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With Prime Minister Keith Rowley , Prime Minister Keith Mitchell & Prime Minister
Ralph Gonsalves ; Regarding taking the
WICBC to Court in regard to its Stewardship of Cricket in the Region .

Perhaps that may be the Catalyst for
the Temporary Amnesty deal that The
Arrogant ; Cantankerous ; Egomaniacs , aka A C E , have now placed on the Table
.

My hope and expectation is that the
Prime Ministers will not be appeased by this temporary Gesture , and proceed to the Court , regarding the
WICBC/CWI Stewardship of Cricket in the Region .

The Prime Ministers can take comfort of the fact that the Supreme Court of
India , demonstrated that National Cricket Boards aint have the power that they mistakenly believe .

It was heartening to read that the Supreme Court of India , not only verbally slapped around the Officials
of the BCCI . The Court used its Power
to demonstrate that the BCCI aint all that powerful .

THE COURT TOOK THE EXTRAORDINARY STEP

TO REMOVE BOTH THE PRESIDENT & THE

SECRETARY OF THE BCCI FROM THEIR

OFFICIAL POSITIONS IN THE BCCI .

Interestingly the Arrogant ; Cantankerous ; Egomaniacs in the ICC
were no where to be seen . Never mind their belief , that Governments must
never Intervene in Cricket .

The India Supreme Court totally unmasked both the ICC & THE BCCI , and
demonstrated that the ICC & International Cricket Boards are Toothless Tigers .

Interestingly They all bill themselves
as Private Entities ; the India Supreme stated this :

WHEN YOU SELECT A NATIONAL CRICKET

TEAM TO REPRESENT INDIA , THAT AINT

PRIVATE THE ACTION OF A PRIVATE ENTITY

I interpreted that to mean , when an Entity that proclaims that it is a Private Entity , and then selects various Cricketers to represent India
in International Cricket , it cannot claim to be a Private Entity .

The Court also stated that the BCCI cannot be in the governance of a PUBLIC SPORT , AND CLAIM TO BE A PRIVATE ENTITY .

I recall that P.J.Patterson who was the head of one of the several Reports the WICBC Commissioned stated
the exact words of the India Supreme Court :

THE WICBC CANNOT CLAIM TO BE A

PRIVATE ENTITY WHEN IT IS IN THE

GOVERNANCE OF A PUBLIC SPORT .

The Region is depending on Prime Minister Rowley to take the Arrogant ; Cantankerous ; Egomaniacs to Court
so that the long rein of Arrogance
can finally come to an end , It is
about time a New Era is ushered into West Indies Cricket , where there is
Harmony & Progress ; as opposed to
the current modus operandi of Masters & Serfs .

In reply to POINT

Good news but we need the PM's of Barbados and Jamaica on-board. Then the President of Guyana must also come in.

Hola..
YOu learn something on this forum everyday..

WEST INDIES...or the region is now a COUNTRY....bet you guys did not know that???

Sean Spicer still around.

Adios
CB

In reply to Emir


Don't look for Bim to join in, ever stop to think how much money they getting from the current arrangements? any reform would decrease their take, people protect their self interest!

In reply to Emir

The fact that has escaped many is that
Prime Minister Rowley is not a Lawyer , HE sought Legal advice from a person or Persons , and was informed:

THAT HE HAD STANDING TO TAKE THE

WORST INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD IN

THE COMMONWEALTH , aka THE WICBC/CWI

TO COURT .

Now why is ti that some people are in a Tizzy , to the point why their Emissary has surfaced in this Forum ,
to defend the indefensible .

Now why is it that every time I urge
Prime Minister Rowley to stay the Course the Emissary of the Arrogant;
Cantankerous ; Egomaniacs shows up
in my Posts .

ALL I am advocating is that PM. Rowley has his day in Court , now if
the A C E people are so sure that THEY will prevail , sit back and relax .

However I firmly believe that the events in India Supreme Court has open the door and WE find that the
A C E People in the ICC & the A C E
People in the WICBC / CWI , are not
wearing any Clothes .

Their perceived Power is simply a
Figment of their freaking Imagination .. They are finally beginning to understand & realize the freaking fact that :

THE SYMBOL OF JUSTICE IS BLINDFOLDED

SO THAT JUSTICE AINT INTERESTED IN

HOW MUCH POWER YOU HAVE .


JUSTICE AINT INTERESTED IN HOW MUCH

MONEY YOU HAVE . BECAUSE JUSTICE IS

BLIND .


