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No Bravo as Windies tour Zimbabwe

 
sgtdjones 2017-10-04 10:00:39 

No Bravo as Windies tour Zimbabwe

The West Indies selection panel has announced an unchanged team for the tour of Zimbabwe later this month, which means star batsman Darren Bravo is not in for the Two-match Test series.

Bravo was cleared in July to play for the West Indies after his public issues with president of CWI, Dave Cameron. He however opted out of the ODI tour of England and now it is understood that he is not yet ready to get back into the Test fold. Sources close to the dapper left hander says that he will be back soon though, as he still has a lot of offer in the Test arena.



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tc1 2017-10-04 10:45:09 

In reply to sgtdjones

come on Sgt Jones, u better than this, tell us what Darren told u.give us straight from the horses mout.

not what the word on the curve is.

lol lol lol lol lol

 
sgtdjones 2017-10-04 11:06:33 

In reply to tc1

Court case coming up soon against CWI

You want the man to be in Zimbabwe so the case thrown out eh!!!!

lol lol lol

 
tc1 2017-10-04 11:10:19 

In reply to sgtdjones


Now u talking

lol lol lol lol

 
sgtdjones 2017-10-04 11:15:21 

In reply to tc1

No Bravo, because this was a last minute scheduled series, and he's already contracted to play in the BPL.



Plus he say he gats better money playing in BPL.


lol lol lol

 
allan 2017-10-04 11:25:47 

In reply to sgtdjones

you believe that.. he is not wanted in the setup..

 
buds 2017-10-05 05:42:28 

Good riddance

 
CITYBOY 2017-10-05 07:32:52 

In reply to sgtdjones

Hola..Sarge has Bravo got a good lawyer...because his case is not solid...more like quicksand...and by the way he aint making the starting line up for any T20 team except TTKR
Adios
CB

 
rubberd 2017-10-05 08:37:38 

In reply to CITYBOY

He however opted out of the ODI tour of England and now it is understood that he is not yet ready to get back into the Test fold.


Comilla Victorians: Imrul Kayes, Tamim Iqbal, Marlon Samuels, Darren Bravo, Shoaib Malik, Jos Buttler, Liton Das (wk), Mohammad Saifuddin, Fahim Ashraf, Mohammed Nabi, Rashid Khan, Hassan Ali, Imran Khan Jr, Al-Amin Hossain, Arafat Sunny, Alok Kapali, Mahedi Hasan, Solomon Mire, Rumman Raees, Mehedi Hasan Rana, Enamul Haque, Raqibul Hasan

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We have to be careful of "journalist" who put out misleading stuff because they are favored by CWI.
HE MUST KNOW THAT BRAVO HAS A BPL CONTRACT, BLACKWOOD WOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE UP HIS.
The concern here should be if this same squad will be used for New Zealand or if CWI will try to get the likes of Lewis and Bravo to end their BPL stinks early in time for the first Test in New Zealand starting on November 30th. All depends on how certain players perform in Zim.

 
problemjay 2017-10-06 22:28:50 

Bravo is already star and seen as one of the best active cricketers in the region. West Indies cricket (as a team) is so worthless now, by not selecting him it has no influence on his favoribility and credibility

 
rubberd 2017-10-07 09:34:34 

Without your best players this is what happens.

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Cause and effect.

 
Norm 2017-10-07 16:47:34 

In reply to sgtdjones

Man, you don't understand CWI recent strategy. It goes something like this:

(1) Don't play good batsmen - like Bravo(s), Gayle, etc. This sets low achievement expectations, so that when a WI batsman finally scores a fifty after about a dozen innings, everyone proclaims him the next great batsman, and the captain gets to talk about the "positives"!

(2) Don't play good batsmen. They make the new batch of WI batsmen look bad and remind us that WI cricket is much worse off under current administrations.

I think Darren B isn't really interested in dedicating himself to playing CWI cricket anymore, anyway. He wanted the standoff with Big Idiot to end, so that he could get on with his cricketing career as he sees fit.

