Holder feel good about direction of young team??

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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9/12/17 10:25:54 PM 
WI 3-6 for last three test series. Could have been 3-5 with a little more concentration.


WI 3-36 from 2010 - 2016

Should Holder have a good feeling. Bunch of idiots on this site. We finally have a young team of players who like putting on the WI colors and willing to fight. All you idiots can focus on is what? While the youth is not the most technical captain, he gives his all. The young men around him does the same. Add some pieces to this group and the this group will finish test matches. Inexperience right now is their enemy.

Sir Vivian Richards Trophy (South Africa in West Indies) 2010 South Africa 2-0 (3)
West Indies in Sri Lanka Test Series 2010/11 drawn 0-0 (3)
Pakistan in West Indies Test Series 2011 drawn 1-1 (2)
India in West Indies Test Series 2011 India 1-0 (3)
West Indies in Bangladesh Test Series 2011/12 West Indies 1-0 (2)
West Indies in India Test Series 2011/12 India 2-0 (3)
The Frank Worrell Trophy (Australia in West Indies) 2011/12 Australia 2-0 (3)
The Wisden Trophy (West Indies in England) 2012 England 2-0 (3)
New Zealand in West Indies Test Series 2012 West Indies 2-0 (2)
West Indies in Bangladesh Test Series 2012/13 West Indies 2-0 (2)
Clive Lloyd Trophy (Zimbabwe in West Indies) 2012/13 West Indies 2-0 (2)
West Indies in India Test Series 2013/14 India 2-0 (2)
West Indies in New Zealand Test Series 2013/14 New Zealand 2-0 (3)
New Zealand in West Indies Test Series 2014 New Zealand 2-1 (3)
Bangladesh in West Indies Test Series 2014 West Indies 2-0 (2)
Sir Vivian Richards Trophy (West Indies in South Africa) 2014/15 South Africa 2-0 (3)
The Wisden Trophy (England in West Indies) 2015 drawn 1-1 (3)
The Frank Worrell Trophy (Australia in West Indies) 2015 Australia 2-0 (2)
Sobers/Tissera Trophy (West Indies in Sri Lanka) 2015/16 Sri Lanka 2-0 (2)
The Frank Worrell Trophy (West Indies in Australia) 2015/16 Australia 2-0 (3)
India in West Indies Test Series 2016 India 2-0 (4)


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Pakistan v West Indies Test Series (in United Arab Emirates) 2016/17 Pakistan 2-1 (3)
Pakistan in West Indies Test Series 2017 Pakistan 2-1 (3)
The Wisden Trophy (West Indies in England)
2017 England 2-1 (

link clokey Joined: Feb 13, 2003
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9/13/17 2:06:04 AM 
In reply to seaegg99

Agree - he has a fair bit to be enthusiastic about IMO.

The team are playing for each other. Some of the results over the last 12 months have been impressive (others not so much).

The emergence of Hope (and the fact he loves test match cricket and wont run for t20 money) is a huge boost.

The treaty with the WICB and the return of Darren Bravo is promising.

Holder himself has shown promising signs with the ball. His captaincy and batting need work, but he's emotionally invested and it looks like he has the respect of his peers.

Kraigg continues to show signs of emerging as a world class opening bat.

Roach and Gabriel have been steady and show signs of carrying the torch until the next gen of opening bowlers are ready.

The thing I took note of was how much love the side got after taking it to England - it made headlines around the world. These guys know that if they want to be remembered, they are in the right place. T20 fame is fleeting, but if they are part of the squad that helped the West Indies rise up the rankings again, they'll be respected and loved around the world.

It's too soon to get overly-excited, but the next 12 months is important. A series against Zimbabwe is important to solidify the recent form. The following series against NZ could be a real coming-out party for these boys, who will be much better equipped for the swinging conditions.

There's some talented kids who are knocking the door down.

I just hope this enthusiasm can be carried on for a while to come.

link kup Joined: May 20, 2007
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9/13/17 4:36:16 AM 
In reply to seaegg99

How you get 3-36 from 2010 to 2016?

New Zealand in West Indies Test Series 2012 West Indies 2-0 (2)
West Indies in Bangladesh Test Series 2012/13 West Indies 2-0 (2)
Clive Lloyd Trophy (Zimbabwe in West Indies) 2012/13 West Indies 2-0 (2)

That's 6 victories for WI.

New Zealand in West Indies Test Series 2014 New Zealand 2-1 (3)
Bangladesh in West Indies Test Series 2014 West Indies 2-0 (2)
Sir Vivian Richards Trophy (West Indies in South Africa) 2014/15 South Africa 2-0 (3)
The Wisden Trophy (England in West Indies) 2015 drawn 1-1 (3)

That's another 4 victories for West Indies.

Re-check your stats to make your point more effective.

link Judgement Joined: Feb 23, 2015
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9/13/17 6:29:07 AM 
In reply to seaegg99
Finally, someone who sees the positivity in this young and close knit team looking to build something special. Good post champ.

link seko Joined: Dec 1, 2014
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9/13/17 6:34:25 AM 
The facts are there to proved that we have destroyed our status in the last 20 years through insular selections and rejections. We are now paying for those decisions. Alas!

link Starzz Joined: Nov 16, 2013
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9/13/17 8:41:39 AM 
In reply to seaegg99



How you get 3-36 from 2010 to 2016?

New Zealand in West Indies Test Series 2012 West Indies 2-0 (2)
West Indies in Bangladesh Test Series 2012/13 West Indies 2-0 (2)
Clive Lloyd Trophy (Zimbabwe in West Indies) 2012/13 West Indies 2-0 (2)

That's 6 victories for WI.


New Zealand in West Indies Test Series 2014 New Zealand 2-1 (3)
Bangladesh in West Indies Test Series 2014 West Indies 2-0 (2)
Sir Vivian Richards Trophy (West Indies in South Africa) 2014/15 South Africa 2-0 (3)
The Wisden Trophy (England in West Indies) 2015 drawn 1-1 (3)

That's another 4 victories for West Indies.




If you want to make a case for Holder why post wrong stats?

I swear.... People like you actually believe their own lies....

lol lol lol

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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9/13/17 9:20:22 AM 
In reply to Starzz

lol lol

Don't drink the Look Aid

link Oilah Joined: Jun 14, 2010
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9/13/17 9:37:08 AM 
We have a good core of young players...with a few additions, time and experience this squad will be very good at test level.

link sudden Joined: Nov 27, 2006
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9/13/17 9:38:36 AM 
seems odd that seaegg should say that unless he means against higher ranked teams

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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9/13/17 9:41:13 AM 
In reply to Starzz

Listen you update the stats all you want. The fact remains that a group of young West Indians have been trying to bring some life back into a sport that is on life support in the Caribbean. Adding some more pieces and eliminating non performers will also help to mold a team. A core is developing and that is a starting point. Fiddle with the numbers all you want and make yourself happy while doing it.

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