proving to be a far better all rounder than what Big Bravo was!!!
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At this stage of their career....Holder is ...
In reply to WestDem
Certainly appears that way even though I haven't compared them.
matter of fact...I would want to bench mark him against Smith of SA.
See If Holder is anywhere near Smith at this stage having been appointed rather young and inexperienced to Captain SA back then too.
similar criticisms but Smith was quick to shut them up...Holder is still finding his way but growing in the right direction.
In reply to powen001
Holder look mature beyond his years...he will mold this team into a very competitive one if T20 don't get in de way! Smith is a good comparasion!
In reply to WestDem
Well Alice?
do me a solid and put up the numbers nah?
In reply to powen001
What numbers you want? Smith and Holder's leadership stats?
In reply to WestDem
yes please..
the TIME LINE will be key...
after how many TEST matches - Smith should be ahead on Wins...but we can look at production with runs.
In Holders case.. A weighting as an All Rounder..IMpact on game I guess can be extrapolated.
In reply to powen001
Its hard to produce any comparable numbers to make any argument between these two....as for being ahead of Smith in WINS, that may never be achieved since Smith captained a STRONG Saffie team and ...well, Holder is stuck with the West Indies...if we get dat two tier test going, then we can talk!
Big Bravo after 22 matches..the better batsman...
Also has more wickets than Holder..but his economy was woeful..bear in mind..DJB was considered a batting allrounder..but his and Holder's stats are quite similiar
The figures are there..dunno why u all dont jus use them rather than make false claims to push agendas
In reply to WestDem
What is your definition of all allrounder..and bettter?
In reply to DIEHARD
A very good question dat....busy right now...will answer yuh tomorrow!
In reply to powen001
Bim colors making you blind?
In reply to Khaga
not at all man
I used the word appears...hence the request for stats to see what the numbers are saying.
In reply to WestDem
Please also provide definition of.."far better"
I'll hold my breath
In reply to powen001
I was referring to the Graeme Smith comparison.
In reply to Khaga
naah man...
I am genuinely curious as to how Smith fared in his first few matches as he too was under the microscope for several reasons.
That was a bold move by SA but in our case..WI just seemed really desperate to try something different.
In reply to powen001
Define " first few"..
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