JUSTICE SEEKS THE TRUTH ; FAIRNESS ;

AND EVERYONE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY

TO STATE THEIR CASE , REGARDLESS OF

THEIR STANDING IN SOCIETY .

I therefore urge Prime Minister Rowley to have Courage , and Take
the WICBC to Court . There is absolutely no way that YOU can lose .

Surely not after you have cited the fact that TaxPayers money helped the WICBC /CWI have a successful 2007 Cricket World Cup .

For several years now , the WICBC/CWI
has commissioned several Reports regarding its Structure . Yet on receiving those Reports ; they were
swiftly discarded without the WICBC/CWI implementing the salient
Recommendations of those several Reports .

There is absolutely no doubt that :

THE WICBC/CWI HAS PERPETRATED A CRUEL

HOAX ON THE PEOPLE IN THE REGION ;

BY PROMISING CHANGE & THEN DOING

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING .

The Courts must take into consideration this Machiavellian Tactic of the WICBC/CWI to Stymy much
needed Changes in the 89 years old
Structure of the Worst International
Cricket Board in the Commonwealth .

The stark fact is that it was not one
Country that assisted A C E in
hosting the 2007 Cricket World Cup in
the Region .

Most Countries as I have stated many
, many times in this Forum , Took Taxpayers Money to make the 2007
World Cup happen in the Region .

Unfortunately COUNTRY BOY seems oblivious to this freaking fact .
Obviously , that means from a Legal
perspective , Those Countries do have
Legal Standing in a Law Court to take
the WICBC/CWI to Court .

That in my opinion aint Rocket Science ; it is just simply plain old Common Sense ; sadly COUNTRY BOY aint
come to that realization yet .

Point

Send an email to the three PM's tell them the Caribbean and Diaspora peeps are fed up with the hijacking of Cricket.

Start the revolution.

In reply to sgtdjones

that is the problem, most people don't care.

In reply to camos

Dude, two parties in Bim, are fighting for thier political lives, and you really think CWI, is on their agenda?
Only yesterday, marches were going on, in the Island.
BTW, I am not a supporter of any government, trying to change a private entity,.

It would be interesting to know what
precisely is meant by being a Private Entity , By some People's definition .

I noted that the India Supreme Court did not give a blasted Damn about that
point of view from the BCCI in Court .

The India Supreme Court was not so impressed with that analogy by the
BCCI :

THAT THE INDIA SUPREME COURT DECIDED

TO REMOVE BOTH THE PRESIDENT & THE

SECRETARY FROM THEIR OFFICIAL

POSITIONS IN THE BCCI .

This surely aint a Figment of My Imagination . Let me make two important Points ,

One The WICBC & the BCCI have
have similar Structures .They also
do not own Cricket Grounds ; yes I
am well aware that the WICBC is the part owner of what used to be Stanford Ground .

The BCCI mistakenly perceived that it
was a Private Entity , until the India Supreme Court told the BCCI that was not the case .

The reason why the India supreme Court came down hard on the BCCI is
due to the fact , that the Court stated that the BCCI was not Transparent ; and was unaccountable .
It also cited that the BCCI was tardy
in implementing the changes of the Lodhar Committee , all this seems to have a very familiar ring to most people in this Region .

Make absolutely no mistake , the India
Supreme Court has forever tarnished
and dented the ICC & International
Cricket Boards in the Commonwealth .

I firmly believe that Cricket Players
can now have standing in the Courts
when they believe that their Rights
are being infringed by Cricket Boards .

In reply to POINT

India's Supreme Court is considering rescinding some of Lodha committee recommendations..

In reply to camos

Not true to say Bim is unconcerned.

This is what PM Stuart said on the issue Link Text

In reply to Khaga

That may be true , but the India Supreme Court sure as Hell aint going to rescind its decision regarding Its
decision :

TO REMOVE BOTH THE PRESIDENT & THE

SECRETARY OF THE BCCI FROM THEIR

OFFICIAL POSITIONS IN THE BCCI .

IN ESSENCE THE INDIA SUPREME COURT

SENT A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE BCCI

THAT ITS PERCEIVED STATUS OF BEING

A PRIVATE ENTITY IS PURE B..L S..T

Therefore those who perceive that they can claim the Status of being a
Private Entity , are in danger of suffering the same fate as the BCCI .

I BELIEVE THAT WHAT TRANSPIRED IN

THE SUPREME COURT IN INDIA CAN BE

A TEMPLATE TO PROCEED IN THE REGION .

In reply to POINT

Which court dey go tek dem to?

In reply to POINT

It may prove to be a long drawn out symbolism..

