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Carmelo to Cavs?

 
problemjay 2017-06-24 10:33:15 

So Lebron, Irving and Carmelo on the same team? well Warriors fans cannot cry since Durant did the same twisted

 
deanjones 2017-06-24 10:55:18 

In reply to problemjay

Source?

 
problemjay 2017-06-24 10:56:22 

In reply to deanjones

dais d rumour, won't be made public until its finalized

 
ProWI 2017-06-24 14:12:29 

In reply to problemjay

And Trump to Quantanamo Bay.

Dat ain't no rumour.

 
DukeStreet 2017-06-25 14:38:06 

In reply to problemjay
Carmelo ain't leaving NY. He doesn't like to step outside of his comfort zone.

 
Tryangle 2017-06-26 11:02:41 

Latest rumour I heard this morning was the revival of the Banana Boat rumour of Chris Paul, Melo, Wade and LeBron.

Seems Melo is poised to stay in NY even if just out of spite for Phil Jackson. And good for him.

 
SirGarny 2017-06-26 11:55:34 

In reply to problemjay


Any team with Carmelo Anthony on it has a serious defensive liability! Off the Cleveland bench...yes... but certainly not a starter!

 
Tryangle 2017-06-26 13:20:07 

In reply to SirGarny

Carmelo kind of has the same issues Dwight Howard does but in reverse. The kind of star player who doesn't necessarily make his teammates better, while having significant deficiencies in their game. Last player made 'better' by Melo's presence was Hakim Warrick. At least Howard has a couple of DPOYs to his resume.

Even worse for Melo is that the Knicks brand, big as it is, is so toxic at the moment, what quality FA is going to want to join up?

 
SirGarny 2017-06-26 13:26:32 

In reply to Tryangle


he Knicks brand, big as it is, is so toxic at the moment, what quality FA is going to want to join up?


How many coaches is that the last 10 years? D'Antoni, Fisher, Mike Woodson, Hornacek, Rambis, Isaiah Thomas...

 
WestDem 2017-06-26 22:11:13 

In reply to SirGarny

Isiah Thomas? lol lol lol

 
Tryangle 2017-06-27 09:11:31 

In reply to SirGarny

I feel for Woodson. He was willing to work with the system and Phil sent him packing for his own guy, and we know how that went.

 
SirGarny 2017-06-27 16:15:36 

In reply to Tryangle

Agree 100%

 
Ayenmol 2017-06-27 16:28:20 

Cant believe you all are talking about this. They say you should not spread rumours, and thats when you are part of the circle. Why would any one bother to discuss a "rumour" from someone not even in the Basketball trade? Or NBA? Or General manager? Or agents?

I mean seriously? Who cares about what some dope comes up with while eating a meatball sammich at his local dive?

I cant stand Lebron. But the guy is smart and only cares about his brand. There is 0 chance, 0! that Lebron would want to play with Carmelo! Why? because Carmelo does not make the Cavs stronger against the Warriors! In fact he is a weaker defender than even Love! He does not move without the ball and is slower than my grandma!

 
imusic 2017-06-27 16:42:25 

In reply to Ayenmol

cant stand Lebron. But the guy is smart and only cares about his brand. There is 0 chance, 0! that Lebron would want to play with Carmelo! Why? because Carmelo does not make the Cavs stronger against the Warriors! In fact he is a weaker defender than even Love! He does not move without the ball and is slower than my grandma!

The one time Cleveland beat GSW in the finals, they set multiple offensive NBA records to do so

You're not going to stop the GSW from scoring. Cleveland showed that you can however, outscore them

Kyrie isn't a defensive specialist. There's no defensive player that's going to have a significant impact against Steph, KD, Draymond, and Klay. If you manage to restrict one...the others will get you.

The Cavs have one of the premier rebounders in the NBA in Tristan Thompson. He had minimal impact against GSW

So Melo's lack of defence isn't an issue for the Cavs IMO. It's all about...can he score. And he's a better SCORER than EVERYONE on the Cavs team....INCLUDING LeBron.

