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I listened to two old timers and one was big on King and the other on Hetti.

I would like to know what posters who have seen both players bat think!

In reply to XDFIX

Brandon King has tremendous potential and this is not hype, I think he has the real goods. That 191 runs innings take a look at the video, nothing but confidence, class and aggression, ending the season with an average of 51. I believe injuries to him and Leveridge cost JA the championship.

Hety is also a class batsman but needs to work on his defence, he will learn but getting bowled several times through a gaping hole between his bat and pad needs immediate attention by his coaches. He has the goods to succeed with adequate coaching but King is ready now to perform if given the opportunity.
Almost forgot, plus King can bowl too!

Guyanese batters have more prestige over Jamaican batsman.
I would say Hety cuz he has broken through but if King wants to blossom and challenge then that's all good.

In reply to Slipfeeler

Aggression always look good until its exposed at the international level. Fact is, all our players will take a while adapting to the international level. The gap is huge between our first class standard and international.

These guys need to learn how Viv Richards got it done. He was raw and attacking like them, but learned that he needed a solid defense in order to succeed. From that Pakistan series, that was really Hetmeyer's downfall. His defence was very poor. At this level, that gap is too large. Sehwag is someone who played away from his body a lot, but when he defended, bat was near pad.

In reply to Slipfeeler

I share your view, King is one of the best batter seen in Jamaica in recent times!

In reply to Raggs

I cannot wait for this explanation from Ragss! So what's the rational behind your assertion that Muddie batsmen have more prestige than Yardies? I think it not only incorrect but also comical.

In reply to Slipfeeler

Maybe because of the following
1. Kanhai
2.Lloyd
3.Kallicharran
4.Chanderpaul
5.Butcher
6.Fredericks
7.Sarwan

All have over 3000 test runs
7 test centuries
Average over 40 in test cricket

In reply to Dukes

The Duke plays the tune with the right notes.

In reply to Raggs... however, the music stopped after that.

In reply to natty_forever

from both parties..

In reply to Raggs... Brandon King better than Hetty.

In reply to natty_forever

Brandon King is getting little attention due to the disrespect by his home team....fuh some reason Killa trying to kill his career...and he did not play most of the games due to injury as some claim...he was dropped!

In reply to WestDem... I been wondering this, trust me West. The Best Bat a Yaad bar none!

In reply to natty_forever

if so, den why him nearer to windies selection? cuz if he so good den he shud hold ah 'Marlon Samuels like selection'

In reply to Raggs.... politics! Brandon complexion is like a Nash.

In reply to WestDem

Found out from a very reliable source that he was indeed injured. I was questioning it as well, because I didnt believe he was injured for that long. Same with Leveridge

In reply to anadayardi... well I heard differently.

Russian said Brandon King's injury resulted in a big loss for Jamaica

In reply to XDFIX

Gimme Hetty. Not saying King is not probably good - it's no put-down of King I am giving. But from what I see, I would like to see Hetty get a long run because I believe he will come good.

Now, he has to do this quickly because the Windies are headed to England in August and the ball will be swinging even more. Th outs that I saw were from good balls that would have many good batsmen in trouble so let's see the development getting rewards as he is exposed to this level and reviews how he got out and can make amends.

In reply to Dukes

Carl nah pay fuh ball?

In reply to Outswinger... disagree.

Tony Becca's take
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In reply to Dukes

While I tend to agree that they were all great WI batsmen (operative word here is were), what's the correlation with current Guyanese batsmen playing, except for The Shiv, the rest are less than "prestige", let's just Chandrika as an example and you might get my drift!

Although I could have easily responded with this very Prestigious list of players:
1. George Headley
2. Allan Rae
3. Lawrence Rowe
4. Collie Smith
5. Jimmy Adams
6. Jeffery Dujon
7. Richard Austin
8. Chris Gayle
9. Stephanie Taylor ( just to let you know that Yardie prestige is not limited by gender)

In reply to natty_forever

1st test:
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Yes there are some instances where he faltered with poor judgement, not because they said so, but my main point is that he was dealing with either the swinging ball at pace from Amir, or the big spinning and bouncing ball from Shah, neither of which were easy. This is why I said good batsmen would have to pull out their best techniques to play most these balls he got out with.

