The Independent Voice of West Indies Cricket

Message Board Archives

Powell stewpps! Another start wasted!

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 10:48:23 

evil

 
anandgb 2017-05-12 10:49:35 

In reply to voiceofreason

Annoying

 
Runs 2017-05-12 10:50:31 

One word, dunceness lol

 
thefacts 2017-05-12 10:51:24 

In reply to voiceofreason

Another Word, Brainless!

 
DIEHARD 2017-05-12 10:52:07 

In reply to voiceofreason

Man mantaining that 30s average

 
thefacts 2017-05-12 10:55:47 

I think Powell, needs one go at No.6.... he really isn't for the top order.

Let Hety open

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 10:57:10 

In reply to DIEHARD

I think he has had 4 starts this series and nothing to show for it. Not good enough.

 
SirGarny 2017-05-12 10:57:19 

In reply to voiceofreason

Poweel out..right on schedule...usually goes in the thirties

evil cry cry sad sad

 
mikesiva 2017-05-12 11:00:56 

In reply to SirGarny

That's 22 consecutive Test innings without passing the half-century mark.
rolleyes
His Test average is 27.93....

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-05-12 11:02:13 

In reply to voiceofreason

Don't you have a better player from li or wi to replace him? big grin big grin

Or you want me to find a Bajan? big grin

 
SirGarny 2017-05-12 11:05:20 

In reply to mikesiva

That's 22 consecutive Test innings without passing the half-century mark.


didn't realize that...

goes nicely with that upper twenties test average

wink sad

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 11:12:42 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

How about Omar Phillips? Alleyne?
smile

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 11:13:56 

In reply to mikesiva

It must be noted that there was a 2 year gap between there somewhere. Let us be fair to him now.

 
SirGarny 2017-05-12 11:15:26 

In reply to voiceofreason


Time off for his baseball pursuits....

Sad Reasoner..he's a more than capable batsman...
sad

 
jacksprat 2017-05-12 11:20:01 

There is a reason why he averages in the 20s after debuting more than 6 years ago.

But, having seen him live, I frankly think he is a much better batsman than his average suggests.

 
mikesiva 2017-05-12 11:20:12 

In reply to voiceofreason

No excuse. Once you're given a second chance, you need to show that you're a better player than the one that was dropped. We're still waiting....

It's the same standard that applied to Devon Smith and Darren Ganga. And right now, I don't see how Powell is a significant improvement on either of them.

 
thomasthomas 2017-05-12 11:24:15 

In reply to mikesiva

+1

 
jacksprat 2017-05-12 11:39:40 

Before his so-called 2 year gap, specialist opener, Powell, was still averaging in the 20s, a la Devon Smith & Darren Ganga, and was dropped because of lack of production.

 
DIEHARD 2017-05-12 11:42:48 

Well..who's gonna replace him.

That 30 average makes him our 2nd best batsman this series so far lol

Regionally...the contenders...i cant say they gonna average more than 30 in Tests either..cos they averaging 30s or less at FC.

Powell has at least produced a Test century..

He should be persisted with

Maybe after being beaten within an inch of his life..shock therapy

 
tc1 2017-05-12 11:47:06 

In reply to voiceofreason

better options than Powder Puff

 
jacksprat 2017-05-12 12:04:46 

The likes of Powell & Brathwaite are supposed to be two pillars of our "star team" which was firstas been touted,circa since 2010, to replace the 'team of stars' comprising the likes of Leadfoot Gayle, Sarwan & Bravo.

 
cherri 2017-05-12 12:31:19 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Wonder wuh he would call Powell?.....he know that Shai and Shane are shopkeepers.....

rolleyes

 
aliaskid13 2017-05-12 12:34:05 

In reply to voiceofreason

his overconfidence against spinners is getting him into trouble too often. All he need is more patience. He still easily one of the best top order batsmen we have. Don't listen to these people on here who talk just to talk. Opening the batting in international cricket isn't a job any and everybody can do. When man sending down a brand new ball at 140+ and curling it who you want to see facing them, some mediocre cricketer from wherever they come from who don't have a clue? This kid has the talent, technique and ability to be good at this. What he lack right now is patience.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 15:24:11 

In reply to aliaskid13

Agreed. He gets the starts and I understand his desire to get on top of the bowling especially when slow poke paint is on the other end. Just needs to make sure he gets to that pitch and dont take unnecessary chances when on 30-50.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 15:26:40 

In reply to jacksprat


But, having seen him live, I frankly think he is a much better batsman than his average suggests.