 
Ayenmol 2017-06-27 17:51:00 

In reply to imusic

Field Goal Percentage
Carmelo Anthony .452
Kevin Love .442

3-Point Percentage
Carmelo Anthony .346
Kevin Love .364

Free Throw Percentage
Carmelo Anthony .813
Kevin Love .820


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Good points. But do not overlook the fact that even in that historic point scoring fiesta that game was within reach for the Warriors until late. Cleveland played fast and matched the intensity of the Warriors. Also the reports of Carmelo's offensive advantage are exagerated. Love beats him percentage wise. Just like Westbrook flourished stats wise when KD left, the reverse would be true of Carmelo with 2 other stars on his team. Carmelo is thrashed by Love on the defensive end. Check their rebounds!

It is not just that the Warriors are great scorers. People seem to not realize, what makes them so great is that their best players are versatile. They were one of the best defensive teams! That defense comes from their best players! Draymond, Klay, Durant...and even Steph can give you a crucial steal when needed!
Even if Love was not able to go off as needed, he did provide them with nuff second and third chances. Carmelo has not shown he can do that. Plus who would Carmelo guard? Too slow to guard Durant. Too slow to guard Steph, too cumbersome to keep up with Klay, Cant bang with Draymond!

He is just not equipped to play the type of ball that Warriors force from opponents. Keep in mind that the Monkey is off the Warriors back. They blew up a great team and brought in a star...question was would the team continue to run like the 73 win team did. They eliminated that question in the very first year! Now they are going to play even looser. More scary.

 
ray 2017-06-27 18:07:18 

This much is true...Melo is better than Love

 
Ayenmol 2017-06-27 18:10:46 

In reply to ray

Based on what?


Here's a comparison of each of their best years for each stat!

Best Season (no game minimum)
Points Per Game
Carmelo Anthony 28.9
(2007)
Kevin Love 26.1
(2014)

Rebounds Per Game
Carmelo Anthony 8.1
(2014)
Kevin Love 15.2
(2011)

Assists Per Game
Carmelo Anthony 4.2
(2016)
Kevin Love 4.4
(2014)

Steals Per Game
Carmelo Anthony 1.3
(2010)
Kevin Love 0.9
(2017)

Blocks Per Game
Carmelo Anthony 0.7
(2014)
Kevin Love 0.6
(2009)

 
DukeStreet 2017-06-27 18:43:58 

In reply to Ayenmol
How about games missed?

 
Ayenmol 2017-06-27 18:51:26 

In reply to DukeStreet

Yeah i saw that. but in this age of resting players it does not matter. They dont need him for Regular Season....they need him for Playoffs. The Finals to be precise.

Dude, Carmelo's best scoring output was 10 years ago? 10!!! And we are not talking about a guy who is a dynamo to begin with.

Carmelo's best fg% was .492! His worst, .426! 5 years ago he was at .452 it has declined steadily to this years .432!

 
Ayenmol 2017-06-27 19:25:54 

 
ray 2017-06-27 20:36:43 

In reply to Ayenmol

I think his stats will be more meaningful playing with a winner where he is not the main guy....

 
Ayenmol 2017-06-27 23:32:33 

In reply to ray

Again, why? The man`s a scorer. So you telling me that when he does not have to score as much he`ll be more valuable?
He does little else and at 14 years in the League you seriously do not expect him to change at this point do you?

 
DukeStreet 2017-06-28 00:04:31 

In reply to Ayenmol
Let's be real. Is Carmelo really a scorer or does he only thrive when he is the ball hog supremo? He will have issues sharing the ball if added to this team. I see issues with chemistry here.

 
Tryangle 2017-06-28 09:35:36 

Well if this morning's report of Jackson getting bought out comes to fruition, there may be revived hope of Melo and the Knicks becoming relevant within the next couple years.

 
ray 2017-06-28 09:37:25 

In reply to DukeStreet

With James ability to hit the open man, I really don't see a problem with Chemistry...anyway, looks like Phis is a goner...so, who knows what happens next

 
SirGarny 2017-06-28 16:49:16 

In reply to problemjay

So Lebron, Irving and Carmelo on the same team? well Warriors fans cannot cry since Durant did the same


Just found out yesterday that it was Draymond Green who texted Kevin Durant moments after their game 7 loss to Cleveland. Deep down he knew that a health Cleveland team couldn't be beat. Not even by a 73 - win Golden State team...

Go figure wink