selection.

 
tc1 2017-05-11 15:25:25 

In reply to voiceofreason

he keeps in the 4 days, you touting Hammie like he is not good keeper, he is avg just like Dowrich

 
powen001 2017-05-11 15:41:51 

In reply to openning

While you focusing on dropsie, it is good to see we have a full time bowler, that is not hiding.
It is obvious to everyone one, Holder has earned his selection.


OUCH!!

Never seen you go for the jugular so quickly.

As much as I like Sammy...that is one stark thing you an contrast between Sammy and Holder...Holder steps up and Sammy stepped back in tough times.

But...I prefer to compare Holder and Smith (SA) at this juncture as young Captains appointed to lead their respective sides.

 
WestDem 2017-05-11 15:43:45 

In reply to voiceofreason

Give Jack his Jacket.


My name is Jack and I got the Jacket...just put it on, you want to see how close it fit? lol lol lol

 
Runs 2017-05-11 15:46:02 

Chase to Mohammad Abbas, no run, missed stumping as Dowrich gets up way too early. In the end he just pads the ball away into the leg side and concedes a single lol redface

 
WestDem 2017-05-11 15:47:00 

In reply to Runs

Ah dis keeper mek Bishoo nat bowling his googlies.... lol

 
Runs 2017-05-11 15:49:30 

In reply to WestDem

lol
WI fielding is mediocre, has been so throughout this series
Bishoo days looking numbered, Liberty CC will recruit in NY for curry goat lol

 
WestDem 2017-05-11 15:57:07 

In reply to voiceofreason

Rather than always listening to people comments and take it for the bible, why don't you look at numbers and tell me how you arrive at any conclusion that Hammie better than Dorwich?

Hamilton!
Dorwich!

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 17:54:38 

In reply to WestDem

Dude FYI we are talking about keeping not batting. Keeping first as we know every keeper drops one or misstumps every now and again but it is efficiency we are looking for.

Again I am no expert but Dujon is and he said Hammie is by far the best. Dow cannot catch rich should vie for a batting position.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 17:58:58 

In reply to openning

So Holder takes a couple wickets and gets some runs and is deemed all rounder. How many 5fers he has? How many centuries? What is his captaincy record? How many series has he won? Games with bat it ball?

Laughable. Sammy is a match winner. A World Cup winning captain ok. Legacy done set so take time and let Jason create his own legacy.

 
doosra 2017-05-11 18:02:29 

In reply to voiceofreason

yall supported Dowrich over Ramdin because of his potential with the bat, not his technical competence/superiority behind the stumps

wunnu want blood nah

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 18:22:05 

In reply to doosra

Who is yall? I never supported that call. Don't mix me up. That youth is a shopkeeper long time. Ramdin is ineligible as he did not play R4D. Again Hamilton has performed well with the gloves and the bat at R4D and Ateam levels. He is the best eligible keeper in the region.

 
tc1 2017-05-11 19:11:29 

In reply to voiceofreason

I supported Sammy for the captain, Sammy cannot be carried Holder jack strap, if you such a man put up Sammy numbers in test cricket.

Your own board had Hammie as a reserved wk up to a year ago, he is an above avg , a boxer rather than a wk.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 19:29:00 

In reply to tc1

Holder is nothing special. He has some potential and seems morea batsman than a bowler. Again how many 5fers he has in test cricket?Centuries?

Hamilton was interchanged with Thomas up to two years ago. Hamilton has toured and performed well on numerous A team tours. He averaged 46.28 with the bat while Shane Dowrich averaged 13.71 this R4D. Use Sammy as an obfuscation if allyuh want but this is about the best option for wicktekeeper/batsman.

 
sunfish 2017-05-11 19:47:12 

Dorwich kept like a man whose mind is elsewhere. Is he having problems at home? Nevertheless this team cannot afford such sloppy keeping.

Have Dujon talk to him for the rest of the match as a short term solution. Long term, get Hamilton into the squad to pressure him to improve.

