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2nd Test - Zimbabwe v West Indies
Narper
2017-10-29 01:41:47
Stats and trivia
-The team winning the toss has won four of the last five Tests played at this ground.
-Zimbabwe won the toss 11 times in the first 12 Tests played at Queens, but have done so only four times in their 10 last games here.
-Devendra Bishoo needs two more scalps to reach 100 Test wickets.
-From the current team, Brendan Taylor is Zimbabwe's leading batsman at this ground, with 453 runs including a century and four fifties from the six Tests he has played here.
Narper
2017-10-29 01:44:51
Likely ZIMBABWE XI:
Hamilton Masakadza, Solomon Mire, Craig Ervine, Brendan Taylor, Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza, Malcolm Waller, Regis Chakabva (wk), Graeme Cremer (capt), Kyle Jarvis, Chris Mpofu.
Likely WI XI:
Kraigg Brathwaite, Kieran Powell, Kyle Hope, Shai Hope, Roston Chase, Jermaine Blackwood, Shane Dowrich (wk), Jason Holder (capt), Devendra Bishoo, Kemar Roach, Shannon Gabriel.
Narper
2017-10-29 01:45:34
Did you know?
- Devendra Bishoo needs just two scalps to reach 100 Test wickets. This will be his 28th Test.
- Graeme Cremer is yet to win a Test as Zimbabwe captain in six attempts, but could use some help at the toss given that only one team has lost the toss at Queens Sports Club and won the match since Zimbabwe returned to Test cricket in 2011. Thus far Cremer has won three of six tosses.
- Zimbabwe have scored four hundreds in five Tests at this ground since their 2011 return to Tests. Tino Mawoyo, Brendan Taylor, Sean Williams and Craig Ervine are the four batsmen who scored them.
Narper
2017-10-29 01:46:15
"For us to get over the 300-mark chasing more than 400, there are not many times that teams have done that. So it was good for us to know that if we have to do that in the second Test, we're capable of getting a 300-plus score batting last," - Zimbabwe coach Heath Streak.
shivnotout
2017-10-29 04:11:26
Zimbabwe win toss and opt to bat for the first 2days days
Team changes: While West Indies are unchanged, the hosts have made two changes. Peter Moor and Tendai Chisoro coming in for Sean Williams and Kyle Jarvis.
shivnotout
2017-10-29 04:21:47
out Caught by Dowrich!! Three in three for Roach. Against Mire. Lovely delivery from Roach, fuller and around the fourth-stump channel, made Mire play at that. Indecisive footwork, a tame poke and the outside edge is well held diving to his right by Dowrich. The early wicket has been provided by Roach. Mire c Dowrich b Roach 4(12) [4s-1]
zim 4-1
mikesiva
2017-10-29 04:44:58
In reply to shivnotout
Zimbabwe have two changes. Jarvis and Williams out. Moor and Chisoro in.
Gabriel and Roach account for the early wickets of Mire and Ervine.
Roach gets Taylor for one...big wicket that.
shivnotout
2017-10-29 05:24:44
In reply to mikesiva
ZIM 35/3 (16.1 Ovs)
mikesiva
2017-10-29 06:04:12
In reply to shivnotout
Lunch 56-3.
Masakadza 35*
goliath
2017-10-29 06:08:54
In reply to mikesivaapparently Angel got Masakadza with a no-ball
shivnotout
2017-10-29 06:16:35
ZIM 56/3 (25.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.24
Day 1: Lunch Break
Narper
2017-10-29 07:15:40
ZIM 81/3 (34.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.38
ST Gabriel 8.0 3 18 1
KAJ Roach 10.0 4 24 2
mikesiva
2017-10-29 07:20:45
In reply to goliath
That problem again...
Masakadza gets his half-century.
Khaga
2017-10-29 07:21:31
come on MassacreDa! screw Mindies..
Drapsey
2017-10-29 07:50:23
Ok, I'll ask the question.
Why would Holder see it fit to use Blackwood as first change bowler here after the ZIMs were reeling at 3-down for spit?
This after Blackwood hadn't been given a single over in the current or the previous series (England).
