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43 murders for the first five days of July
2017-07-05 19:37:42
2017-07-05 20:12:40
In reply to Chrissy
Shame on you to play politics and gloat about crime statistics in Jamaica.
Escalating crime in the region is a sad reflections on society in general and not the preserve of the JLP.
2017-07-05 20:45:54
In reply to Chrissy
Crazy how murderous Jamaicans are.
This is sad.
2017-07-05 22:41:10
In reply to Chrissy
I am planning to come to Negril for a few days. Is it safe there?
2017-07-06 05:41:12
In reply to deanjones
A UN safety and security officer ruffled the feathers of the Jamaican participants in a regional meeting of waste management interests at Jamaica Conference Centre yesterday, when he warned visitors about the “significant increase in violent crimes” in the last four years and advised them not to venture outside the boundaries of the conference location and their hotels.
2017-07-06 06:34:54
In reply to Chrissy
Why are Jamaicans ruffled by the truth?
When you speak to every Jamican they complain about Jamaica's high crime rate. I have heard this all of my adult life so it cannot be just a JLP or PNP problem.
Why then Jamaicans take offense when an outsider speak the truth? Why are Jamaicans so 'thin skinned'.
2017-07-06 10:11:09
In reply to Courtesy
KYS Duffus 
2017-07-06 10:11:38
In reply to deanjones
Yep
2017-07-06 11:28:37
In reply to Courtesy
Shame on you to play politics and gloat about crime statistics in Jamaica.
Chrissy is not playing politics here....these are just startling figures...
I remember the last term ...PNP's first month in office that January and the homicides went through the roof.
Alarming figures are alarming...no matter which party is in power! Laborites and PNP both want an end to it!
2017-07-06 12:01:27
In reply to SirGarny What?????? Both parties working on this????? Nah, say it ain't so! Show the newspaper clippings! I'm not believing it.....
2017-07-06 12:06:08
In reply to Chrissy
When you post these stories when PNP is in office then persons will pay attention to such posts and take you seriously.
You think and act like a child with your pea sized brain. And I am cocksure that you are a hard back geriatric itch.
2017-07-06 13:32:39
In reply to BeatDball
What?????? Both parties working on this????? Nah, say it ain't so!
CMon...you don't seriously think that either of the political parties actually benefit from alarming murder rates.
IT's happening in constituencies that are both Labor & PNP...St. Catherine, St. James...Kingston..
2017-07-06 13:35:11
In reply to Courtesy
You think and act like a child with your pea sized brain
I think there's a PHD and other letters attached to her name...
Be respectful nuh
2017-07-06 13:35:51
In reply to Courtesy
I saw this post and avoided it for a while. But today was slow.
Question is why would an intellectual do this?
2017-07-06 13:48:37
In reply to nick2020
Question is why would an intellectual do this?
Nick I don't see what the problem is. Like anyone else..she's a human being relating a human issue (or in this case inhuman savagery)...
If this were happening in your home parish wouldn't you be equally outraged?
Sounds like you're accusing her of political tribalism on the basis of massive loss of human life.
2017-07-06 14:56:51
In reply to Chrissy
This is nothing compared to the 101 shootings in Chicago over this past weekend alone.
Correction: 101 shot and wounded, 15 dead
2017-07-06 14:58:18
In reply to DukeStreet
101 shootings and 15 killed...
what the hell is going on?
2017-07-06 15:01:47
In reply to SirGarny
Yeah, record shooting.
Last year, it was 60something.
And they had over 1300 additional cops patrolling, doing raids, gun seizings, etc.
Not enough. It's officially a war zone. Everybody is holed up and in fear for their lives. This thing has reached an epidemic level and our leaders don't really know what to do.
2017-07-06 15:06:07
In reply to DukeStreet
It's officially a war zone. Everybody is holed up and in fear for their lives. This thing has reached an epidemic level and our leaders don't really know what to do.
All this over drug trade and gang wars....from an online article...
The vast majority of the 762 murders and more than 4,000 shooting incidents in Chicago last year occurred in a few predominantly black and Latino neighborhoods on the city’s West and South Sides, and were driven by gang-related feuds and drug wars
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2017-07-06 15:09:36
The crime rate in Jamaica will never be abated.
Basically what happens, and this runs for both parties in power, is that every six months they come out with some well publicized crime initiative minimize the incidences and then these initiatives peter out after a few days, usually nine, then the cycle continues.
I had visions of returning but I see things not going to get better. When you see how people idolize renowned murderers, there is no hope.
2017-07-06 15:14:19
In reply to Chrissy
Like Jamaica trying hard to surpass Honduras as the number one murder rate country in the world!