If all of the above fails then it's bye bye and thank you for coming. Every successful cricket team has had a more than decent keeper. Dorwich's keeping is below test standard.

 
hawk 2017-05-11 20:03:51 

In reply to voiceofreason

every time you look here one is always reminded of Courtney Browne's drop off Steve Waugh, no one recalls his accomplishments...just that failure, now Dowrich is a target...someone who is doing quite well in Test cricket.

but who cares about Dowrich and wishing him a better day tomorrow after all that spot is need for Hamilton

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 20:31:38 

In reply to hawk

As if this is the first time he has dropped catches or missed stumpings this series. Look don't start me Bro...I have been patient enough with the Shopkeeper.

 
hawk 2017-05-11 20:39:40 

In reply to voiceofreason

Oh please, go and bag it, Dowrich does not require your patience. The best keepers in the world drop catches and miss stumpings on occasion, the truth is Dowrich is yet to have a truly bad game

 
tc1 2017-05-11 22:14:12 

In reply to hawk

time fuh we to go alone, serious as Bustamante

lol lol lol lol

 
tc1 2017-05-11 22:29:27 

In reply to voiceofreason

Sammy batting ave is 2pts higher than Bishoo, his bowling avg is 36+, Holder's batting is 10+ points higher than Sammy.By the time holder retired, he would be the 2nd best allrounder produce by the WI.


Hammy is an avg keeper just like Thomas, like Dowrich.

 
hawk 2017-05-11 22:35:00 

In reply to tc1

he just want a spot for Hamilton, so every fault will be found in Dowrich, no matter what he does

 
tc1 2017-05-11 22:42:08 

In reply to hawk

Not only Hammie, he wants a spot for Jumbo too, one bad game from Chase , he will be calling for Chase to be dropped.

If I was the coach, I would ask Shai to give up the gloves, he is too talented a batsman to be keeping.a decent slip fieldsman.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 22:50:49 

In reply to tc1

Hammy is not an average keeper so quit chatting tripe. Dujon endorsed his talent long time and not only but some of the English players were wondering how he could not make the team.

This is not about Sammy...His legacy done set in stone with two World Cup championships under his belt.

Allyuh Bajans too thin skinned and too bias to see Dowrich's obvious shortcomings. As usual allyuh will get unhinged. They kept out Ridley and Livingstone too so Hammie keep doing your thing. Don't be discouraged .

R4D season: Hamilton 46.92 Dowrich 13.71

 
openning 2017-05-11 22:53:55 

In reply to voiceofreason

Can you list for us the number of times Sammy as third seamer bowled 30 Overs in a test inning or 10 overs in an ODI?

I've been writing about him being a Part timer for some tim, so it is pleasing to see, that slot is filled, by someone who plays his part as a bowler.

 
tc1 2017-05-11 22:57:28 

In reply to voiceofreason

R4D season: Hamilton 46.92 Dowrich 13.71


Does that above data make sense to you, Dowrich won a match and drew one at test level and you quote Hammy best in 10 years.

I dare you to post Dowrich 4D and test, go ahead

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-11 23:05:39 

In reply to openning

The title of this thread says Dowrich is a shopkeeper and so too is Hope. Please focus. Can you rebut that?

If you want to start another thread about Sammy don't let me hold you back. This thread is not for that.

 
Mr-Anguilla 2017-05-11 23:22:14 

In reply to voiceofreason
I have always said Hammie is the best Keeper! Dowrich is a solid batsman and has been doing an okay job with the gloves up to today. We were given a team I backed it. Hammie will get his chance!

 
openning 2017-05-11 23:32:02 

In reply to voiceofreason

The title of this thread says Dowrich is a shopkeeper and so too is Hope. Please focus. Can you rebut that?


Base on what?
You've watching to much ABS radio commentary on Hamilton Keeping.
lol lol

 
NYCGURU 2017-05-12 07:52:35 

In reply to hawk

Dont take it so personal champ. I was talking to a chap who i normally view the games with, we were talking about Dowrich and the tough day he had. The hope was that he not let it affect his batting as we are going to need contributions from everyone. Knowing this board, you should have expected someone to bring up the Courtney Brown drop that took place a centuary ago. Anything else would not have been West Indian. cry

 
Drapsey 2017-05-12 08:08:21 

In reply to hawk

hawk5/11/17 8:39:40 PM
In reply to voiceofreason

Oh please, go and bag it, Dowrich does not require your patience. The best keepers in the world drop catches and miss stumpings on occasion, the truth is Dowrich is yet to have a truly bad game

Two dropped catches and one missed stumping in one inning.