Narper
2017-10-29 08:00:12
Partnership: 100(202)
ZIM 114/3 (42.4 Ovs) CRR: 2.67
Peter Moor *34 (107
Hamilton Masakadza 74 (123
Narper
2017-10-29 08:00:14
ST Gabriel 10.4 3 30 1
JO Holder 11.0 1 28 0
doosra
2017-10-29 08:05:15
In reply to Drapsey
Trying to build up im kanfidunce
shivnotout
2017-10-29 08:05:52
ZIM 120/3 (43.5 Ovs) CRR: 2.74
Narper
2017-10-29 08:32:21
ZIM 136/3 (50.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.72
ST Gabriel 13.0 3 37 1 2.84 0 1
KAJ Roach 10.0 4 24 2 2.40 0 1
J Blackwood 4.0 1 8 0 2.00 0 0
JO Holder 11.0 1 28 0 2.54 0 0
D Bishoo 8.2 2 27 0 3.24 0 0
RL Chase 4.0 0 15 0 3.75 0 0
mikesiva
2017-10-29 08:47:20
In reply to Narper
Tea 147-3
Masakadza 93 not out
Moor 47 not out
Narper
2017-10-29 08:47:39
Day 1: Tea Break - Zimbabwe opt to bat
ZIM 147/3 (53.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.77
Partnership: 133(265)
ST Gabriel 13.0 3 37 1 2.84 0 1
KAJ Roach 10.0 4 24 2 2.40 0 1
J Blackwood 4.0 1 8 0 2.00 0 0
JO Holder 11.0 1 28 0 2.54 0 0
D Bishoo 10.0 2 34 0 3.40 0 0
RL Chase 5.0 0 16 0 3.20 0 0
Narper
2017-10-29 09:09:18
55.5
Roston Chase to Moor, FOUR, even the rapid Blackwood can't stop that from crossing the ropes. The crowd love it. A low full-toss, Moor gets forward and drives with an open face, beats Blackwood who gave a spirited chase till the last moment and even slid to cut it off, all to no avail. Fifty for Moor and it has been a fine innings
Narper
2017-10-29 09:13:56
57.6
Roston Chase to Moor, out Bowled!!
Moor b Roston Chase 52(155) [4s-3]
ZIM 156/4 (58.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.69
mikesiva
2017-10-29 09:15:03
In reply to Narper
I hope we don't regret not picking a left arm spinner in the squad.
Narper
2017-10-29 09:20:58
59.3
Roston Chase to Masakadza, 1 run, there it is. 100 for Masakadza. Everyone are going bonkers including his team-mates.His reaction though is relatively very subdued.Removes his helmet and points his bat. Hugs Raza.
Hamilton Masakadza 100 (169
Narper
2017-10-29 09:22:31
ZIM 167/4 (60.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.78
mikesiva
2017-10-29 09:28:08
In reply to Narper
Well done Hamilton.
camos
2017-10-29 09:32:19
In reply to Drapsey
Why would Holder see it fit to use Blackwood as first change bowler here after the ZIMs were reeling at 3-down for spit?
someone ask why Blackwood isn't being used and Cappo said let me try him!
Narper
2017-10-29 09:34:47
Day 1: Play stopped due to rain
ZIM 169/4 (61.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.77
A bitterly cold day in Bulawayo and most people are well covered and keeping themselves warm. The covers have been draped and we wait like always...
Narper
2017-10-29 09:37:22
jacksparrow
2017-10-29 10:33:15
In reply to Narper
Thats why the man subdued celebration today,accustomed to making runs against Windies lol,
Seriously though did Holder use Blackwood as a first change bowler? Oh boy.
Narper
2017-10-29 10:52:54
Day 1: Stumps
ZIM 169/4 (61.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.77
Hamilton Masakadza *101 (170
Sikandar Raza 9(14
ST Gabriel 13.0 3 37 1 2.84 0 1
KAJ Roach 10.0 4 24 2 2.40 0 1
J Blackwood 4.0 1 8 0 2.00 0 0
JO Holder 11.0 1 28 0 2.54 0 0
D Bishoo 14.0 2 46 0 3.28 0 0
RL Chase 9.0 1 26 1 2.88 0 0
Narper
2017-10-29 10:53:44
In reply to jacksparrow
Seriously though did Holder use Blackwood as a first change bowler? Oh boy.
