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Why the 'fake fielding' law is relevant

 
djdrastic 2017-10-03 11:01:19 

This new fake fielding law sucks.We need more freaking laws to protect batsmen ?

Queensland's Marnus Labuschagne became the first player to be penalised under the "fake fielding" law, which was recently incorporated by the ICC into its playing conditions.

Attempting to intercept a drive from Cricket Australia XI batsman Param Uppal in the JLT Cup, Labuschagne, fielding at cover, dived to his right, stood up and mocked a throw as the ball had passed him. Uppal stopped in his stride, hesitated for a moment, but eventually finished the run. The umpires consequently awarded five runs to CA XI for violating Law 41.5, which deals with "deliberate distraction, deception or obstruction of a batsman".

According to the lawmaker, these actions are against the spirit of cricket. But is mock fielding, which has the same five-run penalty as ball tampering, a severe violation?

 
tops 2017-10-03 11:09:59 

In reply to djdrastic
Awarding penalty runs is fake runs. To make it real they should discount it from the offending team.

 
Andy99 2017-10-03 11:27:18 

In reply to djdrastic

If thats the case should penalize the batsmen for faking a run in attempt to make the fielder throw at the stumps and then run over throws.

 
jballer84 2017-10-03 11:35:47 

In reply to Andy99

This is a stupid rule and is taking away some excitement from rhe game. Is the fake pump in basketball illegal? Is the dummy in soccer illegal? Why is cricket always behind. This is pure garbage

 
doosra 2017-10-03 11:38:39 

In reply to jballer84

so i guess that you don't mind the Andre Russell type fake run up?

 
djdrastic 2017-10-03 11:40:33 

In reply to Andy99

Aye this new law leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Under the new laws wonder if a batsman could appeal if he got run out after a misfield ?

 
tops 2017-10-03 11:44:17 

In reply to doosra
What would have happened to Tino running up and bowling without a ball
big grin
Wasn't there a match in SL, I think, right after tea, the bowler ran up and bowled an orange? big grin

 
Maispwi 2017-10-03 11:51:36 

Batsmen can also fake run calls so is either de lawmakers eh think dis thru or its another effort to favour the batsmen.

Two batsmen sometimes shout two when they are crossing for the first run. That puts pressure on the fieldsman who may then misfield and give an extra run or try to throw quickly and be wayward. De batting team shud also be penalised.

 
Maispwi 2017-10-03 11:59:39 

In reply to jballer84

De next ting dey go come up with is dat a fielder who runs towards a ball dat he knows he cannot field but does so to put doubt in the minds of the batsman will be guilty of ungentlemanly conduct.

 
tops 2017-10-03 12:31:02 

In reply to Maispwi
"De next ting dey go come up with is dat a fielder who runs towards a ball dat he knows he cannot field but does so to put doubt in the minds of the batsman will be guilty of ungentlemanly conduct."
Or dive for the ball and don't stop it.

 
jballer84 2017-10-03 12:45:01 

In reply to doosra

No problem with Russel doijng that at all. Pay attention. This rule is stupid. What about a bowler that runs up as if he's bowling fast and bowls a slower ball? Or a spinner who bowls leg spin and tricks the batsman bowling a googly. Just play the dam game

 
doosra 2017-10-03 12:48:49 

In reply to jballer84

point is he bowls

it's part of what he intended...how can you differentiate between what was bowled and what was intended? you want read people's mind now? what next?

think about that nonsense you just posted there breds big grin big grin big grin

FAKING is different from what you posted there...if i may begin to offer some clarity

 
doosra 2017-10-03 12:49:17 

In reply to tops

still a gentleman's game...keep that FAKE stuff for the NBA and such places ...haha

 
tops 2017-10-03 12:56:15 

In reply to doosra
"still a gentleman's game"
What about women cricket? big grin

 
jballer84 2017-10-03 13:00:21 

In reply to doosra

I'm just making a point there is too much tinkering. It's too subjective. What's wrong with pretending to throw a ball you don't have? To me it adds to the drama and intrigue.

 
doosra 2017-10-03 13:01:52 

In reply to tops

they play the gentleman's game big grin

 
doosra 2017-10-03 13:02:33 

In reply to jballer84

man there's a clear distinction between FAKING and CLEVERNESS/SKILL

don't you think so?

 
Kay 2017-10-03 13:08:54 

In reply to jballer84

What about a bowler that runs up as if he's bowling fast and bowls a slower ball? Or a spinner who bowls leg spin and tricks the batsman bowling a googly. Just play the dam game

Isn't the intention of any good bowler to fool the batsman and induce a false play once the delivery is legal?

 
jballer84 2017-10-03 13:12:21 

In reply to Kay

I was probably being sarcastic/ridiculous. Let's call those bad examples

 
jballer84 2017-10-03 13:14:01 

In reply to doosra

I think there is a place in the game for faking. If a fielder pretends to get to the ball quicker than he really has and fakes a throw, it is up to the batsmen to know where the ball is. This is being petty.

 
natty_forever 2017-10-03 13:19:43 

In reply to doosra... yes, and it was rather clever on the fielders part ... no?

 
doosra 2017-10-03 13:40:26 

In reply to natty_forever

no...that was FAKING big grin

 
carl0002 2017-10-03 14:07:17 

Of all the things they need to pick on. This happens how many times during a game. Couple of times, maybe 3. They found it a big enough problem to create a rule for it.smh

 
natty_forever 2017-10-03 14:50:24 

In reply to doosra... which was rather clever!

big grin

 
WestDem 2017-10-03 15:29:36 

This rule is indeed stupid...faking is there from the beginning of time...both batting and fielding side do it all the time....will soon post some instances...

 
sgtdjones 2017-10-03 16:01:27 

In reply to WestDem

Cussbud

Well look how long you faked playing cricket.

lol lol lol

 
WestDem 2017-10-03 16:12:29 

In reply to sgtdjones

Yuh know you are an accident from a fake oragsm, right? lol lol lol

 
jelfew 2017-10-03 17:27:36 

In reply to WestDem

Sure it is stupid. After all when a boxer fakes that he is knocked out, he is merely protecting himself. Dont?

 
Real-cricket 2017-10-03 19:09:32 

In reply to djdrastic

Really? Is this fake news? lol

 
sgtdjones 2017-10-03 19:47:58 

In reply to WestDem

cussbud

Is dat the best ya can come up with? Ah disappointed

lol lol lol