Wouldn't you call that a truly bad game?

 
seaegg99 2017-05-12 08:13:14 

In reply to NYCGURU
Jacobs was a shopkeeper of the highest order. Still though he fought like hell. Keepers do have bad days now and again. That is the nature of the beast.

 
doosra 2017-05-12 09:18:39 

In reply to seaegg99

bruh

that is made up

Jacobs was not a pretty keeper but he was very efficient

 
nick2020 2017-05-12 09:50:10 

In reply to Drapsey

Batting to come to save the day.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 10:51:25 

In reply to seaegg99

Bullshit about Jacobs! He was not pretty but dam efficient! Far better than Courtney Browne.

 
seaegg99 2017-05-12 11:02:51 

In reply to voiceofreason

You trying to tell me you never seen Jacobs have a bad day behind the stumps. Not putting him down in any way. But then again your reply was expected.

 
Starzz 2017-05-12 17:49:58 

In reply to voiceofreason

For once I agree with you lol

 
hawk 2017-05-12 19:09:23 

In reply to Drapsey

Indeed not... definately not a bad game...a bad day behind the stumps nothing more besides the game is far from over my friend.....far from over.

 
Starzz 2017-05-12 20:14:35 

In reply to hawk & In reply to Drapsey

Nonsense... Bad day? He always makes errors every innings October 2016

Link Text

Even if he scores a 50 or a 100 its not worth his mistakes! His average is 30 but how much is he costing the bowlers and the team?

 
hawk 2017-05-12 22:41:28 

In reply to Starzz

you are arguing with a miss stumping from October 2016...weak very weak.......10 from 100 is the same as 1 from 10
leave the young man, if he fails often enough he lose his spot, right now his spot is not in question

were there errors in the last game?

 
tc1 2017-05-13 00:15:43 

In reply to voiceofreason

There is no data that indicates Jacobs were a better wk-kp that Browne, better batsman yes.
Test
Jacobs Games 65, catches 207 stp 12
Browne 20 catches 78 stp 2

Domestic
Jacobs 157 catches 445 stp 33
Browne 139 catches 439 stp 47

 
Wally-1 2017-05-13 00:35:06 

In reply to voiceofreason

Dow hundred tomorrow

 
doosra 2017-05-13 03:55:50 

In reply to tc1


There is no data that indicates Jacobs were a better wk-kp that Browne, better batsman yes.
Test
Jacobs Games 65, catches 207 stp 12
Browne 20 catches 78 stp 2

Domestic
Jacobs 157 catches 445 stp 33
Browne 139 catches 439 stp 47


what did i just read there?

 
tc1 2017-05-13 10:34:03 

In reply to doosra
u smart, figure it out

 
Starzz 2017-05-13 12:59:36 

In reply to hawk

Did you even watch the first and second test match?

In those first two test match Dowrich costs windies 4 wickets!

ASAD SHAFIQ
SAFRAZ AHMED
MISBAH
MOHAMMED AMIR

Its okay for him to have bad days every tests match?

I posted that picture from oct 2016 just to highlight my point!

Every game in the last 7 tests I've watched he has made mistakes behind the stumps..

rolleyes

 
hawk 2017-05-13 15:21:45 

In reply to Starzz

no player is mistake free my friend, and this goes for every facet of the game, the young man is doing well in Test cricket, he needs to improve for sure like any other member of the team.

did he just make a mistake with that catch?

 
Starzz 2017-05-13 15:45:04 

In reply to hawk

Again what game are you watching?

Just before that catch he watch a chance go between him and first slip.. that was his catch!

