HEADLINE: Bravo, Cameron mend fences

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link CaribbeanCricket.com Joined: Mar 6, 2003
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7/13/17 6:07:44 AM 

THERE SEEMS to be a mending of the fences between ace Trinidad and Tobago and West Indies batsman Darren Bravo and president of Cricket West Indies (CWI) Dave Cameron, over a controversial post on Bravo’s Twitter page against the CWI head.

In November, Bravo was sent home ahead of a One Day International tri-series, involving hosts Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka, following a tweet on his account which referred to Cameron as a “big idiot”.

And Bravo’s post was a response to Cameron who, on an edition of the Sportsmax Zone, said that the 28-year-old had been offered a Grade C contract due to his inconsistent returns with the bat.

The CWI immediately quashed Bravo’s contract and virtually sidelined him from First Class cricket under their auspices, while Bravo initiated legal action against the CWI, claiming damages over lost of earnings allegedly in the region of US$120,000.

During yesterday’s edition of the Sportsmax Zone, however, Bravo’s attorney Leslie Haynes confirmed that the tweet was removed and a subsequent apology was issued by Bravo, while Cameron is expected to issue a media release today in which he will atone for his ill-advised comment.

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link CITYBOY Joined: Jul 11, 2017
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7/13/17 7:11:48 AM 
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Sorry,,CWI you may regret this move.....but good luck to both parties..the dressing room will not be the same..and does not auger well for the future.
Adios
CB

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 22, 2015
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7/13/17 8:35:13 AM 
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Commonsense seems to be finally prevailing!

link Cameron Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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7/13/17 10:39:00 AM 
In reply to CITYBOY

Please explain. What would you have suggested? No resolution?

link SirGarny Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/13/17 10:42:25 AM 
In reply to Slipfeeler

We need boots for this bulls*%t!


Common sense? WHAT!

Imagine....the sitting president of the CWI publicly offends a player...a senior player no less...and then in turns demands an apology for the player's equally offensive response!!

I can't agree with you here my brother! This was ALL on Cameron!



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link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 22, 2015
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7/13/17 11:07:58 AM 
In reply to SirGarny

Everything you said my brother is true but its time to move on as WI cricket should be stronger and more relevant than any single individual. Cannot destroy one of the only remaining semblance of our Caribbean spirit by adhering to the dictates of a few or unwillingness to forgive and move on.

link anandgb Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/13/17 11:10:55 AM 
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Good job done. Now Bravo tie up your boots and go practice practice.

link ellisstreet Joined: May 26, 2003
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7/13/17 11:22:03 AM 
West Indies cricket won!

link SirGarny Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/13/17 11:56:32 AM 
In reply to Slipfeeler

As a fellow Jamaican I'm disgusted with Cameron!

I like the fact that a greater pool of players have retainer contracts (even though I think that was more Wavell Hinds doing than Cameron)

But the Bravo impasse is another example of piss-poor management and an unwillingness to adjust to the times.

Why is it every other test playing nation can skillfully come to terms and broker deals between management, players, T20 interests, national & regional requirements....

but this backwards, colonially-minded group of HNIC's can't maintain basic relationships between board and players
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link CITYBOY Joined: Jul 11, 2017
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7/13/17 12:00:20 PM 
In reply to Cameron

Young Bravo is not the answer to West Indies woes...his readmission will create more turmoil...
Was the boss of CWI without fault(absolutely not...but he is the boss...period..and if you diss him then you must pay the penalty.
I do understand this is not the corporate world but there is a structure in place and one needs to respect that...as I said (and this is my opinion..and if I am proven wrong,so be it)..he should had never been reconsidered......thats water under the bridge now...and good luck to both parties and hopefully it works out.

link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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7/13/17 12:59:05 PM 
In reply to CITYBOY

No one has said lil B is the answer to CWI's problems.

Did CWI bring Lil B before its disciplinary committee?

Did Pybus and Cameron decide to suspend lil B ?

Are they on such a committee?

Who suspended lil B ?

Pybus left leaving Cameron under the bus.

Compensation coming soon fer lil B.

CWI made rules and didn't follow them.


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link SirGarny Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/13/17 1:10:28 PM 
In reply to CITYBOY

Young Bravo is not the answer to West Indies woes


Windies woes much bigger than Bravo


his readmission will create more turmoil


for the selectors..certainly.... considering that Bravo can walk into any Current West Indies team ..test and 1-days

which of the "promising young stars" will have to sit?

link SirGarny Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/13/17 1:23:54 PM 
In reply to CITYBOY

Was the boss of CWI without fault(absolutely not...but he is the boss...period..and if you diss him then you must pay the penalty.


During yesterday’s edition of the Sportsmax Zone, however, Bravo’s attorney Leslie Haynes confirmed that the tweet was removed and a subsequent apology was issued by Bravo, while Cameron is expected to issue a media release today in which he will atone for his ill-advised comment.


