Why the 'fake fielding' law is relevant

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link djdrastic Joined: Dec 10, 2013
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10/3/17 11:01:19 AM 
This new fake fielding law sucks.We need more freaking laws to protect batsmen ?

Queensland's Marnus Labuschagne became the first player to be penalised under the "fake fielding" law, which was recently incorporated by the ICC into its playing conditions.

Attempting to intercept a drive from Cricket Australia XI batsman Param Uppal in the JLT Cup, Labuschagne, fielding at cover, dived to his right, stood up and mocked a throw as the ball had passed him. Uppal stopped in his stride, hesitated for a moment, but eventually finished the run. The umpires consequently awarded five runs to CA XI for violating Law 41.5, which deals with "deliberate distraction, deception or obstruction of a batsman".

According to the lawmaker, these actions are against the spirit of cricket. But is mock fielding, which has the same five-run penalty as ball tampering, a severe violation?

link tops Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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10/3/17 11:09:59 AM 
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Awarding penalty runs is fake runs. To make it real they should discount it from the offending team.

link Andy99 Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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10/3/17 11:27:18 AM 
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If thats the case should penalize the batsmen for faking a run in attempt to make the fielder throw at the stumps and then run over throws.

link jballer84 Joined: Feb 17, 2011
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10/3/17 11:35:47 AM 
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This is a stupid rule and is taking away some excitement from rhe game. Is the fake pump in basketball illegal? Is the dummy in soccer illegal? Why is cricket always behind. This is pure garbage

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/3/17 11:38:39 AM 
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so i guess that you don't mind the Andre Russell type fake run up?

link djdrastic Joined: Dec 10, 2013
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10/3/17 11:40:33 AM 
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Aye this new law leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Under the new laws wonder if a batsman could appeal if he got run out after a misfield ?

link tops Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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10/3/17 11:44:17 AM 
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What would have happened to Tino running up and bowling without a ball
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Wasn't there a match in SL, I think, right after tea, the bowler ran up and bowled an orange? big grin

link Maispwi Joined: Feb 4, 2003
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10/3/17 11:51:36 AM 
Batsmen can also fake run calls so is either de lawmakers eh think dis thru or its another effort to favour the batsmen.

Two batsmen sometimes shout two when they are crossing for the first run. That puts pressure on the fieldsman who may then misfield and give an extra run or try to throw quickly and be wayward. De batting team shud also be penalised.

link Maispwi Joined: Feb 4, 2003
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10/3/17 11:59:39 AM 
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De next ting dey go come up with is dat a fielder who runs towards a ball dat he knows he cannot field but does so to put doubt in the minds of the batsman will be guilty of ungentlemanly conduct.

link tops Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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10/3/17 12:31:02 PM 
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"De next ting dey go come up with is dat a fielder who runs towards a ball dat he knows he cannot field but does so to put doubt in the minds of the batsman will be guilty of ungentlemanly conduct."
Or dive for the ball and don't stop it.

link jballer84 Joined: Feb 17, 2011
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10/3/17 12:45:01 PM 
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No problem with Russel doijng that at all. Pay attention. This rule is stupid. What about a bowler that runs up as if he's bowling fast and bowls a slower ball? Or a spinner who bowls leg spin and tricks the batsman bowling a googly. Just play the dam game

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/3/17 12:48:49 PM 
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point is he bowls

it's part of what he intended...how can you differentiate between what was bowled and what was intended? you want read people's mind now? what next?

think about that nonsense you just posted there breds big grin big grin big grin

FAKING is different from what you posted there...if i may begin to offer some clarity

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/3/17 12:49:17 PM 
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still a gentleman's game...keep that FAKE stuff for the NBA and such places ...haha

link tops Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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10/3/17 12:56:15 PM 
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"still a gentleman's game"
What about women cricket? big grin

link jballer84 Joined: Feb 17, 2011
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10/3/17 1:00:21 PM 
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I'm just making a point there is too much tinkering. It's too subjective. What's wrong with pretending to throw a ball you don't have? To me it adds to the drama and intrigue.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/3/17 1:01:52 PM 
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they play the gentleman's game big grin

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/3/17 1:02:33 PM 
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man there's a clear distinction between FAKING and CLEVERNESS/SKILL

don't you think so?

link Kay Joined: Feb 1, 2015
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10/3/17 1:08:54 PM 
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What about a bowler that runs up as if he's bowling fast and bowls a slower ball? Or a spinner who bowls leg spin and tricks the batsman bowling a googly. Just play the dam game

Isn't the intention of any good bowler to fool the batsman and induce a false play once the delivery is legal?

link jballer84 Joined: Feb 17, 2011
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10/3/17 1:12:21 PM 
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I was probably being sarcastic/ridiculous. Let's call those bad examples

link jballer84 Joined: Feb 17, 2011
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10/3/17 1:14:01 PM 
In reply to doosra

I think there is a place in the game for faking. If a fielder pretends to get to the ball quicker than he really has and fakes a throw, it is up to the batsmen to know where the ball is. This is being petty.

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 28, 2003
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10/3/17 1:19:43 PM 
In reply to doosra... yes, and it was rather clever on the fielders part ... no?

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/3/17 1:40:26 PM 
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no...that was FAKING big grin

link carl0002 Joined: Apr 16, 2003
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10/3/17 2:07:17 PM 
Of all the things they need to pick on. This happens how many times during a game. Couple of times, maybe 3. They found it a big enough problem to create a rule for it.smh

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 28, 2003
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10/3/17 2:50:24 PM 
In reply to doosra... which was rather clever!

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link WestDem Joined: Jan 21, 2009
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10/3/17 3:29:36 PM 
This rule is indeed stupid...faking is there from the beginning of time...both batting and fielding side do it all the time....will soon post some instances...

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