We are all in agreement that WI Cricket has been in free-fall for the past three decades (far too long), and we can point to several reasons as to why (example: cultural shift, no professional contracts in England, etc...)
About 5-years ago the WIBC instituted a player contract system and several players have benefited. I do believe that players need to take some personal ownership of their craft/skills and work in private to improve their game. I am an IT professional and I have to improve my skill set yearly if I am going to be marketable and employable. The same has to be true for WIBC players - I see players getting out the same way they did 3-years ago (at all levels), bowlers bowling the same way (no discipline - same lines, same lengths, same speeds, no swing) - seems to me to be so brainless.
Granted playing professional cricket in England afford those players an opportunity to play everyday, and by doing so advanced their skills but that door has been closed and WI cricket will not get back to the top-tier until the players in each territory with and without a contract take more personal pride/responsibility in improving their game. Those with contracts need to spend 4-5 Hrs per day focused on game improvement (improving weaknesses) and that includes watching videos of themselves and other players.
The bar is currently very low because players should have to score atleast 800-runs in the PCL, or take 35-wickets in consecutive years to be considered for selection at the highest level. Then and only then I believe; they will have the personal motivation to stay at the top. Competition is healthy and players need to be hungry. I am sure players like Rolston Otto wish he was born 25-years later.
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Player Personal Responsibility
In reply to Veracity
The question needs to be asked, on what basis does the WICB renew contracts?
How does a man who has not been working on improving his game, who takes zero personal responsibility..get a new contract?
I belive the players you referred to above, who have shown zero improvement, have gotten contracts renewed..why?
Generally in any environment..if managament does not hold people accountable, most will do whatever they can get away with
In reply to DIEHARD
In reply to Veracity
Before you start blabbering about
Players Responsibility YOU need to
State the Following :
WHAT THE HELL IS THE PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE WORST
INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD
IN THE COMMONWEALTH , AKA
THE WICBC/CWI . REGARDING THEIR
STEWARDSHIP OF CRICKET IN THE
REGION .
It is totally asinine to be critical
of the Players while ignoring the
following stark freaking facts .
SINCE ITS FOUNDING ROUGHLY 89 YEARS
AGO ; THE WICBC/CWI HAS BLUNTLY
REFUSED TO ADD THE SALIENT
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MANY REPORTS
IT HAS COMMISSIONED .
Now this is a freaking fact , not fiction ; or a figment of my imagination .
THE REGIONAL BOARDS LIKE THE WICBC /
CWI ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYONE ;
THEY ARE NOT TRANSPARENT , & THEY
DO NOT ADHERE TO THE PRINCIPLES OF
GOOD GOVERNANCE .
If you are building a House You do not
take a Grave Digger to build your House . In essence Persons in the
WICBC/CWI & in the Regional Boards
MUST be competent Persons ; who are
fully must be Fully versed in what is entailed in Good Governance , I would
recommend ROBERT'S RULES . As I have
stated in this Forum on many occasions
they all need to read a Book written
BY DALE CARNEGIE ENTITLED :
HOW TO WIN FRIENDS & INFLUENCE PEOPLE
They would find it very Instructive .
Make absolutely no freaking mistake
the HEART of the Problem regarding
Cricket in the Region , is the fact
that ALL the Cricket Boards in the
Region think of themselves as Lords
and the Players their Serfs .
IT WAS THIS FREAKING ASININE
MENTALITY THAT PERVADES THEIR
THINKING , WHY THE PRESIDENT OF THE
WICBC/CWI , DOD NOT THINK THAT IT WAS
IMPORTANT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT LEVEL
CONTRACT DARREN BRAVO HAD BEFORE
MAKING HIS PUBLIC STATEMENT
REGARDING WHAT LEVEL CONTRACT BRAVO
HAD .
My opinion is that the President of
the WICBC/CWI was the cause of the
Darren Bravo Saga , yet Everyone jumped on Bravo , HE was punished twice for the same offense ; the
WICBC/CWI has a disciplinary Committee , that was by passed .
I have absolutely no doubt that had the President of the WICBC/CWI valued
Darren Bravo as Player , HE would have , I would like to think , ensure
that his statement was accurate .