Imagine that! See more below...

Haynes, a Queen’s Counsel, declined to reveal Bravo’s statement to Cameron..


“But what I can (say) is that Darren has apologised to the president for his inappropriate response, he’s apologised to all Windies cricket fans and, in retrospect, he says the statement was inappropriate.” The Queen’s Counsel added, “we have made Darren’s return to cricket a priority, and (CWI) has agreed to that. While there are other issues to be dealt with, we hope to deal with them in an amicable manner.” Asked about the factor/factors behind Bravo’s latest move, Haynes replied, “At the end of the day, common sense on all sides prevailed.” Admitting that the CWI produced a statement yesterday over the matter, Haynes related, “Essentially (Cameron) says he made an incorrect statement for which he apologises, and Darren apologises as well. Two wrongs don’t make a right.”



Was Cameron sanctioned in any way? Any loss of wages? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO!

Knowing full well that he's the cause of the entire affair, Cameron, by default, suspends an offended player until the OFFENDED PLAYER APOLOGISES TO HIM!

Cameron suffers nothing during the process..other than more humiliation (if that's possible) to an organization already the laughing stock of the cricket world!

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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7/13/17 1:33:15 PM 
In reply to anandgb

Good job done. Now Bravo tie up your boots and go practice practice.

The BIG IDIOT better hope and pray that Bravo's revived career is at least as successful as was prior to the hiatus. If not, he'll have to absorb all blame for wrecking Bravo's career.

link Cameron Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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7/13/17 1:37:32 PM 
In reply to CITYBOY

So by your logic, you destroy a promising player's career for one tweet, using an approach that broke all the established disciplinary processes? You say there is a structure. Was the structure followed? The player suffers while the administrator, who should know better, continues to draw his fat salary. And that is justice? No one says that Bravo is the answer to Windies woes. But destroying the career of your best batsman-- by any measure -- makes it even worse, not better.

link jacksparrow Joined: May 19, 2007
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7/13/17 1:39:11 PM 
This is good news.Finally some positive moves this year from the administration and selectors.Does not mean we gonna beat up anyone consistently just yet but it was either this or playing in the 2nd tier.Glad to see some of the big names with the youth combining for winning combinations. LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME GREAT MATCHES FROM OUR BOYS!

link SirGarny Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/13/17 1:39:59 PM 
In reply to Cameron

Well stated...(sorry the protagonist has the same surname as you)...he can certainly benefit from your reasoning!

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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7/13/17 1:55:58 PM 
In reply to jacksparrow

u have a short memory, the stars took up to 8th ranking

link CITYBOY Joined: Jul 11, 2017
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7/13/17 3:31:56 PM 
In reply to Cameron

Bravo has controlled his own downfall....no one helped..
he walked away three times from West Indies cricket for real,imagined or supposedly vindictive reasons.
Anyway as I said "good luck to both parties".

Adios
CB

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/13/17 3:42:28 PM 
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u have a short memory, the stars took up to 8th ranking

And the bajans have us in 2nd tier, losing to Afghanistan, and not qualifying for ICC Champions trophy

Conclusion.....bajans wusserer than the "stars" cool

link carl0002 Joined: Apr 16, 2003
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7/13/17 3:44:26 PM 
In reply to Cameron
Listen, I dont understand. Bravo was given a way to return to WI cricket long ago. The same thing that he ended up doing today, was provided as a solution long long aga. As part of that solution Cameron was also supposed to issue a statement which is the same thing Cameron did today. Bravo for whatever reason chose to pursue legal action.

So it seems Bravo more culpable in destroying his own career (to use your words) because the same action he took today was available as a solution long ago. Can you really claim damages and blame others for your demise when the action you took today to return to WI cricket was offered and available to you months ago?

link rubberd Joined: Apr 2, 2010
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7/13/17 3:55:06 PM 
In reply to carl0002

It is simple, if CWI stopped Bravo from playing CPL then they would have to pay him for that too.
It is that simple. This was a decision arrived at after involving 2 presidents of TTCB and a past president of WICB and one of the best legal brains from the CCJ.

Simple, as Mr. Haynes said you cannot punish a man more than once for the same offence.

link Ridge Joined: Jan 30, 2004
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7/13/17 3:55:34 PM 
Imagine it took six months for a man to say sorry.
Pride is a bad thing.

link Star Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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7/13/17 3:59:27 PM 
In reply to Cameron
Mr.Cameron, I think you made the correct decision.

It is a decision for the betterment of West Indies cricket in the long run and I honestly believe you will earn the respect of all the players.

link Star Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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7/13/17 4:08:20 PM 
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
A GOOD DAY FOR WEST INDIES CRICKET.

I applaud Mr.Jimmy Adams for the common sense approach to solving some of the problems with West Indies Cricket.

I also applaud Dave Cameron for applying rational thought, logic and common sense to the decision making process.

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