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Just heard an unofficial squad to England

 
openning 2017-07-09 21:33:39 

From someone who gets his info, from reliable sources.
Lets see if he is correct or close to the official squad.
J Holder (Capt)
K. Brathwaite
K Hope
S Hope
K. Powell
S Hetmeyer
R Chase
J Blackwood
S Dowrich
R Reifer
D Bishoo
M Cummins
A Joseph
S Gabriel
K Roach

 
SamlordPirate 2017-07-09 21:37:42 

In reply to openning

hmm snicker

 
Khaga 2017-07-09 21:39:35 

In reply to SamlordPirate

lol

 
Khaga 2017-07-09 21:40:12 

In reply to SamlordPirate

Still relying on the great Caribbe?

 
openning 2017-07-09 21:43:07 

In reply to SamlordPirate

Heard it listening to Sports express today
SB was not mention, you are close, to the names mentioned.
KH release his, AM also has a squad, lets see if he name them on Tuesday evening.

 
Star 2017-07-09 23:02:19 

In reply to openning
No Sunil Ambris?

 
Star 2017-07-09 23:03:38 

In reply to openning

SB was not mention,

SB ???

 
Khaga 2017-07-10 00:05:37 

In reply to Star

Shamar Brooks..

 
Yadi 2017-07-10 00:43:38 

In reply to Khaga

Who, the puck, is Shamar Broocks? rolleyes

 
methodic 2017-07-10 01:40:35 

In reply to Yadi

ah very average player

 
SamlordPirate 2017-07-10 02:24:52 

In reply to Khaga

Di "prophet" he was

 
Headley 2017-07-10 07:58:27 

In reply to methodic

ah very average Bajan player

 
Drapsey 2017-07-10 08:03:47 

In reply to openning

Only nine Bajans? No, that can't be true.

 
doosra 2017-07-10 08:07:19 

i love this team

little brothers going to meet big brothers

let's take pink roses
big grin

 
VIX 2017-07-10 09:29:59 

This tour will be the most humiliating in WI cricket history, if that's even possible!

mark dat!

 
Ray123 2017-07-10 09:59:18 

I think this young Windies team will perform well and surprise a lot of ppl. They won't do any worst than what the so called STARS use to when we they toured England.

 
deanjones 2017-07-10 10:33:31 

Imagine Lil Bravo, Hope and Chase in the middle order.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-10 10:38:54 

In reply to Ray123

How could you make such an erroneous statement after yesterday's WI victory? Is your memory still intact? Have you forgotten that the last WI test series victory against a reputable team was against England with all our experienced players?

 
SirGarny 2017-07-10 10:51:49 

In reply to openning

Of the 15 only 9 are Bajan...

Where's Benn, Carter and Nurse?

wink wink

 
Drapsey 2017-07-10 10:55:43 

In reply to SirGarny

9.

 
SirGarny 2017-07-10 11:00:28 

In reply to deanjones

Hope's test average is still in the teens...

but he will likely still play over Blackwood

CBrowne is taking full advantage of the Bravo situation

Your final 11 will likely look like this...

KB
KPowell, Hetmeyer
KHope, Hetmeyer
SHope
Chase
Dowrich
Holder
Gabriel
Joseph
Cummings
Bishoo

wink

 
SirGarny 2017-07-10 11:03:38 

In reply to Drapsey

Sorry...9..
lol

 
Star1 2017-07-10 11:34:46 

West Indies tour of England runs concurrently with the CPL. Does that make members of the team touring England ineligible for the West Indies T20 team.

 
SirGarny 2017-07-10 11:45:31 

In reply to Star1


Now that's an interesting point. I wonder if the same "rules" can apply?

 
granite 2017-07-10 12:12:43 

In reply to openning
It's going to be "one setta lix",some people have all the luck,fail,fail and fail but yuh place is assured.

 
imusic 2017-07-10 12:28:54 

In reply to doosra

i love this team

little brothers going to meet big brothers

let's take pink roses

lol

 
tc1 2017-07-10 12:48:31 

In reply to imusic

we beat big brothers before, Nuttin new

 
imusic 2017-07-10 12:53:27 

In reply to tc1

In road tennis?