The stark fact is that those who say
that they are Sports Journalists are
merely adoring Boot Lickers of the
WICBC / CWI .
THESE BOOT LICKERS BY THEIR TOTAL
ADORATION TO THE WICBC/CWI ALSO
ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT
STATE OF WEST INDIES CRICKET .
In reply to Veracity
SO TELL ME WHAT HAS REPLACED THE
HPC WHICH WAS CLOSED ?????
It is in my opinion utter Stupidity
to expect our Players to be fully competitive ; when they play Less
matches than their International Competitors .
In essence you have exonerated the
WICBC/CWI & the Regional Boards from ANY Responsibility for the performances of Our Players .
I find it very interesting , that
it is in the longer versions of the game that the WICC/CWI always controlled .
However it is the Shortest version of the game , that for most of its existence that was controlled by Others . The funny thing is that it is only this version of the game that
has won 2 consecutive World Championships .
But you did not factor this into the
equation when you made your comments , obviously it did not suit your
perspective ,
In reply to natty_forever
Who is holding the Worst International Cricket Board in the Commonwealth Accountable ?????
I get the impression that in your
opinion the WICBC/CWI is the model for how Cricket Boards should operate .
I beg to differ from that opinion :
CHANGE MUST ALWAYS START AT THE TOP
NOT FROM THE BOTTOM .
Interestingly , the WICBC/CWI relishes Commissioning Reports , and then just as quickly discard those
Reports without taking on Board the
salient features of those Reports .
That whoever it seems is irrelevant to your sensibilities . Some years ago the New Zealand Cricket Board recognized that it had a problem , and fixed dealt with it .
But not the Lot the Region is saddled
with , they like their Boot Lickers
in the Media bluntly refuse to recognize the fact that it is THEY who are the problem regarding not only Cricket in the Region ; but the
Competitiveness of Our Players in the International Cricket Arena .
In reply to Veracity
When Marlon Samuels was in the wilderness, his social media feed was full of his daily practice routines, he scored almost 800 runs, his first year back.
His social feed now, is promoting the Icon, no bat, no ball
It is up to each player to improve his performance
Frankly to improve One's performance
in my opinion requires Players to be
properly Coached , by Knowledgeable persons to correctly point out their
deficiencies .
Then and only then can it be expected
Players to work on their deficiencies . Obviously if they their deficiencies are not carefully examined and pointed out to them by Knowledgeable Coaches , the whole exercise will be an exercise in
futility .
In my opinion , then & only then it
will be imperative for Players to
strenuously address all of their Deficiencies .
In reply to openning
The basis of my thread is that its the players responsibility, and not management, not selectors, not spectators, etc.... the ownness is on the players.
Some of my fellow posters have made comments about which players are given contracts. I beg to differ with you - do your analysis/check the stats and you will see that about 80% of the contracts are justified.
I am simply tired of watching players and the team fail miserably game after game - if you feel the same lets work on finding a solution, and to me it starts with personal responsibility/pride.
When I listen or read articles/comments by former players (that were part of award winning team) I can hear the frustration and dissatisfaction in their tone and message.
Let's work to get out team back to the TOP!!!!
Nice thread but dat jackass already fack it up.. 
In reply to POINT
It take a lot of repetition to correct numerous flaws.
Viv, spent hours when he was at home, getting guys to bowl to him, A number of Indian cricketers, speak about the work, they are doing to improve.
Everton always speak about Seynour Nurse, batting for seven strait days, from morning to night, in preparation for Australia.
Bobby Simpson, wrote about the 233 runs, Nurse scored
Point, all Rohan Kanhai and players from his era did, prior to getting county contracts, is played local cricket, to get them ready for Regional and International duty.
Players can only get better, if they work on the coach"s instructions
In reply to openning
Dude, 201 and I changed my name from Onehand kani to Seymoure
In reply to Kay
THE POINT soon come for you.
In reply to tc1
Yes 201, Simpson said, he felt sorry for Seymour when he came in to bat, but fet more for his team, as Seymour got into his inning
Bro, betwwen 1961-1965, I had (Free) private lessons, with JO Morris in Pinfold Street, my dad died that year and my mother could only afford to give me 25 cents every Saturday, the bus fare was 10 cents each way, I walked to every way, with in the town and surrounding areas that the Blues was playing.