Probably looking for a genius moment
Narper
2017-10-29 10:54:57
The big man got his 5th Test ton, only his second against the Windies. Windies, on the other hand, will rue that they let go of a good start.
Bishoo got some purchase but mostly it was slow turn for him. Roston Chase, though, has managed to extract pace and bounce. Zimbabwe will want to push things as much as they can from here.
Given how they ended the day after having their back against the wall, there is no reason to believe why they can't!
Play will start half an hour early for the next three days and 5 minutes before the scheduled start on the last day. !
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dayne
2017-10-29 11:44:57
Amazing move by Holder, after having Zim's back against the ropes, at 14 runs with three wickets down, he experiments with using Blackwood as the first change bowler. I guess he wants the match to last 5 days.
mikesiva
2017-10-30 05:16:19
In reply to dayne
Masakadza is finally out for 147 to Bishoo....
Waller out to the part-timers of Kraigg for a duck.
Bishoo gets his second wicket! Chakabva out for 10....
Raza gets his half-century....
shivnotout
2017-10-30 05:58:43
In reply to mikesiva
and Bishoo get 100 test wickets
mikesiva
2017-10-30 06:03:59
In reply to shivnotout
Good to see Bishoo reach that landmark....
Lunch Zimbabwe 296-7
Raza out to Gabriel for 80...310-8.
Narper
2017-10-30 07:09:14
Day 2: 2nd Session
ZIM 314/8 (105.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.99
Hamilton Masakadza c Dowrich b Bishoo 147
Sikandar Raza c KA Hope b Gabriel 80
Narper
2017-10-30 07:10:41
ST Gabriel 20.0 3 56 2 2.80 0 1
KAJ Roach 16.2 5 42 2 2.57 0 1
J Blackwood 4.0 1 8 0 2.00 0 0
JO Holder 16.0 2 49 0 3.06 0 0
D Bishoo 25.0 2 82 2 3.28 0 0
RL Chase 14.0 1 50 1 3.57 0 0
KC Brathwaite 10.0 0 23 1 2.30 0 0
Narper
2017-10-30 07:27:49
Zimbabwe 322/9
AG Cremer (c) run out (Holder) 11
Narper
2017-10-30 08:04:45
ZIM 326
WI 13/0 (5.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.6
Narper
2017-10-30 08:21:07
yardman83
2017-10-30 08:21:33
In reply to Narper
I am not getting this batting strategy by the West Indies. 13 runs off 9 overs. Surely they are creating extra pressure on themselves instead of trying to rotate te strike. I am not watching, but is the bowling that good?
Courtesy
2017-10-30 08:23:27
In reply to yardman83
They won the first test...safeguard this test and their objective will be met. No need for gay abandon. Just pad your batting averages.
yardman83
2017-10-30 08:27:54
In reply to Courtesy
So the plan is to play for a draw? You know what the result will be if they fail at that objective though? I think you can be positive without being reckless. The approach should probably be to bat once, but that would mean surpassing Zimbabwe's score. You know how our batting can be, so being positive should be the priority.
Courtesy
2017-10-30 08:32:42
In reply to yardman83
So the plan is to play for a draw? You know what the result will be if they fail at that objective though? I think you can be positive without being reckless. The approach should probably be to bat once, but that would mean surpassing Zimbabwe's score. You know how our batting can be, so being positive should be the priority.
The plan simply is
to not lose this test.
If the batsmen can get set then it helps the cause. Obviously they
should not get stalled when they have played themselves in 'cause this does not serve them in good stead either.
Blunting the new ball should be the first order of business.
analyst-kid
2017-10-30 08:38:37
In reply to yardman83
I can understand Brathwaite batting like this but not Powell....that is not his style or character....and he is also to complement Brathwaite with a more aggressive style.
camos
2017-10-30 08:43:33
In reply to analyst-kid
I can understand Brathwaite batting like this but not Powell
Brathwaite spot is secured Powell is fighting for his place, hope that helps.
runout
2017-10-30 09:22:42
How is it that when WI batting now there is no mention of strike rates.???