They certainly whup wunna tail in filling up Kensington Oval for matches against West Indies cool

 
defeyeant 2017-07-10 12:56:56 

In reply to Drapsey


Only nine Bajans? No, that can't be true.
\


big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin

Look you doan understan if wunna gine big England got to carr nuff men from Lil England.

 
imusic 2017-07-10 13:05:09 

In reply to defeyeant

Hopefully they dont perform like Kuk in England cool

 
defeyeant 2017-07-10 13:18:20 

In reply to imusic

you see how England playing these days? We could carry men from lil England, Reverse England or even England down under an we ass still gettin cut

 
imusic 2017-07-10 13:38:43 

In reply to defeyeant

Maybe so...but the best chance we have is with the lil Englanders.

Word of caution.....please advise the lil Englanders not to be rude and disrespectful to the opposition....especially Ben Stokes. Even if the opposition is rude and disrespectful to them.

I heard a rumor that it in lil Englander's DNA to be obedient to the big Englanders....but still.....be cautious in case li englanders get too "uppity" lol

 
tc1 2017-07-10 16:08:27 

In reply to imusic


we beat England before and we do it again.in fact I will be there to see my first match in decades.

 
imusic 2017-07-10 16:17:29 

In reply to tc1

Enjoy man! Should be a good time

 
openning 2017-07-10 16:30:47 

1st Test
K Brathwaite
K Powell
K Hope
S Hope
J Blackwood
R Chase
J Holder
K Roach
D Bishoo
A Joseph
S Gabriel

 
defeyeant 2017-07-10 16:52:39 

In reply to openning

where the first test holding that you carrying 4 fast bowlers?

realistically I think Roach got to hold a seat

 
tc1 2017-07-10 16:57:27 

In reply to imusic

kool

 
VoopsandOut 2017-07-10 17:30:13 

In reply to openning

Actually not the worst possible team in the WI right now but I would go for another spinner ahead of Reifer and that would be Cornwall and this is moreso after Moeen's recent success v South Africa. How is Hamilton from Leewards as a keeper? I would play Dowrich as a batsman competing with Blackwood for that lower middle order spot. The person that we will be missing is Darren B but if we get in a few practice matches for the guys to get acclimatised, we should be able to put up a good fight. I will be there!!!

 
Yadi 2017-07-10 17:44:07 

In reply to openning

Raymond Riefer instead of Roach.

 
openning 2017-07-10 19:02:08 

Name allyuh team for the first test, instead of picking holes in mine.
BTW, since Roach is in the touring squad, he get my pick, base on his experience.

Hetmeyer, Reifer not ripe as yet
Cummins is there to replace Gabriel, when he get injured. lol
Hope's glove work, has improve, so Dowrich sit

 
imusic 2017-07-10 19:12:31 

In reply to openning

BTW, since Roach is in the touring squad, he get my pick, base on his experience.

Couldn't be because of his stats in the past 3 years


BTW....Dowrich more experienced than Shai Hope. Better average (28.77 to Shai Hope's 19.57) in test cricket too. Why sit Dowrich fuh Hope?

How does Kyle Hope get a play ahead of Hetmeyer? hetmeyer more experienced than kyle hope.

 
openning 2017-07-10 19:19:01 

In reply to imusic

Never looked at any stats.
Base solely on experience.
BTW, he and two others would not be in Openning's touring squad.

 
imusic 2017-07-10 20:08:11 

In reply to openning

Base solely on experience.

So if based solely on experience.....

Dowrich more experienced than Shai Hope. Better average (28.77 to Shai Hope's 19.57) in test cricket too. Why sit Dowrich fuh Hope?

How does Kyle Hope get a play ahead of Hetmeyer? hetmeyer more experienced than kyle hope.

 
openning 2017-07-10 20:22:27 

In reply to imusic

How does Kyle Hope get a play ahead of Hetmeyer? hetmeyer more experienced than kyle hope.


Kyle is the best batsman on that team, talk to me after the English tour.
Dowrich more experienced than Shai Hope. Better average (28.77 to Shai Hope's 19.57) in test cricket too. Why sit Dowrich fuh Hope?

Shai glove work has improve, and again he is ten times better at bat, than Shane.
Shane Dowrich, need to get hungrier, he has done very, in the last year.

As I wrote earlier, Hetmeyer is like a green mango, that need time to ripe, the A team is where he should be

 
tc1 2017-07-10 21:20:03 

In reply to openning

Kyle Hope cannot bat better than Shane Dowrich, or Chase or Shai or Brooks, he beat up on the BCA bowlers

 
jen 2017-07-10 22:37:12 

In reply to openning

Dowrich will be playing the first test, at the expense of one of the bowlers, and Chase as usual will do a lot of bowling.