2017-07-06 15:18:00
BTW, this one thread Mikesiva go avoid.... he probably busy searching the internet for a German tabloid commenting on the Jamaican flag! 
2017-07-06 15:24:03
I bet whites and Indians were responsible for most.
2017-07-06 15:26:02
In reply to nick2020
I saw this post and avoided it for a while. But today was slow.
Question is why would an intellectual do this?
Question is why would an intellectual do this?
It really shows the index of her mind...emotionally and intellectually immature. You see it in the petty President Trump posts too...a high level of intolerance for leaders who do not conform to her ideological rigidity.
2017-07-06 15:42:23
In reply to SirGarny
Sounds like you're accusing her of political tribalism on the basis of massive loss of human life.
Sounds like you need to review Chrissy's past posts.
2017-07-06 15:43:56
In reply to Devin
People were banned for less Devin. That is a horribly racist statement.
2017-07-06 18:33:06
In reply to archangel Explain to me of what u understand by sustained enforcement!
2017-07-06 18:35:04
In reply to Devin Bai...like u does watch Colin Flaherty's videos!!!?
2017-07-06 18:50:13
KPH has cancelled all elective surgery to deal with the increasing number of trauma cases as a result of gun shot wounds and the lack of space because of the number of gunshot cases - 18 in 24 hours from downtown shootings alone plus all di others from previous days.
Patients have been sent home and others transferred to other hospitals.
Please ask that St Lucian clown if he can find any such moment during any PNP administration.
Allyuh een have a clue what's going on.
2017-07-06 19:32:06
In reply to SirGarny
Refer to Chrissy last part and ask your question again 
2017-07-06 20:04:56
In reply to Chrissy
Please ask that St Lucian clown if he can find any such moment during any PNP administration.
Allyuh een have a clue what's going on.
Allyuh een have a clue what's going on.
Yes...you alone have a monopoly on clues. I can only hope it's not you and your political friends orchestrating the violence in Jamaica to promote your party's chances.
You seem to derive a special pleasure from posting such negatives news on your adopted island home.
Be nationalistic and be part of the solution instead of gloating over your country's misfortune which has been taking place from time immemorial.
2017-07-07 09:27:56
In reply to nick2020
Refer to Chrissy last part and ask your question again
you mean this?
Please ask that St Lucian clown if he can find any such moment during any PNP administration.
Damn! Most Unfortunate!
2017-07-07 10:04:19
In reply to Courtesy
This could be part of Chrissy's motivation and if so, the current PM could be partly to blame.
During the last election, then leader of the opposition and current PM Andrew Holness emphasized the JLP's record on crime, particularly murder...form the Jamaica Observer..July, 2015...
OPPOSITION Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) Leader Andrew Holness has described as callous security minister Peter Bunting's characterisation of the current increase in murders as a 'bump in the road'.
"While your brothers and sisters are being killed in the most brutal way, the minister is being very casual about it, calling the increased murders a bump in the road," Holness told a meeting at the Somerset Primary School, in the Johns Hall Division of North West Manchester on Sunday night.
According to the Opposition Leader, whenever the People's National Party (PNP) is in power, murder rises.
"In 1972 there were 170 murders at the end of the JLP term. When the PNP handed back the country to the JLP in 1980 the murder rate stood at 899, a 429 per cent increase between 1972 and 1980. When the government changed hands in 1989, the JLP had brought down the murder rate to 439, or a 51 per cent decrease, between 1980 and 1989," Holness argued.
The PNP, he said, governed after that for 18 years to 2007 when murders reached 1,574, or an increase of 258 per cent over the 1989 figure.
"This made Jamaica one of the most murderous countries in the world. The JLP administration of 2007 to 2011 brought down murders to 1,125 or a decrease of 28 per cent. The murder rate to date stands 601, or 19 per cent ahead of where it was last year this time," he said.
Holness said he was very concerned that if this trend continues, murders could pass the 1,200 mark by year end. He further informed the audience that murders were rising because whenever the PNP is in power, the economy declines, noting that several studies have shown that there is a direct inverse and reinforcing relationship between crime and economic growth.
"While your brothers and sisters are being killed in the most brutal way, the minister is being very casual about it, calling the increased murders a bump in the road," Holness told a meeting at the Somerset Primary School, in the Johns Hall Division of North West Manchester on Sunday night.
According to the Opposition Leader, whenever the People's National Party (PNP) is in power, murder rises.
"In 1972 there were 170 murders at the end of the JLP term. When the PNP handed back the country to the JLP in 1980 the murder rate stood at 899, a 429 per cent increase between 1972 and 1980. When the government changed hands in 1989, the JLP had brought down the murder rate to 439, or a 51 per cent decrease, between 1980 and 1989," Holness argued.