And them kill poor Shiv. Right now Shiv is like a bullet train.
And the natives are silent.
Judgement
2017-10-30 09:26:10
In reply to runout
I think most people forget its called TEST cricket for that very reason lol.
yardman83
2017-10-30 09:26:10
Narper
2017-10-30 09:31:43
WI 45/0 (27.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.67
Narper
2017-10-30 09:35:54
Narper
2017-10-30 09:38:29
WI 50/0 (29.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.72
Kieran Powell 22 (73
Kraigg Brathwaite 26 (101
Drapsey
2017-10-30 09:41:05
Who says Powell can't adapt?
The man has clearly adapted Braffit's artistry.
Narper
2017-10-30 09:44:51
In reply to Drapsey
I know one man is designated to play the anchor role...but now we have two to start the innings
Lets hope they both go on to make big TONS
Narper
2017-10-30 10:15:44
Day 2: 3rd Session - Windies trail by 263 runs
WI 63/0 (39.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.62
Last 10 overs: 13 runs, 0 wkts
Ovs Left: 8
tops
2017-10-30 10:17:41
In reply to Narper
"Lets hope they both go on to make big TONS"
Bai, this is not timeless test anymore. By the time the two a them done painting the factory gon run out a paint.
Narper
2017-10-30 10:18:38
In reply to tops
Naah....2nd innings Bishoo will get 8 wickets for spit...and WI will still beat Zim with a day to spare
tops
2017-10-30 10:21:17
In reply to Narper
Is today 2nd or 3rd day?
Narper
2017-10-30 10:33:39
WI 69/0 (43.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.6
Narper
2017-10-30 10:33:55
Discourse
2017-10-30 10:43:08
31/151 balls.............wow
mikesiva
2017-10-30 10:43:19
In reply to tops
You have to understand...we're playing against mighty Zimbabwe here. We have to fight and graft for every run against this towering side.
Zimbabwe's 326 came at three runs an over. We're doing half that!
Courtesy
2017-10-30 10:46:37
First four in forty minutes. I aint vex.
Courtesy
2017-10-30 10:49:06
Umpire's referral coming up for caught at FSL.
Courtesy
2017-10-30 10:50:07
Narper
2017-10-30 10:52:42
46.5
Cremer to Kraigg Brathwaite, out Caught by Masakadza!! That's a beautiful ball to get Kraigg Brathwaite. Bowls the sharp leg break that bounces, and Kraigg Brathwaite ends up fending it to the slip in place. Now, now, the replays suggest that Cremer might just have his foot on the line there. A slight pause but given in favour of the bowler, as it should be.
Kraigg Brathwaite c Masakadza b Cremer 32(160) [4s-2]
Pacy
2017-10-30 10:53:21
If you cant even score 2 runs an over against a bowling attack with no venom, it is sad.
yardman83
2017-10-30 10:53:35
Courtesy
2017-10-30 10:55:49
In reply to yardman83
I agree with you here. 46 overs is double what you need to get your eye in.
But I will take the small mercies in batting time.
Courtesy
2017-10-30 10:56:24
Watchie Bishoo in.
Full you boots here for Bishoo.
mikesiva
2017-10-30 10:58:07
In reply to yardman83
Kraigg out for 32 from 160 balls...I don't see how this helped the team.
Are we playing for a draw already?
Narper
2017-10-30 10:58:49
The specialist arrives
46.6
Cremer to Devendra Bishoo, no run, sharp spin nullified off the back foot
WI 76/1 (47.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.62
Devendra Bishoo *0
Kieran Powell 42 (122
Kraigg Brathwaite c Masakadza b Cremer 32(160) [4s-2]
Windies trail by 250 runs
Narper
2017-10-30 10:59:13
Three minutes to stumps then. Let's see how many more we can get
Courtesy
2017-10-30 10:59:23
Bishoo is shaping up better than Powell who has batted 47 overs.
NineMiles
2017-10-30 11:00:02
In reply to mikesiva
Stop complaining.... dats how di Paint operates!