I'm afraid whoever is batting at #2 & #3 will be badly exposed this series, which looks like Powell/Kyle/Hetmeyer. Batting at #5,6 is not a bad position in England. Chase, Blackwood, Dowrich will do most the runs accumulation if I have to bet.

 
openning 2017-07-10 23:08:46 

In reply to tc1

Talk to me after this English tour, you will see the best batsman in bim

Show me apart from Kraigg, a BCA batsman with better stats than these;
Kyle Hope

There is a reason TTCB made him captain, and draft him, he can now compete for a spot on the CWI team, thanks to the franchise system.

 
openning 2017-07-10 23:16:47 

In reply to jen

Kyle was smart enough to open for T&T, knowing full well, an opening position is available.
Kyle will do well, he is the leading batsman in the BCA, over the last 4-5 years, scoring 883 runs in 2010.

 
NYCGURU 2017-07-11 00:12:48 

In reply to openning

Young Hetmeyer is talented and daring. He is one of a short list of players in the region to be excited about. We have enough players who want to block half volleys all day and then get out.Why would you start his development, and then sit him when he should now be introduced to foreign conditions to learn on the job. Him along with Blackwood are the two lads who will take the fight to England.

 
Ray123 2017-07-11 05:55:28 

In reply to Slipfeeler

You are comparing a T20 match to a Test match!! Seriously mate?? The West Indies with their STARS were usually beaten badly in England sometimes within three days! Where have you been for the last ten years?
All I'm saying is hopefully this young team can be more technically sound at the wicket and give a better performance in England.

I think one T20 win has surely gone to your head big grin

 
BenGman 2017-07-11 06:24:25 

No place for Jason Mohammed?

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 09:08:37 

In reply to Ray123

Technically sound? Are we really honest with ourselves and the ability of the team? Maybe an optimistic dreamer. Face the facts the experienced team that beat England in a series certainly had its problems but was never this poor in quality, performance and technical skills, except for a very few on this current team.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 09:14:15 

I would further venture to say that unless some experienced players like Lil Bravo, Samuels, Narine and Simmons are added or blended with some of our better young talented players, we will face some more embarrassing moments and possible the last time that a WI Test team will be invited for a series in England.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 12:16:33 

Although leaking potential team members to press in order to canvass solidarity and support for homies on team with 9 Bajans, is really considered underhanded, inappropriate and sneaky by any standards!

 
ponderiver 2017-07-11 12:24:52 

In reply to Slipfeeler


Although leaking potential team members to press in order to canvass solidarity and support for homies on team with 9 Bajans, is really considered underhanded, inappropriate and sneaky by any standards!
Boooooooom !!!!

 
imusic 2017-07-11 12:50:58 

In reply to Slipfeeler

The bajans knew about this team at least since last week when Andrew Mason....from Kingston Jamaica.....announced on his show that Reifer and Kyle Hope had made the team and that peeps were upset that Shamarh Brooks had not made the team. He also said Roach was making a return

Plan has come to fruition....without the results...but dem nuh care bout results. Dem struttin bout like peacock that they put "X" amount of players on the WI team.

 
tc1 2017-07-11 16:46:17 

In reply to imusic


Plan has come to fruition....without the results...but dem nuh care bout results. Dem struttin bout like peacock that they put "X" amount of players on the WI team.


'struttin like a peacock', that is for Trinis,

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 18:03:42 

In reply to imusic

No wonder the final nail is been driven in coffin of WI cricket as selection is based on Friendism and nationality not performance. This will probably be WI last official test tour of England unless selectors can come to their collective senses quickly.

 
openning 2017-07-11 18:11:02 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Dude, you really think the four blind mice, are Barbadians?
Did Clive as COS, not had close to the similar team?