Thanks ... there are now three of them so quota reached. I will henceforth refer to them as the "three stooges" and sit back and watch the comedy show

In reply to Maispwi

Time will tell , Time will tell . One
thing I know for sure , the WICBC /CWI cannot continue Bamboozling the People in the Region by every other
year Commissioning Reports regarding changing its 89 years old Structure ,and then when it receives they toss them aside without implementing the
Recommendations of those Reports .

I am of the opinion that was & is
a Cruel Hoax perpetrated on the People of the Region .

The Governments in the Region took
taxpayers money to help the WICBC
host the 2007 Cricket World Cup .
Did the WICBC after 2007 , change its
Structure ? Did it exercise Good Governance ? Was it Transparent and
Accountable ??

The Answer is a Resounding NO . I
Sincerely Hope that its Day of Reckoning is now at Hand ; Thanks to
Those Prime Ministers who have the
Testicular Fortitude , to change the
Landscape of West Indies Cricket , by
following the Example of the India
Supreme Court .

In reply to POINT

Do they have the testicular fortitude to fix their economy? nuff ppl want to eat a food across the region but government is an impediment!

In reply to XDFIX

I do not think or believe that Governments want to run Cricket in the Region . My take is that they simply want to restore full competitiveness
in our Teams & Players to be fully competitive in the International Cricket Arena .

Obviously A C E does not fully understand that the more competitive
our Players & Team are , the more People would go through the Turnstiles . This aint Rocket Science
it is simply plain old Commonsense , a Commodity that those in the Worst
International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth lacks .

In reply to POINT

You keep talking about the example of the Indian Supreme Court but what is the equivalent in the region for an entity that I think is registered in de BVI?

In reply to Khaga

If that is the case SO BE IT . 89 freaking Years , and the Big Idiots
bluntly refuse to change their Archaic
Structure .

In reply to Maispwi

THE SYMBOL OF JUSTICE IS SHOWN

BLINDFOLDED , THAT BEING THE CASE

JUSTICE DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN WHERE THE

HELL ANYONE IS REGISTERED .


You seem to be implying that because
the Worst International Cricket Board
in the Commonwealth is Registered in
the BVI , that makes it immune from
Prosecution . I do not think so .

The gist of your comment is that due
to the fact that the WICBC/CWI is registered in as you say the BVI .

Does that mean that it is Free to do anything it wants ?????????
I cannot believe that B.S .

In reply to POINT

I don't have time to read long posts but you really should look up the meaning of the word consensus whenever you suggest CARICOM should act.

In reply to Headley

Look , it is my understanding that PM.
Rowley asked for a Legal opinion , regarding whether he had Standing to take the WICBC/CWI to Court . HE was
informed that HE does indeed have Standing to go to Court .

Let him do that , and WE will find out
whether He was Right or is Wrong . I
do not believe that because the WICBC/CWI bills itself as a Private Entity ,that infers that it can do anything without falling afoul of Laws passed by various Governments .

I found it very interesting that the
India Supreme Court stated in Open Court that when the BCCI selects a National Team , it has gone past the
limits of being a Private Entity .

The BCCI echoed the sentiments of P.J. Patterson . When it stated in open Court , that the BCCI , a perceived Private Entity ,cannot be
in the governance of a Public Sport .

I recall P.J.Patterson in the Patterson Report stating that a Private Entity cannot be in the Governance of a Public Sport that sentence by P.J Patterson is indelible etched in my mind . So I was a bit startled to read the India Supreme Court Judges in essence echoing almost word for word what P.J.Patterson stated years ago .

In reply to POINT

I've been calling for this for ages

In reply to Chrissy

I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE

TRENCHES LONG BEFORE I HAVE & I SALUTE

YOUR EFFORTS .

What I am amazed about is that many
here seem to be of the opinion that
the WICBC must be left alone because
it is perceived to being a Private Entity .

There are Private Entities ALL over
the World . THEY however are subject
to the Laws of the Countries where they operate .

Now PM.Rowley is not a Lawyer , he has sought Legal Advice , and was informed that he has Legal Standing to take the WICBC/CWI to Court .

EVERYONE IT SEEMS IS IN A TIZZY OVER

HIM STATING THAT HE IS GOING TO TAKE

THE WICBC/CWI TO COURT .

My perspective is that the decision of the India Supreme Court has everyone running for cover . Frankly
my take is that the ICC & THE BCCI
are aghast that the India Supreme Court had the Temerity & Clout to remove both the President & the Secretary of the BCCI from their Official positions in the BCCI .