Narper
2017-10-30 11:01:57
Day 2: Stumps - Windies trail by 248 runs
ZIM 326
WI 78/1 (49.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.59
Kieran Powell *43 (123
Devendra Bishoo 0 (11
Kraigg Brathwaite c Masakadza b Cremer 32(160) [4s-2]
doosra
2017-10-30 11:02:03
Jimmy will be proud
Courtesy
2017-10-30 11:03:16
Bishoo admires a wonderful googly from Cremer.
Referral...not out.
Discourse
2017-10-30 11:03:44
This is the slowest score after 40 overs in the 21st century.
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tops
2017-10-30 11:07:05
In reply to mikesiva
"Kraigg out for 32 from 160 balls."
Kraigg out for 32 from 26.4 overs. Fixed it...
Drapsey
2017-10-30 11:07:47
In reply to Discourse
This is the slowest score after 40 overs in the 21st century.
We thrive on superlatives.
yardman83
2017-10-30 11:08:47
In reply to mikesiva
It is sad. I am not saying we should play reckless cricket but be positive. I would have felt better to lose a wicket if we were 150. That is about where we would have been if we were scoring at 3 and over or close to that. Zimbabwe's best bowlers are their spinners so i do not understand this taking the shine off the ball business people taking about. Your openers supposed to be two of your more technically sound batsmen. They negotiated the first say 20 overs. It was time to start looking for runs. Now, 49 overs and all it takes is a few early wickets tomorrow, which is not unlike the West Indies for the complexion of this match to change quickly. This has to be a joke. It is not like it is England or New Zealand where they are reliant on their fastmen, this approach does not make sense to me. The aim is to develop the team and the aim should be to win this test match and not draw it.
mikesiva
2017-10-31 03:44:01
In reply to yardman83
Powell gets his half century. ...off 134 balls.
shivnotout
2017-10-31 03:56:21
WI 112/1 (57.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.96
Day 3: 1st Session - Windies trail by 214 runs
mikesiva
2017-10-31 04:34:54
In reply to shivnotout
Bishoo out for 23.
Kyle hope out for one. He shouldn't go to new Zealand IMHO.
Powell out for 90. Four down.
buds
2017-10-31 05:55:10
In reply to mikesiva
Club cricketer Powell out..Smh
mikesiva
2017-10-31 06:11:42
In reply to buds
Lunch 188-4
Shai Hope 23
Chase 16
runout
2017-10-31 07:03:06
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:12:26
Shai Hope has reached the point where he is now adding to his test average...36 NO.
Chase 25 NO
Score 211/4
yardman83
2017-10-31 07:16:39
In reply to runout
Chase and Hope showing a bit more urgency. Had paint n Powell played like this we would be leading by now.
runout
2017-10-31 07:21:17
In reply to yardman83
Bro. If you keep blocking you only build pressure. Perhaps the bowling is very good. This pair is rotating the strike. And that shows intent.
Before I would have sworn that Zimba-zim is bowling with a lead ball.
mikesiva
2017-10-31 07:23:25
In reply to runout
Chase out to Raza for 32...five down.
runout
2017-10-31 07:23:42
Chase goes. Shai was dropped in the previous over.
Come on WI this is Zimberland.
Drapsey
2017-10-31 07:23:43
Any bets on whether Blackwood gets stumped, again, or not?
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:24:05
Chase out LBW playing the reverse sweep.
Before this Shai was dropped by wkpr on 37.
yardman83
2017-10-31 07:25:32
In reply to runout
True. Is like ppl forget that WI still prone to collapses. All it takes is a couple quick wickets for our situation to change. Have to take advantage when the conditions are good. Play normal cricketing shots and take the runs when they come. Powell should have had a century. All down to the negative approach with him trying to outpaint paint.
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:25:32
Blackie dispatches his first ball to square leg four 4.