And right after was 5wides lol

 
methodic 2017-05-13 15:47:54 

In reply to Starzz

that was not a catch, the ball dropped short

 
hawk 2017-05-13 17:09:03 

In reply to Starzz

you catching at straws man

 
Starzz 2017-05-13 17:54:36 

In reply to hawk

And that Mohammed Amir drop at 127/7? lol

Pakistan got to 149 added important runs that puts them in a position to win the match and series lol

Catching straws ok!

Ignore his errors

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 18:03:37 

In reply to Starzz

We need a proper keeper in there in Hamilton. Let Dowrich fight for a batsman position. Even that right now heading south.

 
tc1 2017-05-13 18:05:30 

In reply to voiceofreason

Dowrich might be going south, but the baseball player is leading the pack.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 18:10:19 

In reply to tc1

The baseball player has been back for 6 innings. So I would cut him some slack ok Bage. I know you are very defensive when it comes to your homeboys but apply some reasoning. I have no issues with the baseball player being dropped but if we could persist with iron gloves Dowrich whey can we not persist with the Baseball player. Maybe Dowrich should take up baseball catching...One glove straight in...Straight out... smile

 
tc1 2017-05-13 18:25:58 

In reply to voiceofreason


you are one of the most narrow-minded people on this MB, if Hammie was that good a keeper, he would have been the leedots ball stopper over the last 5 years, but he is on the same level as the rest of keepers in the region.

What a narrow mind, you asking for some slack for your homie and you has never given anyone that flavor.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 18:30:06 

In reply to tc1

Thanks for the compliment. Now Hamilton was not made the Leewards 1st choice because of the same insularity that exists with Courtney Browne's affinity to Dowrich. Yes Leewards is merely a microcosm of West Indies Cricket.

He is the best glovesman and regardless what happens tomorrow tough decisions will have to be made regarding the wicketkeeping position. Dowrich is an embarrassment.

 
Starzz 2017-05-13 22:17:26 

In reply to voiceofreason

lol

 
Narper 2017-05-13 22:23:30 

In reply to voiceofreason



you are one of the most narrow-minded people on this MB,
tc1

At least he didn't call you racist...as he does to ALL indo muddie posters who call out any bajan players..

This skunt from his postings does not live in Bim...and is about 80 years old

Why can't an Indo poster call out any player without being accused of being racist?

 
tc1 2017-05-13 22:38:24 

In reply to Narper

Your own muddies called you and other like you a racist. if did not say it, they did

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-05-13 22:47:36 

In reply to tc1

It's a distraction. They cried hard for muddie batsmen to get a look in and one by one they failed:Chandrika, Johnson, hetmeyer and singh. So all this anti Bajan talk is to take the spotlight of thw muddie superbats big grin big grin

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-05-13 22:49:43 

In reply to voiceofreason

Tuff luck Shane is not going away in any hurry

 
tc1 2017-05-13 23:29:54 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Bajans on this MB scarcely voice they opinion on players, there are more reserved, more like Ronnie king can we all get along, but someone has to defend the attacks by the mob

 
Narper 2017-05-13 23:35:11 

In reply to tc1

In reply to Narper

Your own muddies called you and other like you a racist. if did not say it, they did


If you are man ....NAME THEM


I know ..Pullo is one.....he looks into his mirror and believes everyone is like him

 
Narper 2017-05-13 23:41:27 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

In reply to tc1

It's a distraction. They cried hard for muddie batsmen to get a look in and one by one they failed:Chandrika, Johnson, hetmeyer and singh. So all this anti Bajan talk is to take the spotlight of thw muddie superbats


And why not...if muddies perform they should get a LOOK IN....Why effin not?

And why allyuh insular SKUNTS can't call out alyuh own bajans who are shitting on their tail too?????

 
mikesiva 2017-05-14 13:40:25 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

So, Dowrich should stay, despite his deteriorating batting and keeping....

I hope either Hamilton or Ambris also make the tour to England, because Dowrich does not instill me with any confidence.

 
methodic 2017-05-14 13:49:55 

In reply to mikesiva

Hamilton will get his chance at some point. Before when Ramdin was the first choice, Baugh and Patrick Browne played.

 
Cornfused 2017-05-14 14:26:19 

Keeperbatsman , batsman keeper any why you dice it Dowrich was poor in this series.