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For those who love the Democrats....

 
Ninetenjack 2017-07-13 09:05:47 

I give you the Socialist Republic of Illinois....

This is what happens when politicians run out of things to tax....

California is next.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-dissolving-illinois-kass-met-20170620-column.html

 
Ninetenjack 2017-07-13 13:26:57 

There is an economic migration occurring in the US, the flow from heavily taxed and bankrupt states to ones which are not.

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 13:30:10 

In reply to Ninetenjack

Trump's piss will trickle down and you'll all be singing kumbaya like 2008. lol

 
JOJO 2017-07-13 13:37:33 

In reply to Ninetenjack

You should really stay away from stuff you know so little about.

Two states: California--Kansas. Go read up on the experiments and experiences.

And there is a third one: Louisiana.

 
Ninetenjack 2017-07-13 13:39:18 

In reply to JOJO

Two states: California--Kansas. Go read up on the experiments and experiences.


Enlighten me great one. rolleyes

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 13:45:35 

In reply to JOJO

De man have his mouth wide open looking up for Trump's golden offerings to come flowing down. lol

 
black 2017-07-13 13:46:15 

In reply to JOJO

I was going to say the same thing about Kansas. This is just plain picking and choosing.

Democratic states have performed better than conservative states. The poorest states are in the south, (with the exception of Texas) which has been the stronghold of republicans.

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 13:47:16 

In reply to black

The poorest states are in the south, which has been the stronghold of republicans.


They also really like their cousins down there. lol

 
black 2017-07-13 13:49:17 

In reply to SnoopDog

True. lol

 
Ninetenjack 2017-07-13 13:50:47 

In reply to black

I was going to say the same thing about Kansas. This is just plain picking and choosing.


What's the population of all the poor southern states combined versus the Social Republics of Illinois and California? rolleyes

 
Ninetenjack 2017-07-13 13:53:17 

Lets not get choosy even the city of Seattle is getting into the act...


http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-council-to-vote-today-on-income-tax-on-the-wealthy/

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 13:53:43 

In reply to Ninetenjack

What does population have do with it? Your argument is about taxes.

Compare the tax policies of the red states vs the tax policies of the blue states. Simple, my dear Watson.

 
Ninetenjack 2017-07-13 13:56:15 

In reply to SnoopDog

Compare the tax policies of the red states vs the tax policies of the blue states. Simple, my dear Watson.


thank you, please show me some facts and figures to back up your claims...

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 13:58:16 

In reply to Ninetenjack

thank you, please show me some facts and figures to back up your claims...


Um...you're the one making the claim Dingbat. It's your argument to prove. lol

 
Ninetenjack 2017-07-13 14:05:36 

In reply to SnoopDog

Um...you're the one making the claim Dingbat. It's your argument to prove


Just as I thought, you are a chicken shit posting lots of hot air with nothing of substance to back it up.

Here goes the 10 most indebted US states are:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/02/the-top-10-most-indebted-states-in-the-us.html

Out of the top 10 one went Republican in last elections "Utah"

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 14:08:32 

In reply to Ninetenjack

Just as I thought, you are a chicken shit posting lots of hot air with nothing of substance to back it up.


Who started this thread Bro? You, or I? lol

I merely restated the historical validity of trickle down piss economics, a.k.a Reaganomics. big grin

Oh, and your link doesn't work. lol

 
nick2020 2017-07-13 14:16:15 

In reply to SnoopDog

From his link:

Richer states have more debt: The top 10 states or districts with the most debt (i.e., highest debt-to-income levels) have an average income of $31,832. The 10 with the lowest debt-to-income ratios have an average income of $26,754.


I kid you not that is before you read the list. lol

 
nick2020 2017-07-13 14:18:34 

In reply to Ninetenjack

Are you making a correlation between indebtedness and poverty?

I hope you know Rihanna debt levels are far higher than ours combined. Are you claiming to be richer?

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 14:20:40 

In reply to nick2020

Let the banna hang himself Bro. I was just giving him a lil more rope.

They hate socialism but want rich people to benevolently trickle down their wealth. Go figure. lol

 
djdrastic 2017-07-13 14:46:44 

In reply to SnoopDog

What do you think of what is going on in Connecticut ?

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 14:48:42 

In reply to djdrastic

What do you think of what is going on in Connecticut


What's going on there? Is the tap water as fresh and healthy there as in Flint, Michigan? lol

 
djdrastic 2017-07-13 15:13:46 

In reply to SnoopDog

You should look into it when you have a chance.Massive taxes on fsckin everything.
I have a friend who lived there back in 10-13 , and he always complained about the astronomical cost of living over there.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2017-07-13 15:22:02 

In reply to djdrastic

...but do utilities work?

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 15:31:51 

In reply to djdrastic

But the problem isn't taxes per se. Every society, since the earliest civilizations, has to find ways to redistribute wealth for the public good. Roads, hospitals, schools, armies, etc. don't pay for themselves.

The problem is more to do with the government's ability to redistribute wealth (ie. tax dollars) in a fair and efficient manner. The Chicago School of Economics disciples argue that smaller government is better and more efficient as the free market will take over the essential public services and there will be more incentive for people to start businesses since they won't be taxed up their ying yang. But we have seen time and time again that this model fails because business people and rich people simple don't redistribute profits back in the economy. They hoard their cash into offshore tax free bank accounts, re-locate their businesses where labour is dirt cheap, and (like the PussyGrabber-in-Chief) they avoid paying taxes altogether.

Both the socialist and the capitalist argue for the redistribution of wealth. The socialist says "let's redistribute wealth through proportional taxation". The capitalist say "let's redistribute wealth through trickle down economic/fiscal policies".

 
djdrastic 2017-07-13 15:39:08 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Sure as long as you're willing to pay probably 2-3 times its worth.
Summed up as everything is expensive but it's probably not worth it.


The state's biggest expense is public employee salaries and benefits.
Seems like a good place if you are uber rich and can afford to live in the massive gated communities...
Middle class not so much.

 
SnoopDog 2017-07-13 15:49:31 

In reply to djdrastic

There has to be a balance. You can't have tax policies which provide zero incentive for businesses (small or big) and yet you can't have policies or laws which allow businesses do whatever they want and not pay taxes altogether. Look at what happened after 8 years of Bush's deregulation of Wall street - massive economic depression as a result of financial malfeasance.

More currently, the Moron-in-Chief is only now realizing that he needs tax dollars to pay for his stupid fcuking wall. He needs to redistribute wealth. But will he cut the over bloated defence budget? Hell no! He'll cut social programs which help poor and middle class people.

 
djdrastic 2017-07-13 16:22:51 

In reply to SnoopDog

I don't disagree regarding trickle down economics/supply side economics being massively overstated or even being a big fat lie.

The main problem with trickle down economics is it can only really work where you are working with a massive regulated and closed off system effectively stopping from siphoning money into tax shelters or havens.Let's be real here.This ain't happening ever smile At the end of the of the day the money/gains tends to go horizontal not vertical.

Look regarding Connecticut , I don't subscribe to the republican model of "A simple solution for a complex problem" however ...
There's a lot of variables in there but massive employment overheads and taxes do factor in there.

 
djdrastic 2017-07-13 16:23:22 

In reply to SnoopDog

Agreed regarding balance.