If you want someone to cuss, look at the selector from your country and cuss him, leave my country alone.
Not one of the players selected themselves, The BCA as far as we are aware, did not offered money or paid the selectors.
So it is nonsense for allyuh to come daily, spouting off on the Barbadian players that have been selected.
That my rant for the day.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 18:49:33 

JA won 5 consecutive years in regional cricket yet that didn't give Yardies any rights to dominate WI team selection. Now a mediocre team that struggled to beat Jamaica B team and only won the tournament because of injury to JA two major players, feel that they have a right to select 9 players to the team, while totally ignoring other talented cricketers from the various other islands. Total Shame in WI cricket when selection is based upon giving your homies a food to eat!

 
openning 2017-07-11 18:58:27 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Let me ask again, Are all four selectors from Barbados?

 
tc1 2017-07-11 19:04:35 

In reply to Slipfeeler

The team that you are referring to have beaten the yardies A, b, C D and Z teams, name your yardies players you would like to see on the team.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 19:19:51 

In reply to tc1

Its not only about Yardie players, we are not self-centered like you guys, we are talking about an objective selection policy to include all talented players throughout the region.

 
openning 2017-07-11 19:23:32 

In reply to Slipfeeler

we are talking about an objective selection policy to include all talented players throughout the region.


Your objective selection is not the same as the selectors, and 99.9% of this Mb would differ from each other.

 
tc1 2017-07-11 19:38:55 

In reply to Slipfeeler
u are speaking directly about yardies players, and have for many of your postings, again name your yardies replacements

the yardie A team performed like the C team every year.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 20:29:50 

In reply to tc1

Sure that's the team that had your so-called WI team, ducking, skipping, hopping and running from real pace, while blasting your pitiful bowlers all over the boundary. Could you imagine the evenly more devastating beat down your team would have received if Gayle, Samuels and Russell played?

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 20:39:14 

Bridgetown, Barbados, February 9 - (www.bcacricket.org) - Jamaica Scorpions beat Barbados Pride by 74 runs in Round 9 of the Regional Super50 Zone B Championship at Kensington Oval today.

Chasing 256 to win, Barbados Pride were bowled out for 181 in 40.2 overs.

 
tc1 2017-07-11 21:37:42 

In reply to Slipfeeler


S

ure that's the team that had your so-called WI team, ducking, skipping, hopping and running from real pace, while blasting your pitiful bowlers all over the boundary. Could you imagine the evenly more devastating beat down your team would have received if Gayle, Samuels and Russell played?



you lost the finals Slippery

OK, NAME YOUR TEAM

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 22:07:55 

In reply to tc1

Lost only due to injuries!
Upon your insistence let me inform you that if any of the following players were Bajans, they would be playing for WI Test team: Samuels; Damion Jacobs; Campbell; Thomas; Leveridge; Brendan King (New player but by Bajans standards he would be on the team,); and Cotterell, a much improved player and of course Miller, the top regional spinner in the last 4 years. Be honest could you really imagine him not playing if he was Bajans?

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-11 22:28:38 

Regional players who are overlooked by Bajans test team include: Cornwall; Mohammed; Yanniac Cariah; Delorn Johnson; Ravi Rampaul, Hamilton, Imran Khan, Ambris.

 
tc1 2017-07-11 23:09:02 

In reply to Slipfeeler


All weak players with substandard avg, you comparing those scrubs with KB, KH, Brooks, Chase, Shai, Nurse, Dowrich and Holder.

The young kid Primus outbowled Cottrell with the tits.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-12 06:33:54 

In reply to tc1

Well believe me my bro, most of your players are just as weak and no moral boosting, national solidarity or even WI selection will make them any better players, that's the facts! For the entire region knows that if an objective WI team is selected from all talented players around the region, including our experienced players, more than half of your players would be no where close to a WI squad, including your "captain".

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-12 09:30:34 

I know you guys are relieved and thank your luck that the match between so-called WI and a full-strength Trinidad and Tobago team was called off, for Browne and crew would have faced another embarrassing and humiliating defeat. As Lil Bravo was prepared to score a double century by himself alone!
big grin big grin big grin big grin

 
tc1 2017-07-12 12:26:55 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Here are the facts,the great Samuels has a test avg of 33, 1pt higher than Jason Holder, Shai and Chase are the only 2 Wi players of the last ten years that have a regional avg of over 40. Dowrich regional avg is the same as the great Samuels and his test Avg is higher than most past good wk-kp.
Roach, when fit, is the best WI pacer.