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:26:40
West Indies batters looking very hesitant against the twin spin.
runout
2017-10-31 07:27:01
In reply to Drapsey
Well he is a bad John. He goes to the fight, and it doesn't last long, usually. He come back bloodied and beaten and still feels like he kicked ass.
runout
2017-10-31 07:27:49
In reply to yardman83
Lol. Outpaint-paint????? Nevaaaaa. Lol
Narper
2017-10-31 07:30:39
98.3
Raza to Roston Chase, out Lbw!! Out of no where, something struck Roston Chase and he decided to deploy the reverse sweep against Raza's turn. Could not get his bat on it and was thudded around the knee-roll. Umpire Kumar Dharmasena took longer than ever but ruled in the bowler's favour.
Roston Chase lbw b Raza 32(45) [4s-3 6s-1]
100.6
Raza to Blackwood, out Caught by Cremer!! Raza is bowling like a dream. It's the sharp turn which has got him a wicket here. Turned sharply into Blackwood, who got the length right but the turn was too vicious to negotiate. He did all he could by trying to tuck with the turn, could not keep it down as there was some extra bounce and ended up hitting it flat towards short mid-wicket.
Blackwood c Cremer b Raza 5(13) [4s-1]
Drapsey
2017-10-31 07:30:56
Ahh, the streak of stumping broken!
That's a positive.
mikesiva
2017-10-31 07:31:02
In reply to Narper
Blackwood....
He seems to be in a hurry to go to the BPL.
Narper
2017-10-31 07:32:16
Day 3: 2nd Session - Windies trail by 100 runs
WI 226/6 (101.3 Ovs) CRR: 2.23
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:32:39
Blackie gone caught. Wasn't difficult to predict.
Both batters have been very hesitant to the spin.
Acid
2017-10-31 07:34:59
Blackwood is such a frustrating batsman
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:35:59
Dowrich gets off the mark but via the edge.
Dowrich must be shitting in his pants.
runout
2017-10-31 07:38:42
In reply to Acid
Did you say batsman??? The man is like a model. He comes out, give you the latest fashionable way to get out, and leaves promptly.
mikesiva
2017-10-31 07:43:47
In reply to Courtesy
Shai out for 40...Raza gets his five-fer.
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:44:06
Shai bowled for 40.
That's it folks.
yardman83
2017-10-31 07:44:30
In reply to mikesiva
Fifth
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:45:35
In reply to mikesiva
That was always in the making.
Shai was playing halfway. This is never a good technique on a turning pitch.
I haffi message him this.
runout
2017-10-31 07:45:43
In reply to mikesiva
5th. Now. How come our spinner can't do this????
Let me ask the question before You know who?
mittheimp
2017-10-31 07:45:50
dont get the bishoo nightwatchman idea - it means the liklihood of Holder / dowich being left stranded increases.
yardman83
2017-10-31 07:46:17
Waiting for the supporters of this negative approach to come and justify it now. We need to get close this score or else the pressure will be on us to save this match.
runout
2017-10-31 07:47:04
How unfortunate that our bowlers don't bowl at our batsmen?????
Courtesy
2017-10-31 07:49:30
In reply to yardman83
Brother the situation was not dire at the end of play yesterday despite the snail's pace. I would take one wicket down any day for 70 odd runs going in to the third even before we started batting.
But I agree with you. After the openers had gotten themselves in, they should have been looking to dominate the bowling.
Narper
2017-10-31 08:01:35
Shai Hope b Raza 40(101) [4s-5]
Narper
2017-10-31 08:01:50
WI 245/7 (109.3 Ovs) CRR: 2.24
krickit
2017-10-31 08:16:16
hey guys, any video links?
shivnotout
2017-10-31 08:18:57
In reply to Courtesy
Not given, Zimbabwe have no reviews left. Looked too close. Seemed a wicket to me. Holder was struck on the back foot, on the back leg, pretty low and perhaps in line as well. All three reds is what the replays show. Poor Raza will be dejected. Lesson: treat reviews like bank balance - save them
windies 257-7
Narper
2017-10-31 08:22:14
Day 3: 2nd Session - Windies trail by 61 runs
WI 265/7 (115.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.3
Jason Holder 12 (30
Shane Dowrich 26 (44
CB Mpofu 19.0 7 35 1 1.84 0 0
SF Mire 4.0 2 2 0 0.50 0 0
AG Cremer 33.3 7 102 1 3.04 0 0
Sikandar Raza 33.0 11 53 5 1.60 0 0
krickit
2017-10-31 08:24:13
mikesiva
2017-10-31 08:33:36
In reply to runout
Bishoo took nine in the first test. Cremer bowled well too.