The PNP, he said, governed after that for 18 years to 2007 when murders reached 1,574, or an increase of 258 per cent over the 1989 figure.
"This made Jamaica one of the most murderous countries in the world. The JLP administration of 2007 to 2011 brought down murders to 1,125 or a decrease of 28 per cent. The murder rate to date stands 601, or 19 per cent ahead of where it was last year this time," he said.
Holness said he was very concerned that if this trend continues, murders could pass the 1,200 mark by year end. He further informed the audience that murders were rising because whenever the PNP is in power, the economy declines, noting that several studies have shown that there is a direct inverse and reinforcing relationship between crime and economic growth.
I think Chrissy's posts regarding homicide must always be considered in this broad context.
2017-07-07 11:42:49
I had made this observation that whenever the Democraps are in power of US cities, there's always rampant crime/criminality! Then years later, after I came to the conclusion that certain parties in the region of which are closely aligned with the Democraps of the USA N when in power - blidim badam boom, crime goes up!!!!! 
I want to say to PM Holness, it's not only the economy, but a plethora of things that these parties say N do! They would always, promise this n that; free this n that; no sustained law enforcement - few days, we'll crackdown on this, then slack off bcoz of bribery n corruption; wealthy/influential people not being held accountable - for the first time in my life, I can now see ministers being fired! N as Rush Limbaugh would say - they always want to be judged by their intentions N not deeds!
2017-07-07 11:52:31
In reply to BeatDball
Are we specifically talking about murders here?
Are you agreeing with the PM's assertion?
there's always rampant crime/criminality
...
that's too broad of a description because that includes corporate criminality..
a more narrow definition please considering the context of the discussion
2017-07-07 12:00:52
In reply to SirGarny Sir...stop the factory - aren't those stats staring u in the face?!
2017-07-07 13:06:16
In reply to BeatDball
I'm just asking a question...
the topic of this entire thread is murders...you broadened it to crime/criminality
anyhow...now I know where you get your information and that explains everything!
N as Rush Limbaugh would say
so much for objectivity...
2017-07-07 13:50:18
In reply to SirGarny
Mama P resided over a 1500+ murder year.
It is always unfortunate when people use these things as political footballs. The murder rate has been unacceptable across many administrations.
2017-07-07 14:38:11
In reply to nick2020
That's precisely the point I've been making. Whether Labor or PNP the homicide rate is excessive.
No politician should ever try to distinguish themselves or their party on the backs of a multitude of senseless homicides! I don't care what the statistics may bear. It's in poor taste!
Now if the difference between one party and the other is startling (and each definition of startling may differ), then some discussion must be had..but with the some semblance of decency and decorum. Closed parliamentary sessions would suffice.
2017-07-07 15:45:36
2017-07-07 16:08:03
"In 1972 there were 170 murders at the end of the JLP term. When the PNP handed back the country to the JLP in 1980 the murder rate stood at 899, a 429 per cent increase between 1972 and 1980. When the government changed hands in 1989, the JLP had brought down the murder rate to 439, or a 51 per cent decrease, between 1980 and 1989..."
This and statements like this are the reason witnesses in court are sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This statement above from Holness omits the second and third parts of that requirement. You know they say there are lies, damn lies and statistics. This one ends up being a damn lie.
First things first. The history of the first and second PNP government (under Norman Manley) 1955-1962, shows no increase in crime. There was no surge in murders. Things were peaceful. There was no need for security guard companies or gated communities, or special measures.
In 1972, the PNP took over government again until 1980. While there was a growing concern about young men using switch-blade knives for criminal activities, there was no appreciable rise in murders while Hugh Lawson Shearer was Prime Minister and leader of the JLP.
Shearer was kicked out of leadership of the JLP in 1974. The man who took over the party was Edward Seaga. In two years, the tranquility disappeared. Beginning in January 1976, arson, rape and gun murders shot up to levels never before experienced ion Jamaica.
But 1976 was an election year. And the drive was on to get Manley out of power. At all costs.
That drive failed and Manley won the December 1976 elections.
Things cooled down a bit between 1977 and 1978. But by 1979 the attempt to dislodge Manley went into overdrive, reaching orbit in 1980, the election year, with 899 murders, according to Holness.
He then goes further to say that, with mission accomplished, the murder rate went down. And again that is true.
But it is by no means the whole truth. And to credit the fall in the murder rate to the JLP and blame the PNP, is disingenuous beyond belief. In fact it is a damn lie.
The fall of the murder rate after October 31, 1980 just happens to coincide with two important factors of the previous four or five years.