I've seen so much of Sir Everton and Seymour, thats why my take of batsmanship. is so high.
In reply to POINT
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE WORST
INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD
IN THE COMMONWEALTH , AKA
THE WICBC/CWI . REGARDING THEIR
STEWARDSHIP OF CRICKET IN THE
REGION .
Absolutely, well said.
People have their priorities all screwed up. Before you go after the players, we must first start at the top- the entire governance structure.
But you can see the plantation mentality- blame the worker and ask no question of the managers.
No one disagrees that players must be responsible, but the reason why we are in the doldrums is not because, the players are not taking personal responsibility, but BECAUSE OF THE WICBC AND THE GENERAL LACK OF LEADERSHIP OF OUR CRICKET.
Players under-performance is only a symptom of that problem
In reply to Kay
If YOU are referring what I wrote , it gives me great PLEASURE to inform YOU that the Sentiments You have expressed are Mutual .
In reply to Emir
I have been telling the Ding Bats in this Forum , who are the WICBC/CWI
BOOT LICKERS for years that Change must start from the Top .
Let me quote a very well known West Indian Adage :
FISH DOES NOT ROT FROM THE TAIL UP
IT ROTS FROM THE HEAD DOWN .
Unfortunately the WICBC/CWI Boot Lickers in this Forum will always
agree with those who populate
Absolutely the Worst Intermational
Cricket Board in the Commonwealth .
In reply to openning
First of All , Sobers ; Kanhai & others had an opportunity to Play in England when not representing the Region .
The International Tour Schedule allowed many matches to be played in between the International Matches .
That is what harnessed & honed those
Players Skills to perfection .
In addition , their Physical Stamina
was at the zenith . People fail to take these factors into Consideration
when making a Comparison .
In the event that you have not yet got the point I am making those Players played a hell of a lot more
Cricket than Our current Players .
There aint anyone who can say that this is a figment of my imagination . It is the stark unvarnished Truth .
The fact is that those who were in
charge of the Shortest version of the game in the Region harnessed & honed their Players in the shortest version of the game , to the point where they won 2 consecutive World Championships
in the shortest version of the game .
Let me again state this is not a figment of my Imagination . Interestingly I get the impression that the people in the WICBC were &
are not impressed with those Former Players .
They would rather hire someone who is not even as knowledgeable as our Former Players ; the only reason I can fathom why they constantly do this , is because their disdain of
Players in general is all consuming .
They would rather select someone , whose knowledge & experience regarding Cricket is below our Former
Great Players .
In reply to Emir
I have been telling the WICBC/CWI Boot Lickers what You have stated for years , yet they still persist in their utter Stupidity .
Yes I know their favorite refrain , I keep Repeating myself , that may be true , however I am doing that because
THEY keep repeating themselves & relish being Bona Fide Boot Lickers
of the Worst International Cricket Boards in the Commonwealth ; aka the WICBC /CWI .
In reply to POINT
F
Sobers and Kanhai played limited amount of county cricket if you listened county cricket standard was lower than our regionals.
Sobers, Kanhai, and Hall played in Australia Sheffield for about 2/3 years.
The great Lara only played about 2 years of county cricket.
In reply to Veracity
I disagree with this point in terms of the WI team or any other team brother.
It is an individual's responsibility if he decides to be a the best in the class or another player but it is the system that has to set the bar. The system needs to be good enough to expose the talent to be prepared.
Like in the WI team when the environment around the game in terms of Facilities, administration, quality and selection are all inconsistent you cannot blame the players.
For years we had dead pitches (I remember the pitches questioned as back as 1996) and when we mock our players inability to play in bouncy conditions like the past it is not just the player but the system. You might get one or two who still can overcome these limitations like Chanders or Lara but those would be odd. If you want consistent availability of talent it has to be system based and not individualistic.
In reply to tc1
I find it interesting that you Bluntly
refused to address what I stated regarding the International Tour
Schedule in those days .
THE TOUR SCHEDULE IN THOSE DAYS HAD
TOURING TEAMS PLAYING MANY MATCHES
BETWEEN THE INTERNATIONAL MATCHES .