In other words, I cannot fault him for playing rash shots, or lazily giving away his wicket, or being just out-to-sea against Pak bowling. It took good skill to play the balls he was facing and he faltered due to some chinks in his defensive armour and inexperience. I'm simply giving him time because I believe he will be a better batsman once he looks at these and figures out how to deal with these types of deliveries. It was no walk in the park.

In reply to Slipfeeler

Wait, iCON nat in dat list?

In reply to doosra

lol The Icon made the list but I wanted to avoîd any controversy with Mr Prestige!

In reply to Narper

The beauty with peeps who are into conspiracy theories, is the fact that they have no regard for facts or the truth. Even if all of the Jamaican selectors were to call a press conference with young King present and have him explain his injury,they would still deny it and tell us its politics and a coverup. The truth is that King is being victimized because of his skin tone. Wow, you cant make this shit up, our cricket talent is piss poor and we have another Yagga Rowe that we refuse to unleash. Lol

In reply to NYCGURU

I share your sentiment that while the cupboard is almost bare, we are acting like we have talent galore in waiting by refusing to play certain players, usually based on non-cricketing reasons. Next season I would love to see Brandon King; Leveridge; the return of Bonner at JA opening position with Stephen Taylor, opening with him; while Allen also looks good; Derval Green has potential; while Andre McCarthy needs to start believing in his enormous talent, he is playing way below his potential; Walton could play #3 position, Campbell always brilliant with bat and ball; Thomas needs a break out season; Russell should be back for next season and Capt Miller at the helm as best spinner in the region, partnering with the talented Jacobs, twin spin.

Team might be:
1. S. Taylor
2. Bonner
3. Walton (Wk)
4. Campbell
5. King
6. McCarthy
7. Allen
8. Miller ( Cpt)
9. Jacobs
10. J. Taylor
11. Leveridge
12. D. Greene
13. Thomas (Yardie)

In reply to doosra

Ave 36

In reply to natty_forever

Why that did not affect Gomez?

In reply to Narper

stats is only one part of the story man

In reply to doosra

In de day....if you don't make the 40 test average then you are mediocre at the highest level...same with 50 for greatness

In reply to Slipfeeler

Staphanie Taylor...



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In reply to NYCGURU
So you choose to continue with a comspiracy theory rather than come with the facts. What utter rubbish you write.

In reply to jelfew

Why dont you try reading my post a little slower and try to grasp my point. Did you not see me state that conspiracy theorists have no regard for truth or facts. I was laughing at the theory that young King was not hurt and was somehow being held back because of politics or skin tone. All tongue in cheek lad. Even though i love Jamaica and have visited the last three years and the recent test against Pakistan, am not from there and no nothing about their so called politics.I was poking fun at the sad theory and you missed it by a mile. Lol

In reply to NYCGURU

That what I thought first when I read it. But then your your last sentence? Oh! I see. Thanks for the explanation. My sincere apology. I too see these as only comspiracy theories without substance. Sorry...again my apology.

In reply to jelfew

No worries champ. I thought it sad that at a time when we are surely in need of cricket talent,we would be keeping a young man down who could be part of the solution for reasons other than cricket. Am looking forward to seing him bat like all the others who i have not seen.

In reply to Slipfeeler

Slipfeeler.....hic, hic....I tink is wha under de slip, but anyway, you not gine put Rovman in you team? wuh happen deh?

In reply to Outswinger

Man is now T20 specialist but will make team if available for selection, same for Chris Gayle, Marlon Samuels, Blackwood, Cotterrell, and Russell. Jamaica A team playing since the senior team members are all unavailable to play for the last three seasons for various reasons.