1. One by one, and over a very short time, the 14 or 15 opinion writers of the Daily Gleaner who were paid to write what turned out to be scurrilous defamations about Manley and the PNP, stopped writing and disappeared. One of the most prominent of these complained that he was no longer able to receive the big money that was paid to him for his columns during the election campaign.
2. There were no Jamaican posses in the US or Canada before October 31, 1980. Immediately after the election, between October 31 1980 and the first few months of 1981, several of these notorious gunmen were able to receive visas to leave Jamaica for the US, from where some of them spread to Toronto.
It has been widely documented that the CIA and other US right-wing sources funded the elections of 1976 and 1980. They were not funding Manley or the PNP.
But, they expected a quid pro quo and Seaga did not give them what they wanted. And so, to the background of a loud and surprising spate round about 1985 of anti-Seaga articles in US newspapers and news magazines including some from his erstwhile supporters, The Heritage Foundation, the external support dried up. Vanished.
Some people believe that is why Seaga was not able to win another election.
To put the QED to all this --- when Manley was campaigning against Shearer in the 1972 election, there was no rise in gun crime or murders.
And when Manley campaigned once more against Seaga in 1989, there was little or no gun murders. Nothing anywhere near 1976 and 1980.
I am sure Prime Minister Holness knows all this.
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2017-07-07 16:35:25
In reply to Ewart
We need to get rid of politicians.
We need to change the system.
2017-07-07 16:51:47
In reply to Ewart
Is it safe to say that you're a PNP sympathizer? Can we be confident of your analysis, down to the letters, numbers and punctuation?
1. One by one, and over a very short time, the 14 or 15 opinion writers of the Daily Gleaner who were paid to write what turned out to be scurrilous defamations about Manley and the PNP, stopped writing and disappeared. One of the most prominent of these complained that he was no longer able to receive the big money that was paid to him for his columns during the election campaign.
Sources?
It has been widely documented that the CIA and other US right-wing sources funded the elections of 1976 and 1980. They were not funding Manley or the PNP.
Who were providing the guns for the PNP?
2017-07-07 18:40:16
In reply to Ewart
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Some of us know the history and the funding of the slaughter.
Check the Gleaner headline about KPH
2017-07-07 19:06:38
De JLP is the government of the entire Caribbean.
2017-07-07 19:14:00
In reply to SirGarny
I am not surprised that you would make that kind of comment because it is the familiar retreat of green-dyed propagandists when faced with incontrovertible facts.
You can say anything you want. Mout mek fi chat. Pen (and computer) mek fi write.
But when you look at facts staring you in the face what you need to do is examine them and then say whether they are accurate or not before trying to smear people with extraneous questions the answers to which you done know loooooong time.
I dare you to go through all of the facts above with your green lens and state which of them is inaccurate.
At that point you can come back and I will deal with any points you raise. Not before.
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2017-07-08 07:58:09
In reply to Ewart
I am beginning to have a feeling that an election is going to be called in the near future..just some rumblings
2017-07-08 08:16:58
In reply to Ewart
The current murders are politically motivated?
I think not!
2017-07-08 08:17:06
Allyuh need to have a second look at Chrissy's posts during Jamaica's last general elections. I will post them when I find the time.
2017-07-08 08:26:29
In reply to nitro
i think a lot of the murders to do with the lottery scamming (the division of the money).
2017-07-08 08:30:05
The socialist ideology sounds perfect N appeals greatly to third worlders, but put it skunt into effect N what do u get? Nepotism, incompetence, bribery, corruption, apathy etc. It pits the haves vs have not - class envy. It does not bring the majority of people out of poverty. But, WI keep singing the tune....
2017-07-08 08:31:44
In reply to rudebway
That is the impression I have as well.
The Bra Annancy mentality is now mixed with violence.
2017-07-08 08:41:53
It's was a good thing for China, India n Brazil to liberalize their economy...we see where they are today! Hopefully, the lil chukoochukoo skuntholes will follow...well, I have to admit, they are following! 
But, the diehards hypoorcites who run come abroad are the ones who are staunchly defending the status quo back home! I'm deading wid laffs. Lmao.
2017-07-08 09:15:41
In reply to nitro
No. I do not think so. Politics has not been the driver of gun murders since 1980.
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2017-07-08 09:18:43
In reply to BeatDball
Nepotism, incompetence, bribery, corruption...
Hmmmmmmmm....... Let's see.....
Sounds to me like you are making an exact description of the US under #45!
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2017-07-10 19:17:24
In reply to Chrissy
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/charles-8216-shocked-8217-by-behaviour-of-opposition-senators-in-crime-bill-debate_104418?profile=1373&template=MobileArticle
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