Kyle Hope has outperformed all openers and Reifer is one of the best allrounders for the 4d or od, KB is the best opener in the WI.
Cummins has outbowled the soldier boy over the past 3 years.
Only Miller would be considered for a spot as he has performed well in the regional.

 
powen001 2017-07-12 12:48:54 

In reply to Ray123
You fail to take note of a structure that has a mentor/s on the field with the new lads.

but get through.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-12 15:48:04 

In reply to tc1

I am glad you mentioned Shai Hope, when a player is playing international cricket forget about regional stats, I guess you are too ashamed to mention his 19.0 far below acceptable test average.
Also whenever Holder has two World Cup MOM titles then you can compare him with Samue, until then they cannot even walk in Samuels shoes!

 
tc1 2017-07-12 18:07:13 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Shai avg 19 in test , but at this stage he is avg 40 in ODI, Holder is avg 30 plus with the bat and 35 with the ball, he is in the class statistically with Stokes.

CB has 1 MOM IN 1 WC, is he comparable with Samuels, Slippery

 
analyst-kid 2017-07-12 19:52:00 

Why on earth would someone be comparing players who now start their career with Samuels?

Samuels
187 ODIs ave 34.30
71 tests ave 32.64

Shai Hope
18 ODIS ave 41.60
10 tests ave 19.57

Jason Holder
63 ODIs ave 22.52
23 tests ave 30.71

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-12 22:00:47 

In reply to analyst-kid

All you have done now is to expose the fact that Blackwood has a much better test average than both Holder and Hope, yet he is the one on the bench. Thanks for the update!

 
tc1 2017-07-12 23:35:12 

In reply to Slipfeeler

does the above make sense to you, Jason is an allrounder

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-13 08:42:34 

In reply to tc1

Apparently you are using regional stats to justify selection by highlighting your two boys above 40 regional averages. However I submit that you are been disingenuous for if selection was done objectively by stats then how is it that following players from the region with superior averages were omitted from your test team:
1. Chanderpaul 66.33
2. Ambris 70.50
3. Mohammed 62.50
4. Cornwall 50.40
5. M. Hodge 44.25

 
tc1 2017-07-13 09:06:43 

In reply to Slipfeeler

This is my last post with you, do those numbers posted above make sense to you when discussing regional averages.

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-13 09:25:23 

In reply to tc1

Are you now doubting Cricinfo? Anyway, as I told your other boy let us end by agreeing to disagree!

 
SirGarny 2017-07-13 10:12:23 

In reply to Slipfeeler


Apparently you are using regional stats to justify selection by highlighting your two boys above 40 regional averages. However I submit that you are been disingenuous for if selection was done objectively by stats then how is it that following players from the region with superior averages were omitted from your test team:
1. Chanderpaul 66.33
2. Ambris 70.50
3. Mohammed 62.50
4. Cornwall 50.40
5. M. Hodge 44.25


SHOT!! Off the back foot with a touch of disdain! The ball rockets past cover point and races to the boundary!

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-13 10:24:01 

In reply to SirGarny

big grin big grin big grin big grin

 
Logic 2017-07-13 11:10:48 

In reply to Slipfeeler

I believe you were referring to this post by tci:

Shai (38.64)and Chase (43.32) are the only 2 Wi players of the last ten years that have a regional avg of over 40.


In which case, then I must assume that you have made an honest, but asinine mistake of comparing apples and sardines. If comparing averages over a ten year period then historic averages for first class cricket would be the rational comparative, not wherever you have pulled these figures from. (I suspect that they are for a one off season and may not even be for first class cricket.) I have reflected the players historic averages, compliments cricinfo below, in order to facilitate a more honest fact-based discussion.

1. Chanderpaul 54.95
2. Ambris 28.96
3. Mohammed 26.94
4. Cornwall 22.50
5. M. Hodge 27.38

I should note that Chanderpaul's average clearly exceeds a 10 year period. Also Hope's average (38.64 is slightly below 40 mark - perhaps tci excluded his first few innings several years ago when he was selected as a teen and then left out for several years after failing to make a mark.

The only comfort I can give to your argument when the real number are put forward is that yes, maybe the selectors should not be throwing Chanders to the dust heap of history when nobody's regional numbers can get close to his.

 
Logic 2017-07-13 11:13:05 

In reply to SirGarny

SHOT!! Off the back foot with a touch of disdain! The ball rockets past cover point and races to the boundary!