What happen dumbsprat? Like you grew some sense during your hiatus? Hence the reason for our obvious frustration. One more innings and the toughest one to get a big score.

 
SirGarny 2017-05-12 16:03:19 

In reply to aliaskid13

This kid has the talent, technique and ability to be good at this. What he lack right now is patience.


It's been 6 years so Windies fans are accustomed to his impatience. After all this time....he either CANT be or WONT be patient.

Which one is it?
sad confused

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 16:05:12 

In reply to SirGarny

In fairness, Powell must be judged pre/post break.

 
aliaskid13 2017-05-12 16:09:15 

In reply to SirGarny

Which one is it?


He's still early in his career and it's way too soon since his return.

 
jballer84 2017-05-12 16:13:00 

In reply to voiceofreason

Bad reasoning about him having a two year break. If any thing he looks much better at the crease very steady, nice technique. Brainless batting

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-12 16:22:16 

In reply to jballer84

He is averaging slightly more in the post than in the pre. So let us see if he can build on this. A big score is right around the corner.

 
mikesiva 2017-05-13 17:46:35 

In reply to voiceofreason

Powell out for four. Make that 23 consecutive test innings without a half century. His test average remains rooted in Devon Smith territory.

He has played the entire series without making a test 50. How much longer will we put up with mediocrity?

 
buds 2017-05-13 17:53:55 

In reply to mikesiva

That's centuries per Dottie criteria.
cool

 
tc1 2017-05-13 18:00:03 

Any of these guys ever watch Hunte or Kanhai videos playing a defensive stroke

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 18:02:08 

In reply to mikesiva

Again he has played 6 innings since his return and deserves a proper run. If he fails against England we can drop him and replace him with Walton.


Powell should have cashed in on those starts as a low score is right around the corner.

 
Cricket_101 2017-05-13 18:21:35 

In reply to voiceofreason

Very soft dismissal... casually pushed his bat forward, as if he's oblivious of the fielders around him bat! shock

 
Cornfused 2017-05-13 18:29:52 

Disappointing is not the word , the Pakistan fielders were hurrying between overs to get the opportunity to take a wicket . confused

 
JoeGrine 2017-05-13 18:30:55 

[b]In reply to mikesiva[/

Given his "passport" and who you directed the question to, the answer will be one of "he must be persisted with" or "he deserves an extended run" or some such

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 18:32:24 

In reply to mikesaliva

Name a replacement then? Come on Mikey...Name a replacement? I was against Powell being selected right into the Test team as I felt he was not ready for Test cricket. He changed my mind with twin half centuries for the PRES XI vs Pakistan. Now if they were other players who were more worthy of a pick why did they not perform?

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 18:35:00 

In reply to JoeGrime

Name an alternative?

 
NYCGURU 2017-05-13 18:39:30 

In reply to Cricket_101

You could not state it any clearer.Soft could not sum up that dismissal. Sad, Pathetic is more like it. He is not exactly a newbie either.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 18:53:29 

In reply to Cricket_101

I did not see the dismissal so I cannot comment on it. He missed out on the first innings and should have cashed in but he gave his wicket away there too.

 
JahJah 2017-05-13 19:10:47 

In reply to voiceofreason

Name a replacement then?


Kyle Hope?

 
jacksprat 2017-05-13 19:25:23 

Name a replacement then?

Hmmm! Is this not a case of history repeating himself.

Remember how the failing Devon Smith should "be given a run"; and after 50 tests of proven futility he should be brought back?

And how the dead weight Sammy should have been persisted with because "there [was] no one else" to replace him?

What is the common denominator here?

This clown has absolutely no credibility; so blinkered he is by the passport

 
JoeGrine 2017-05-13 19:55:11 

In reply to voidofreason

Inherent in your question is the belief that failure (depending on passport) must be persisted with if in your opinion, there is no better substitute.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 20:48:12 

In reply to JoeGrine

Again Powell was dropped 2 years ago for not performing. A drop that I had no issues with. He returned recently and has had one series which I believe he deserves another series before dropping him. What about that you fail to comprehend? Should a player not be given at least two series or 6 matches to prove himself?