IN A NUTSHELL ; THE EMPERORS IN THE

ICC & IN THE INTERNATIONAL CRICKET

BOARDS NOW FIND THEMSELVES STARK

NAKED AFTER YEARS OF BAMBOOZLING

EVERYONE , BY STATING , THAT

GOVERNMENTS CANNOT INTERVENE IN

CRICKET .

The Prime Ministers in the Region who
are dissatisfied by the Stewardship
can & must harden their resolve to take the WICBC/CWI to Court .

The ICC & ITS MEMBER BOARDS ARE

SUBJECTED ARE SUBJECTED TO THE LAWS

OF THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE IN .

In essence none of them can state that they have the option to pick & choose which Laws they are going to obey and which ones they are going to ignore .

My perspective is that the ICC & its
Member Boards are not even covered by a Fig Leaf . I am also of the opinion that that the decision of the Supreme
Court will have very far reaching consequences Regarding Cricket .

Bonjour....

C'est la vie!!

Au revoir

CB

As far as I am aware CARICOM was not in existence 89 years ago when the
WICBC was formed . So this talk about
consus regarding the WICBC/CWI , is nothing but pure unadulterated B.S .

IT SEEMS THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THIS

FORUM NEED RELEASE THEMSELVES FROM

MENTAL SLAVERY .

I find it very interesting that some
people are trying to dissuade Prime Minister from taking the WICBC/CWI to Court ; by citing various perceived
Obstacles .

If those who support the WICBC/ CWI
are so sure that the WICBC/CWI will
win , then let Prime Minister Rowley
go to the Court .

In reply to POINT

Who is holding him back? Like you do, people here are just opining so why do you think the expression of one's opinion is supporting?

BTW, I don't know of any company doing a bad job which is still in business after 89 years, can you name me one (except the WICB)?

In reply to Kay

As usual you have missed the essential
Point so allow me to once again rewrite the following freaking Facts .

WHICH ORGANIZATION OTHER THAN THE

WICBC/CWI , THAT HAS REFUSED TO

CHANGE ITS 89 YEARS OLD STRUCTURE ???


WHAT WAS THE FREAKING PURPOSE OF

COMMISSIONING SEVERAL REPORTS AND

THEN BLUNTLY REFUSING TO IMPLEMENT

THE SALIENT RECOMMENDATIONS OF THOSE

REPORTS .

Frankly the WICBC/CWI with the backing of the International Cricket
have kept those who seek change at bay for 89 years .

However , that has now been changed
due to the Bold move by the India Supreme Court , which has left the ICC & the International Cricket Boards stark naked .

Prior to the decision by the India supreme Court , the ICC & its Members
BOLDLY declared that Governments cannot intervene in Cricket which was
& is a very Blatant LIE .

IN ESSENCE THE ICC & ITS MEMBERS

RULED CRICKET WITH FEAR , THAT IS

PRECISELY WHY THE WICBC HAS HAD THAT

LONG LIFESPAN .

But as I stated , the ICC & its Members are standing before us Stark freaking Naked ; because WE are now
realizing that the International Cricket Crooks & its Members are

POWERLESS IN PREVENTING PERSONS ;

INCLUDING CRICKETERS FROM TAKING

THEM TO COURT . THE FIG LEAF THAT

COVERED THEM HAS BEEN REMOVED BY THE

INDIA SUPREME COURT ; SO THAT THEY

ARE STANDING BEFORE US ALL STARK

FREAKING NAKED .

Let me once again state that some years ago , I decided to check wikipedia regarding the formation of
International Cricket Boards .

I learned the following Facts :

THE PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN ON 4

SEPARATE OCCASIONS FIRED THE PCB

FOR MALFESANCE . HE THEN APPOINTED A

CHAIRMAN & AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO

GOVERN CRICKET IN PAKISTAN UNTIL

THERE WERE FRESH ELECTIONS FOR

OFFICERS ON THE PCB , ON EACH OF

THOSE OCCASIONS .

This is how I came to understand that
the ICC has a lot of Bark but no Teeth ; because the ICC & its Members
are Toothless .

WE have been brainwashed for years about the perceived Power of the ICC & its Minions for many years . However as I have stated The India
Supreme Court has blown away their Fig Leaves , so that they :

ICC & ITS MEMBERS STAND BEFORE US ALL

STARK NAKED . THANKS TO THE INDIA

SUPREME COURT DECISION REGARDING THE

BCCI .


BTW where the Hell was the ICC & the
WICBC , when the Government of Guyana
took the GCB to Court ???????????
I expected them to show up on behalf of the GCB , but they were not there .