OBVIOUSLY TOURING TEAMS APART FROM
BEING SUPREMELY MENTALLY & PHYSICALLY
FIT . THEY GOT ACCLIMATIZED TO BOTH
THE WEATHER , AND CONDITIONS OF THE
PITCHES .
Those are factors that absolutely NO
ONE CAN Factually Dispute . My perspective as I have said many times
in this Forum ; is that the slow decline of our Players Dominance of
Cricket slowly but surely started to decline when England decided out of the Blue to limit Players from playing England & that was followed
by the Change of the International
Tour Schedule .
No longer would International Touring
Teams have an opportunity to get acclimatized to both the Weather & the Pitches .
Interestingly when these two profound changes were made :
IN THE REGION THERE WAS NEITHER A
PRO OR SEMI PRO LEAGUE TO FILL THAT
VACUUM OF THOSE VERY IMPORTANT
FACTORS .
My take is that these two very important Factors were a carefully
crafted Ploy to over time ensure that
the Dominance of Our Players and Teams would diminish .
THE WORST INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD
IN THE COMMONWEALTH , aka the WICBC/
CWI , WERE TO DUMB TO UNDERSTAND THAT
NOT HAVING IN THE REGION A PRO OR
SEMI PRO LEAGUE WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL
TO THE COMPETITIVENESS OF OUR PLAYERS
AND TEAMS .
Now if you believe that my analysis
is far fetched , find out the following :
WHO HAD THE FASTEST BOWLERS IN THE
WORLD WHEN IT WAS DECIDED THAT PACE
BOWLERS COULD ONLY BOWL ONE BOUNCER
PER OVER .
I submit that was not accidental ; so
also in recent times 4 Members of the
ICC Decided to hijack most of the ICC Profits .
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
SUCCEEDED IN THEIR SCHEME , HAD IT
NOT BEEN FOR PUBLIC OUTCRY , DUE TO
THE FACT THAT CURRENTLY ; THE WORLD
IS A GLOBAL VILLAGE .
In reply to POINT
How did they earned the opportunity to play in England, and others during the time did not?
These players were in demand, base on their regional and International performance.
Gayle, Bravo, Pollard and others, are in demand, similar to the former greats.
The post is about players taking personal responsibility, the author also outlined the failure of the CWI.
All athletes should take personal responsibility in their development
In reply to openning
I find it very interesting that You
avoided any discussion that change in the International Tour Schedule;which accorded visiting Teams an Opportunities to get acclimatized to
both the Weather & the Pitches .
Evidently you seem to be of the opinion that these are Issues of little significance . I believe that
these two Factors were very Significant factors especially since
the Big Idiots in the Governance of
West Indies at the time were devoid of Foresight & Vision to fully understand that Our Players & Teams
would be handicapped due to the lack
of having a Regional Pro or Semi Pro
League .
THIS ALSO AINT A FIGMENT OF MY
IMAGINATION ; AND CANNOT BE DEEMED TO
BE A TRITE MATTER . BUT AS USUAL YOU
REFUSED TO ADDRESS THIS IN YOUR
RESPONSE .
In reply to POINT
What you do if everyone has a reduced tour schedule.Our players are not as good as those players from India, SA, Aussie, or England.
In reply to tc1
The undeniable point I am making is that when we ruled the International Cricket World , there was no thought of capitalizing on the Supremacy of our Players & Team .
The fact is that if there were sensible people in the governance of West Indies Cricket , when our Teams & Players were dominating International
Cricket , the Big Idiots would have been able to get lots of money from
Financial Supporters , to form a Regional Pro or Semi Pro Cricket League . Build Academies , etc.
Instead those in the governance of West Indies Cricket sat on their individual & Collective Asses and did not do one blasted thing . When they
could have formed a Pro or Semi Pro League and have Academies .
England , Australia & Others noticed
that there was no League in the Region ; and decided to put in motion
procedures to reduce the dominance of
our Players in the International Arena .
Most of our Players played Cricket in England , so England decided to limit
the number of Players playing Cricket in England .
