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Kyle Hope again............
In reply to number09... somebody trying to prove something?
Hola.....the man name is HOPE...that means Hope...we cannot change that...
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Kyle Hope the shithound over Sunil Ambris once more.
In reply to Ragga007
Hola...Ambris should drop the name SUNIL...they going by names..LOL
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In reply to number09
check his flag...Does it have a trident in it? I believe so. The selector's flag is exactly the same.
In reply to number09
Only reason I can think is that they wanted to swap an opener for an opener.
Who will open with Lewis, if Ambris is selected?
In reply to CricketLuva4
Fans on this board, just want to see a player selected
There are two slots available for Ambris on the team, wicketkeeping and batting in his usual position.
All I see are a bunch of LAME EXCUSES why Kyle Hope is in the squad and not Sunil Ambris.
Sunil is more talented than Kyle.
Put him to open and he will produce more than Kyle.
Kyle is a shithound.
In reply to openning
Excuses
In reply to imusic
These same people cussed the selectors, when Johnson and Shai were opening.
You are aware, that Kyle and Lewis opens for T&T in the regional 50 ovrs competition.
In reply to openning... you sure is the same people?
In reply to openning
Ambris has opened for WI U19, CCC, and Windwards. He has been batting in the middle dese days cause Devon eh moving down de order and he has provided stability dere.
WI is de only team dat insists on so called openers starting de innings in ODI even after a number six batsman open and score a ton against dem.
In reply to Maispwi
What position is he now batting for the Windwards?
This is cricket at the highest level, you just don't put a guy in a position, that he has not worked on, prior to competition.
You can do that in a curry goat match
In reply to Maispwi
In ODIs specialist bats should be capable of batting anywhere and management should be willing to try different things in terms of batting order.
In reply to openning... what you saying they aint no Shiv?
In reply to Andy99... that's my feelings also.
All batsmen from 1-5 should be capable of facing the new ball. In fact most prefer to if you ask them....
In reply to Kay
I will replace most with the good - best players prefer.
If you are arguing based on the recent completed test series that Kyle Hope is no good then one could have argued for the selection of Roach test series avg 11 wkts @29.81 and ODI avg 99 wkts @ 28.10 econ 4.98 OVER TAYLOR
Kyle Hope with scores of 19,35,46 in three ODIs avg 33.33 is performing better in ODIs.... very similar to his brother's position before the English Test series.
In reply to natty_forever
What I am saying to Andy99, International cricket is not a place to try anyone, without preparing him for the position
In reply to openning
So we are a curry goat team? What position Bairstow bats for England?
Not because Kyle is a Bajan you shud chat dat $hite
In reply to analyst-kid
Look put away de Bajan flag. Nobody talking averages here, cause you cyah win dat argument.
I have a problem with using 30 year olds with marginally better stats in some cases over younger players. And dat includes J Mo.
In reply to openning... agree with Test, not so much ODI and T20s.
In reply to Maispwi... don't think we can afford that, especially when JMo is now coming to hand, what guarantee we have that the youngster can swim? WI are late bloomers.
In reply to openning
An ODI innings is at most 50 overs. #5 batsman have come during the first 5 overs many times, other times a #5 may have to come in during the last 5 overs. You have to be prepared to bat anywhere.
Its just 50 overs, and specifically for specialists bats the longer u get to bat the better for you.
And btw since I got your attention, you does keeping on harping about people bigging up T20 performances for ODI and Test selections, hell you even talking about Lewis, well just thought I'd remind you that Beaton, you know the guy you are excited about and want around the Test team, did not play a first class game in the last season and that his last 4-day game was more than a year ago.
In reply to Maispwi
I am sure Birstow opens for his county in 50 over competition.
Dude, I've always been an Independent thinking individual, who was born in Barbados.
This is what I men by preparation.
Bairstow opened in Englands previous ODI, the Champions Trophy semi-final against Pakistan in Cardiff in June, scoring 43, and The Times understands that he will be given another opportunity to open with Alex Hales in the five-match series.