You are clearly a shadow cricket fan, and not serious about the real thing.

lol lol lol lol

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-13 11:27:20 

In reply to Logic

Ok I see your report is based on a relative comparison over a ten year period, good analytical tool, however the major weakness would apply to players with less than ten years regional playing time which has the propensity of skewing their averages. Also contrary to your ten analysis argument, we must remember that major reason for dropping Blackwood to the bench was not based on his test average or regional ten-year accumulated average, since he has not been playing for such a long duration but his benching is based solely on his 2017 regional batting average. So how do you correlate that aspect with your ten-year averages report as basis for WI selection?

 
shivnotout 2017-07-13 11:39:54 

In reply to openning

From someone who gets his info, from reliable sources.


he tell me that west indies gonna pick up shiv chanderpaul, and add him to de squad,cause he already in England.and west indies dont have to pay air fare wink

 
Logic 2017-07-13 12:03:49 

In reply to Slipfeeler

based solely on his 2017 regional batting average.


Says who. Blackwood has been playing regional cricket long enough for a fair assessment to be made of him. My assessment is that with a historic first class average of 31.53 he is just not good enough for test cricket. You should do an exercise to discover how many current regional cricketers have a higher first class average than Blackwood. Someone on this thread disparagingly asked "who is Shamar Brooks" - well even that nobody has a higher first class average than Blackwood, and given that he failed horribly in his first several goes at regional cricket, Brooks average over the last 3 years would be vastly superior to Blackwood's.

A few airy stroke-filled innings in test cricket can't dismiss the fact that Blackwood is technically and temperamentally deficient. The thing about first class averages is that they do not say all about a player, but over time they will give you a good indicator of their likelihood of long term success at test level. That's why despite his vast improvement in recent years, Brook would not make my team, but that's also why Blackwood needs to go back to the drawing board.

 
openning 2017-07-13 12:08:12 

In reply to Logic

Mr Stats, you write like you speak, with clarity and understanding of the topic.
Continue, Mr. Foundation.

lol lol lol

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-13 12:21:17 

In reply to Logic

Now you are totally destroying the premise of your boy's 10 year analytical argument. We are now back to square one for if Blackwood's test average is not good enough for WI then my argument is that more than half the players on the team shouldn't have been selected based solely on your rational or lack thereof!

 
timeless99 2017-07-13 12:24:53 

Well with the so so called stars back can Holder merit a place in the odi squad

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-13 12:50:54 

In reply to timeless99

Boom Shot! Straight to the boundary! The positive news we have been hearing today dictates that its no point arguing with them as if commonsense continues to prevail throughout CWI, then we might soon not have an issue with their mediocre players!
big grin big grin big grin

 
imusic 2017-07-13 13:53:28 

In reply to Logic

My assessment is that with a historic first class average of 31.53 he is just not good enough for test cricket.

FYI....at the time of his debut against India in India in November 1974, IVA Richards had a FC batting average of 30.65

That batting average includes the time he spent in England playing county cricket. Richards made his FC debut for Combined Islands in 1972. At the time of his test debut, he had played 42 FC matches

 
tc1 2017-07-13 14:07:14 

[b]In reply to timeless99/ Slipfieder/b]

who are Holder's competitors - Big Bravo, Pollard & Roveman,
if you compare the stats, Holder is ahead

 
imusic 2017-07-13 14:28:00 

In reply to tc1

Carlos Brathwaite and Ramon Reifer not in competition with Holder?

Or dem nuh count?

 
tc1 2017-07-13 14:47:18 

In reply to imusic

Or dem nuh count?



Correct, they are not stars like the 3 mentioned, the 3 are often quoted as superstars

 
timeless99 2017-07-13 14:48:58 

With out checking the stats am sure DWayne batting avg is better than Holder and he is a much better bowler and leader. Polly hardly bowls these days but he is a much better bat than holder and rovman got more natural ability with the bat than our outgoing odi captain

 
timeless99 2017-07-13 14:53:18 

The so called stars are back because of the 2019 world cup and the odi team has done really bad in past 18 months under Holder so why not install a new captain to take the west indies thru the world cup then it can be look at after the worldcup it would be the last world cup for the likes of Gayle and Samuels

 
Slipfeeler 2017-07-13 14:54:32 

In reply to tc1

Let us be clear on this matter, if Big Bravo, Russell and Polland are available then Holder will not even be selected to the squad. I cannot be any clearer!

 
imusic 2017-07-13 15:10:01 

In reply to tc1

Correct, they are not stars like the 3 mentioned, the 3 are often quoted as superstars

you just demonstratin yuh insecurity

Carry on

 
mikesiva 2017-07-14 04:22:41 

In reply to openning

The only question mark I have is over the names of Kieran Powell and Raymon Reifer. Both of their names are still listed in their respective CPL teams.

This squad looks like it's on its way to an English hammering....