Then they decided to change the International Tour Schedule ; by limiting the matches Touring Teams played , obviously this meant that
Our Players , with no Regional League ,did not have an opportunity to get acclimatized to both the Weather & the Pitches .
In addition , the fact that there were not many Tour Matches , meant that our Players were not Mentally &
Physically as fit as those who were on our Team when there were a lot of Matches between the International Matches .
So while Walsh ; Roberts ; Holding et
al had the ability to bowl a lot of overs consecutively ; Our current Pacers cannot match that . Their Stamina could never match those who played in the era of endless matches
between between the International matches . So also was their Mental Stamina , which is very important in all aspects of the game .
In reply to POINT
avoided any discussion that change in the International Tour Schedule;which accorded visiting Teams an Opportunities to get acclimatized to
both the Weather & the Pitches .
These policies have been changed, many decades ago, so why bring them in to any discussion?
Surely today's players are playing by the 2017 formats, like other nations.
We must look at today schedules, not the 1960's, you also must understand, that players playing in the T20 leagues, at times will not be available for camps.
In reply to Emir
HEAR! HEAR!
`Onry did say to Opiss ..it was the "skills" rather "fitness" level of the players that needs attention.
In reply to openning
To buttress the point that The genesis of the decline of West Indies started
because of the pertinent factors that I have stated .
The decline as I have stated , started
because those in the governance of West Indies Cricket mistakenly believed that they could just sit
back and enjoy our Players perceived Invincibility Forever .
It never dawned on the Clowns , that
having a Regional Pro or Semi Pro League was important to maintain Our
Players competitiveness & Mental &
Physical Stamina .
BTW , CURRENTLY THE STARK FACT IS
THAT OUR CURRENT PLAYERS MENTAL &
PHYSICAL STAMINA AINT UP TO THE
STANDARD OF OUR FORMER GREAT PLAYERS .
MENTAL & PHYSICAL STAMINA , IN MY
OPINION ARE KEY AIDES TO SUPERB
CONCENTRATION .
I am sure that You realize that Concentration is very Important in
all aspects of Cricket , especially
in the longer versions of the game .
My take is that they are especially vital in the Longer Versions of the game ; where Mental & Physical Stamina are KEY Components in the longer versions of the Game .
My Take is that they are the differences that separates Winners from Losers . I do not think that this is factored into the equation .
This is precisely why I am in favour of Long Camps , and at least 3 Warm up Matches with ALL Coaches in attendance . Having Rudy Webster on board would be helpful , unfortunately it seems that he is in the WICBC/CWI Dog House .
Remarkably my Critics seem to suddenly have an attack of Writers Cramp .Many
fail to realize this Freaking Fact :
IN THE GLORY DAYS OF WEST INDIES
CRICKET THE "WISE MEN"IN THE WICBC/CWI
NEVER EVER PUT IN PLACE POLICIES TO
ENSURE THAT OUR PLAYERS WOULD REMAIN
COMPETITIVE .
Folks , this is precisely why WE are
where WE are today .Yet those in :
THE WICBC /CWI BLUNTLY REFUSED TO
PLAN FOR THE FUTURE . THEY PREFERRED
INSTEAD TO WAGE A WAR AGAINST THOSE
WHO BROUGHT HONOUR & GLORY TO THE
WICBC/CWI AND THE REGION .
Drunk with the Success of OUR Players
& Team , it never dawned on the people in the WICBC/CWI that the Cabal in the ICC were plotting to
erode over time the Greatness of Our
Players & Team .
I am not upset with those who plotted
to diminish our Teams , I am upset
about the fact that those in the Governance of Cricket , refused to understand what was happening ; Perhaps that was due to their colossal Stupidity & their animosity
towards the Players .
My perception is that not a freaking
thing has changed in the WICBC/CWI
Its Members still have animosity towards the Players , and they still
Cling to their Archaic Structure like an infant with his/her Security Blanket.
In reply to POINT
You seem to be pro player, I am neither pro nor con.
One area that should be look and compare to, is the regional competition
We all can criticize the CWI, but our competition, need our stars
All of our former players, made teams and the competition better.
Someone saw this and made policies, starting with Dessie Haynes , very few of our stars plays in the 50 overs and 4-day.