Jonny Bairstow to get chance as England ODI opener
In reply to openning
In reply to Andy99
I am a fan of both Lewis and Beaton, so if they both want to play League T20, and refuse to play 50 ovrs and 4-day cricket, they should not be selected.
Lewis has the opportunity to be just like Warner, but he cannot develop as a batsman, by playing only 20 over cricket.
In reply to natty_forever
Late bloomers shud knock down de door wid exceptional performances. These fellas stats are nothing to write home about. We are arguing over people with List A averages of under 40 at age 30
In reply to natty_forever
Jonny Bairstow set to open Yorkshire batting in Royal London Cup?
In reply to Maispwi... well look at it from the last year. And that's why his is marginally better. Lets see what it is like in another year.
In reply to openning... that's just planning, which seems to be lost on us. BTW did he?
In reply to openning
Man you chatting $hite again. This is Bairstows 3rd time opening in ODIs. Of his 25 ODI innings 17 have been at 5 and 6 with 11 at 6. So do your homework before you start quoting articles.
In reply to natty_forever
Dude, Bairstow knew he was going to open the inning, prior to the series, he was able to pre pare for the position.
England did not put him in a position, without preparing him for it.
See here
In reply to Maispwi
Bro, settle down and read what posted.
I would be shocked, if an International team, open with a batsman without preparing him for the position.
BTW, Narine can open in T20, he has been doing it, in the IPL and CPL.
In reply to openning
Did u read, this is not Bairstow first time opening.
Read Rohit Sharma recent comments about doing whats need for the team.
In reply to openning
"He (Dhoni) just came up to me and said 'I want you to open the innings as I am confident that you will do well. Since you can play both cut and pull shot well, you have the qualities to succeed as an opener'," Rohit said. "He told me that I shouldn't be scared of failures or get upset by criticism. He was looking at the bigger picture as the Champions Trophy was scheduled in England that year.
Link.
In reply to openning
Link.
In reply to Andy99
Read and comprehend bro,
That is so different, to Ambris, again it is preparing the batsman to open the inning, I would not be surprise with his preparation for the role, prior to the series.
In reply to openning
Thats all u got?
Anyways to your point, what about the bigger picture of WI getting an opener not just for 1 competition but for the next 10 years.
In reply to Maispwi
my argument is not averages...my argument is the type of cricket....you can't dismiss a man totally from ODIs based on his form in test cricket.
if this was the case Shai Hope should NEVER had made the test team.
Somebody(s) truly believes Kyle Hope has what it takes to be successful in international cricket and they are giving him every opportunity to demonstrate that
Same people also do not believe the same for Sunil Ambris
In reply to Andy99
West Indies cricket has been in a free fall fall a couple of decades, we were fortunate to have great teams of the 70's & 80's.
It is up to Lewis and other openers, if they want to work, and full fill that slot for ten or more years.
These T20 leagues is taking over from youngster vying to play in the NBA.
In reply to imusic
In reply to imusic
Ah have to conclude dat Ambris has non-cricketing problems. You cyah tell me a man with a 50 average in List A cricket cyah get a look in and cud only bat at 7, when he eventually got a game, for a St. Lucia Stars team dat cudn win a match in de CPL
In reply to Maispwi
Yeah. It very odd indeed where he concerned. Especially with the relatively weak batting lineup we have.
BTW:
Born March 23, 1993, St Vincent, Windward Islands
Current age 24 years 182 days
Major teams Combined Campuses and Colleges, St Lucia Zouks, UWI Vice Chancellor's XI, West Indies Under-15s, West Indies Under-19s, Windward Islands
Playing role Opening batsman
Batting style Right-hand bat
According to cricinfo.
... caan ketch a break, the man could a run up to the stumps and still reach before the batsman.
In reply to natty_forever
Not true
The onkly successful 'late bloomer' was Ridley Jacobs
Our history shows if a player doesn't make a real name in the regional cricket before age 24...then forget consistently good performance at the highest level....recent examples...Johnson, Singh, Kuk Edwards, Kyle Hope, J Mo
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