Marlon Samuels has been given numerous series to prove himself and yet he was picked over and over and over again and his test average is 32.64 after 71 tests. I never once heard you or dumbsprat calling for his removal. A matter of fact dumb sprat was once famously quoted as saying,"Once Samuels out I turning off his tv and going to sleep".

Allyuh Yardies should have no reason to talk when you all had the longest most consistent mediocrity ever to don the maroon.

Leave Powell alone. He was dropped he is back and if he fails again I have no issues with him being dropped again.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 20:50:56 

In reply to JahJah

Kyle Hope played in the same game with Kieran when he scored those twin 50's vs Pakistan. If he wanted the position he had the opportunity then but what were his scores: 2,23.

Look stop chat crap you hear.

 
Runs 2017-05-13 21:19:55 

Sadly these guys will never be consistent except a rare one off performance. They suck because of poor preparation and fc standards.

 
jacksprat 2017-05-13 22:13:44 

In reply to voiceofreason

DUMBASS, My mantra has always been:

MAKE RUNS OR MAKE WAY!

It is the same for Samuels - One of "Wisden 5 Crickets of the Year for 2012" - as it should be for Powell, the mediocre 20+ avg et al specialist opening batsmen who is yet to average 30.

If any of them had Samuels' 30+ average I am sure your hypocritical refrain would have been: "Give Him a Run! He Should Be Persisted With! There is No One Else!"

As admittedly mediocre as Samuels has been, he still averages more than all of your homeboys of recent vintage.

Still, Youtube gives me a chance to watch him bat so I have no complaint about him being rightfully dropped because he has not delivered as consistently as his talent would warrant

As I said, you are a clown with no credibility!

 
Pacy 2017-05-13 23:50:23 

In reply to voiceofreason

Kyle hope had been consistent and had a better FC season than Powell. Powell cannot be kept at a higher standard d because of one innings against Pakistan.

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 23:51:07 

In reply to dumbsprat

Marlon Samuels after 23 M: 28.22
Kieran powell after 23 matches: 27.98

Marlon Samuels played 43 matches after and the ICUNU still could only get up to 32. smile

Yes plugin Youtube for the greatest mediocre player ever to don the Maroon.

You should be ashamed of yourself...But you are dumbsprat so you cannot help yourself. smile

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-13 23:54:54 

In reply to Pacy

Playing against Pakistan is rated higher than FC no? Who was ready to play for Pakistan at the time? Not the one who notched twin 50's? They made the right selection at the time and now they have to stick with him.

Kyle Hope had one good season after many bad ones so let him prove himself on some A team tour duty and another FC season. Montcin Hodge had a better FC Season too but you do not hear me calling for him to play.

 
tc1 2017-05-14 00:20:17 

In reply to voiceofreason

Kyle had a good A tour and this is his second good year at the fc, but Kyle is a makeshift opener and maybe better place in the middle.

 
jacksprat 2017-05-14 08:11:27 

In reply to VOICEOFIDIOCY

MAKE RUNS OR MAKE WAY!!!

No specialist opening batsman averaging in the 20s should be made to feel that he has a Divine Right to a place in the West Indies team.

When Marlon Samuels was averaging 28 runs he was deservedly dropped several times, and I don't recall hypocritical idiots like you making excuses for him and claiming he should be 'given a run'

This is professional sports, not charity.

MAKE RUNS OR MAKE WAY!!!!

 
Runs 2017-05-14 08:24:49 

In reply to jacksprat

Endorsed cool

 
doosra 2017-05-14 11:14:39 

He should come good in England

he played there before

 
jacksprat 2017-05-14 11:20:04 

In reply to doosra

He should come good in England he played there before

He should have come good in the West Indies, he played there all his life!!!

 
JoeGrine 2017-05-14 11:51:15 

In reply to jacksprat

You don't play fair at all

big grin big grin big grin

 
voiceofreason 2017-05-14 13:35:58 

In reply to dumbsprat

I don't recall your consistent chants for make runs or make way when Gayle averaged 28 afte 20! For Samuels aka Icunu who averaged 32 after 71 tests... oh yeah I forgot you did chant that...after his 70th test. Lol

Kerry you hypocritical bumboklaate!

 
Pacy 2017-05-14 14:17:23 

In reply to voiceofreason

I think you are missing the fact that Hayle was dropped many a times during that 20 tests and it was not a continuous run. It was the time when Ganga, hinds, Devon smith and Gayle were playing musical chairs with the opening position.