I remember calling QPO, to follow Viv batting against the T&T, mystery spinner, it is not the same, today.
There should be some give and take, by the CWI and the senior players
Camps are a necessary tool for a tournament, but it cannot replace working on their game prior to the camp.
Some people seem unable to understand & reply to what I write . They relish going off on a Tangent and be evasive .
I am not Pro Players ; the fact which some choose to ignore is that as I have stated in this Forum many times :
"FISH NEVER ROTS FROM THE TAIL UP IT
ALWAYS ROTS FROM THE HEAD DOWN ."
Interestingly , Not One of those who
disagree with what I state have had the Testicular Fortitude to criticize
the Emperors , who bluntly refuse to
change their Structure .
Then they walk around being critical
of the Players when the Truth is that it is those who are in the governance
of Cricket in the Region who are stinking up the place with their Gross Incompetence ; and refusal to
change their Structure .
One never hears a word of Criticism ;
regarding their gross animosity towards the Players believing that
is a great motivational tool .
Their Sycophants in this Forum never ever utter a word about the fact that
the WICBC/CWI has commissioned several Reports of their Structure ; and has totally ignored the salient
Features of those Reports .
Their Boot Lickers in this Forum refuse to utter any word of criticism .They are so freaking brainwashed , that they do not understand that the
Commissioning of these Reports is an attempt to Bamboozle the People in the Region .
In reply to POINT
I agree that administrations (past & present) have been biased and short-sighted/lack vision. Therefore, we (players & fans) the people are suffering today, as the standards (cricketing and selection) have dropped by a country mile, and I believe that some players may have a similar mind-set. So lets stop, and ask seriously "how can we get back to the top tier".
To me the answer has to be the players - their are professionals (they have central contracts) and therefore must have a greater interest in the product their are putting on the field.
Once the players step up their game; everything around them will improve from viewership(fans) to sponsorship - only then can they pull the administrators along as they can then dictate.
I am interested in finding solutions not disparaging administrators or players. The team is more than the players - it also includes the supporters like you and I.
In reply to Veracity
I've reminded Point on numerous occasions, that 99.99% of the message board, agrees with him on the CWI.
He seem unsure of the .01%, so he need to remind them.
I ignore his responses on subjects he has written about, 10000 times
In reply to openning
Please inform me when our Players & Team were the Best in the World ; what
measures the WICBC/CWI took to ensure
that there was continuity in our Players Dominance in International
Cricket .
DID THEY SEEK FINANCIAL SPONSORS TO
TO START A PRO OR SEMI PRO LEAGUE ???
DID THEY ENSURE THAT THE PLAYERS HAD
GOOD COACHES ???
DID THEY CHANGE THEIR ANIMOSITY
TOWARDS THE PLAYERS ????
DID THEY CHANGE THEIR 1928 STRUCTURE ???
DID THEY ADHERE TO GOOD GOVERNANCE ???
DID THEY ADHERE TO THE PRINCIPLES OF
ACCOUNTABILITY ; & TRANSPARENCY ???
I do not believe that they have done , nor have I seen any evidence that
they have changed .
In reply to POINT
measures the WICBC/CWI took to ensure
that there was continuity in our Players Dominance in International
Cricket .
DID THEY SEEK FINANCIAL SPONSORS TO
TO START A PRO OR SEMI PRO LEAGUE ???
DID THEY ENSURE THAT THE PLAYERS HAD
GOOD COACHES ???[/stats]
Point this is a non issue, I am not part of the .01%, that disagree with you.
You don't have to asked me the same question, when I had answered it before.
In reply to Veracity
You apparently want the Players to be Professional , but those in the governance of Cricket in the Region should be Amateurs .
I cannot subscribe to that unadulterated B.S . The gist of what you are saying is that Excellence must come from the Players , but the Cricket Boards in the Region are exempted from Excellence .
My take has been , and will always be :
EXCELLENCE MUST START AT THE TOP NOT
AT THE BOTTOM . PERHAPS YOU HAVE SEEN
FISH ROTTING FROM THE TAIL UP . I
HAVE ONLY SEEN FISH ROTTING FROM THE
HEAD DOWN .