 
Cornfused 2017-10-07 17:48:42 

In reply to buds

Another proper Test batsman, Darren Bravo seems to be waiting to make a comeback after his suspension.
Through Johnny Grave and Jimmy Adams we have tried to open the door for Darren to come back. With amnesty in place the door has opened a lot quicker. We did everything to entice him back for the England tour, which he quite rightly sat back and made his own decision to opt out of. We would love to have Darren back in the side because he is a class act. I have not spoken to him personally, but the talks that the CEO and Jimmy have had, they were encouraging signs.

 
rubberd 2017-10-08 08:02:09 

In reply to Cornfused

We did everything to entice him back for the England tour, which he quite rightly sat back and made his own decision to opt out of


Darren had a CPL contract which paid him more than he would have rec'd from touring England. HE IS NOT A "BIG IDIOT" so he played CPL, no brainer, easy choice.

Darren has a BPL contract so does 15 other West Indians. BPL pays more than test cricket, another no brainer, he is not on central contract, see where that "C contract" offer is continues to be a bad decision, unintended consequences.

STOP BLAMING BRAVO IF HE EXERCISES HIS OPTIONS WHICH STARTED WITH THE C CONTRACT OFFER, ADMINISTRATORS ARE ALSO ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY USE THEIR "JUDGEMENT" TO PUNISH.

 
jballer84 2017-10-08 08:14:04 

In reply to rubberd

Right and we have a other problem. The new contract period begins shortly. They probably won't offer him a contract since he hasn't played for a year. That will cause issues

 
doublecentury 2017-10-08 11:16:16 

He hasn’t played for a year because he was banned by Cameron even from practice matches,

 
rubberd 2017-10-08 13:49:33 

In reply to jballer84

Agreed! So how you going justify offering him a B contract since nothing has changed?
He not going to accept the C contract.
Unintended consequences when you seek to punish the talent and talent responds in ways you don't expect and the international law is not on your side.

Remember Warrican and Leon Johnson, men on retainer contract and cannot make an A team that is leadership and visonary.

 
tc1 2017-10-08 14:54:35 

In reply to doublecentury

Again, Bravo was given poor advice by his lawyers, u cannot curse your boss in public and remain in the company even if your boss is a 'big idiot'.

 
rubberd 2017-10-09 06:51:06 

In reply to tc1

Don't go back there, that been resolved and both men said their thing and it is on to the next stage.
LESSONS HAVE BEEN LEARNT AND BIG IDIOT HAS RETREATED, HE IS NOT AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR (DICTATOR).

 
DIEHARD 2017-10-09 11:19:32 

In reply to rubberd

Unintended consequences when you seek to punish the talent and talent responds in ways you don't expect and the international law is not on your side.


WOW...thank you for pointing out what i been trying to explain to people on here..once the administators start with these pissing contests..the "stars" can never lose..only the product suffers..and the fools would do well to recognize this..and offr the man the contract he deserved in the first place..

 
tc1 2017-10-09 12:59:24 

In reply to DIEHARD

Stars? who are these stars, pray tell me

 
natty_forever 2017-10-09 13:02:23 

In reply to tc1... ask H&H. STARS = Experienced Players, I taking a guess.

 
DIEHARD 2017-10-09 13:04:34 

In reply to tc1

Or you can do your own research on all the players who have had "tiffs" with WICB and are available to franchises more than they are to WI cricket

Here's a small list

Dwayne Bravo
Darren Bravo
Shiv Chanderpaul
Chris Gayle

 
SirGarny 2017-10-09 14:11:35 

In reply to tc1


Again, Bravo was given poor advice by his lawyers,


Not really...it's clear that Bravo has come out ahead...he's rested, richer, and has options.

What has the CONTROL BOARD (or CWI if you prefer), gotten out of the 'ordeal'? (check the run tally for Bravo's replacement on the test team and therein lies your answer.)

u cannot curse your boss in public and remain in the company even if your boss is a 'big idiot'.


So Bravo has opted to not play...it appears he's making more $$ not to. wink wink