On many occasions I have stated how
WE got to where we are . If you take the time to read all that I have stated in this Post , You would hopefully understand my perspective .
The HPC was closed down , and as far as I am aware there has been no replacement . This in my opinion obliterates any assertions that it is
the Players who are mainly at fault for the Ills of West Indies Cricket
I cannot, and will not subscribe to the Idea that it is all the Players fault . Look at it from this perspective ; Some years ago WE were
beating Bangladesh , that aint the case these days .
My take is that while Bangladesh has
progressed ; WE have regressed ; now
this fact needs to be examined in detail . The Question is this :
WHO IN THE REGION WILL DO THAT ???
I am very sure that it aint going to
be the WICBC/CWI .
In reply to POINT
Thats Veracity first line, in response to your post.
Why do you continue, bring a point, to someone who share the same view.
Bro, why continue when the poster agreed with you.
In reply to Veracity
The very first thing that must be on the Agenda is :
A COMPLETE RESTRUCTURING OF THE
WICBC/CWICWI . THIS HAS NEVER EVER
BEEN DONE DESPITE THE EMPERORS
COMMISSIONING SEVERAL REPORTS .
Obviously this was a tactic designed to Bamboozle the Public , when the Truth is that THEY had & have absolutely no intention of changing
their Archaic Structure .
It is also very interesting that their BootLickers in the Media are
silent on this particular Matter .
This means that THEY are complicit
with the WICBC/CWI in its Maladministration of West Indies Cricket .
WHERE THE HELL IS THE HPC & WHY IS IT
THAT THE MEDIA IN THE REGION ARE
SILENT ON THIS GLARING BEHAVIOUR BY
THE WICBC.CWI .
Their silence on this matter speaks Volumes ; & reinforces what I have stated here for over a Decade .
If WE want Cricket in the Region to improve , there must be a Crystal
Clear understanding that Cricket in
the Region needs to have an amicable
relationship between those on the Board & the Players .
In reply to Veracity
It is Crystal Clear that the People in
the WICBC/CWI do not want to be :
TRANSPARENT ; ACCOUNTABLE OR ADHERE
TO THE PRINCIPLES OF GOOD GOVERNANCE .
THE MIMIC MEN IN THE WICBC/CWI FAIL
TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE DAYS CRICKET
IS A PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS THAT
REQUIRES THOSE IN THE GOVERNANCE OF
CRICKET BE NOT ONLY PROFESSIONALS BUT
ADHERE TO ALL THE PRINCIPLES REQUIRED
IN PROFESSIONALISM .
The utter Stupidity that occurred in
India where the WICBC/CWI cancelled a
Tour that was in Progress . Then the
behaviour of the President & the Board in the Darren Bravo Saga .
These are in my opinion simply the latest Deeds of the WICBC/CWI that
demonstrates that those in the WICBC/
CWI are totally unfit to be in the
governance of Cricket in the Region .
They can do these things because in the Region , they are Supported by most of the People in the Region who claim to be Sports Journalist , but are actually the WICBC/CWI BOOT LICKERS .
THEN THERE ARE THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE
REGION SOME OF THEM ARE TOTALLY
DEVOID OF THE TESTICULAR FORTITUDE TO
STAND UP TO THE MIMIC MEN IN THE
WICBC/CWI .
They are akin to Caesar who it is said Fiddled while Rome burnt . I have absolutely no doubt that History
will not be kind to these feckless
Morons .
In reply to Veracity
Mr Otto 25 years later would still have a problem if he was born outside the Mount Gay home.
Unless he can donate to selectors charity!! 
A certain poster is encouraging youngsters to mirror the attributes of the Board that oversees them.
Why he asks should the players be professional if the Board isn't?
Why should the players seek to improve if the Board is unwilling to do so itself?
Why should the players show competence when the Board doesn't even know what the word means?
I am beginning to think that this poster is an agent for the Board becouse if the players adopt the attitudes he suggests they will never attain worldwide appeal and will be left to the whims and fancies of the Board.
Would he give his children such advice?
I wonder how many of the contracted players own a bowling machine
In reply to ducks
I am strongly in favour of Players , particularly Batsmen , take some of their money and buy a Bowling Machine ; In essence do like Shiv .
In my opinion , Batsmen who have been on the West Indies for at least 2 years should in my opinion have a Bowling Machine and use it to improve their game .
However, ultimately the onus is on the WICBC/CWI to ensure that Our Players are fully competitive in the
International Cricket Arena .
What the People in the WICBC/CWI utterly fail to understand is the fact that unless things are put in place to make Our Players fully competitive , they aint going to make
money .
Obviously the fact that they have not yet recognized this demonstrates that
they are Clueless regarding Cricket .
ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS THAT OUR
FORMER GREAT PLAYERS HAD THAT OUR
CURRENT PLAYERS LACK IN ABUNDANCE
WAS :
M E N T A L & P H Y S I C AL
S T A M I N A . IT WAS THESE TWO
COMPONENTS THAT MADE OUR PACE BOWLERS
BOWL FOR AT LEAST ONE HOUR UNCHANGED.
OBVIOUSLY SPINNERS ALSO BENEFITTED
FROM THOSE ATTRIBUTES .
There is absolutely no doubt that
OUR BATSMEN ALSO BENEFITTED FROM
BEING PHYSICAL & MENTALLY FIT . THEIR
CONCENTRATION AT THE CREASE WAS
ENHANCED .
I seriously doubt that ANYONE in this
Forum can provide evidence that what I have stated above is untrue .
In reply to POINT
No player (bowler or batsman) don't just get personal stamina - its build-up due to training and conditioning the body and mind. That is why I think that the current crop of players need to develop similar discipline.
I recall seeing Wes Hall at practice before a Test Match bowling from 3:45 - 5:45 PM, and then running around the stadium after before heading off. That took endurance/discipline, and he did not have a contract in England where the players had certain contractual obligations.
In reply to Veracity
That is very obvious , the point I am making is that in the Eras where Touring Teams played a lot of Cricket between the International Matches ;in
My opinion bolstered their capacity
to have both Mental & Physical
Stamina where it counted the most , which was in the International matches .
I firmly believe that Mental & Physical Fitness is very important in
All forms of Sports . I seriously doubt that Anyone can dispute this .
What You have stated buttresses my
point . I am of the opinion that the
Board needs to hire a Very Good Physical Trainer .
Having a Person to deal with Mental Issues is also important . But it is
evident that the Board aint interested in hiring Rudi Webster , since he has been and probably still is a Critic .of the Board .
The Board it seems is only interested in hiring YES Men . Critics are Persona non Gratis .This is why WE are where WE are .
In reply to openning
Other International Teams have lots of Financial Sponsors ; Lots of Academies and have much larger Populations than WE have in the Region .
My recollection is that in the Region , there were Sponsors at one point , in Regional Cricket ,unfortunately They left ; and never returned .
In this very Forum I bemoaned the fact that:
NONE OF THE FAUX SPORTS JOURNALISTS
IN THE REGION HAD THE TESTICULAR
FORTITUDE TO ENQUIRE WHY THEY DECIDED
TO STOP BEING SPONSORS OF CRICKET IN
THE REGION ; MUCH TO THE DELIGHT OF
THEIR MASTERS IN THE WORST
INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD IN THE
COMMONWEALTH ; AKA THE WICBC/CWI .
If You want to also dispute this go
ahead , and make my Day ; yet people
run around talking about wanting Professionalism ONLY from the Players .
This is a Freaking Joke ; let me again state an Axiom :
" FISH NEVER ROTS FROM THE TAIL UP;
IT ALWAYS ROTS FROM THE HEAD DOWN ".
This is precisely why I have continuously stated in this Forum that essentially WE are barking up the Wrong Tree . WE have to start first with the WICBC/CWI .
Like it or not it is THERE where most
of the Problems with Cricket in the Region originate ; that is an undisputable Freaking Fact .
In reply to POINT
For the gazillionth time ............
In reply to openning
In reply to Kay
In reply to openning... wondering what would have happened if the English county championship ran from January to June?
In reply to Kay
Your non contribution is duly noted ,
btw , it also tangibly demonstrates
the fact that you are an ASS .
If you decide to respond to this with
language that is in anyway unbecoming
let me assure YOU that your belief is
& will be mutual .
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