The difference is that when Cremer is not among the wickets Raza is. Can we say the same about Chase?
We really should have carried another spinner on tour to share the work load with Bishoo.
shivnotout
2017-10-31 08:36:53
In reply to mikesiva
de umpire is among de wickets too
Not given, Zimbabwe have no reviews left. Looked too close. Seemed a wicket to me. Holder was struck on the back foot, on the back leg, pretty low and perhaps in line as well. All three reds is what the replays show. Poor Raza will be dejected. Lesson: treat reviews like bank balance - save them
natty_forever
2017-10-31 08:44:44
How much Blackwood mek? KMFT!
Narper
2017-10-31 09:05:41
Day 3: 3rd Session
WI 300/7 (124.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.42
Windies trail by 26 runs
Jason Holder 36* (57
Shane Dowrich 37* (72
Partnership: 70(121)
Discourse
2017-10-31 09:26:33
Crucial fifty.......congrats Dow, but some more needs to be done
You two need to hang in there longer, we are effectively 319/9
Narper
2017-10-31 09:30:52
127.3
Tendai Chisoro to Dowrich, FOUR, creams the overpitched ball through backward point for his 6th Test fifty. Punches the air in delight, after overcoming a string of poor scores. Vital innings this in the context of the game, even the series
Narper
2017-10-31 09:31:17
Day 3: 3rd Session
WI 321/7 (129.1 Ovs) CRR: 2.49
Windies trail by 5 runs
Shane Dowrich 54 (90
Jason Holder 40 (6871
runout
2017-10-31 09:37:49
Good knock Sugar Shane....congrats.
Discourse
2017-10-31 09:42:12
mikesiva
2017-10-31 09:44:04
In reply to Discourse
Good to see Dowrich getting a half-century...we had to wait 14 Test innings for that. I hope we don't have to wait another 14 for the next one.
Discourse
2017-10-31 09:44:57
327/7
OK we've moved to 1 run in the lead. Wonder how much we'll get? Batting on the last day??? We need a healthy lead here
Discourse
2017-10-31 09:45:27
In reply to mikesiva
correct
Drapsey
2017-10-31 09:48:57
132.3 0 Cremer to Holder, no run, starts outside leg and breaks away, poked wide of slip
I'm sorry, but I have to take exception to the way in which these CricInfo commies continue to characterize our players, our captain more so.
Discourse
2017-10-31 09:52:33
Nice fifty to cappo................Congrats in order
NineMiles
2017-10-31 09:56:48
Congrats to my Cappo on another half ton!
Discourse
2017-10-31 10:10:44
natty_forever
2017-10-31 10:30:34
... come on West Indies, a lead over 100 and then dead.
runout
2017-10-31 10:43:52
I see loads of threads on WI players starting up. Lest we forget, let's thank umpire Kumar for JHo's reprieve.
Otherwise we would have been bowling by now.
NineMiles
2017-10-31 11:04:13
In reply to runout
I see loads of threads on WI players starting up. Lest we forget, let's thank umpire Kumar for JHo's reprieve.
Should we also thank you for bringing it to our attention??
Bat on Cappo!
Narper
2017-10-31 11:19:27
Day 3: Stumps - Windies lead by 48 runs
WI 374/7 (150.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.49
Shane Dowrich *75 (153
Jason Holder 71(132
Partnership: 144(276)
runout
2017-10-31 11:23:58
In reply to NineMiles
Kumar decision is of consequence to the match, mine is a consequence of his blunder. Subtle? Nah....allyuh talk nah.
NineMiles
2017-10-31 12:11:25
In reply to runout
Every batsman gets a bad decision and will occasionally get a lucky one in their favour... it's no biggie really!
I'm happy he's still at the crease to extend the lead!
Bat on Cappo!
mikesiva
2017-11-01 04:16:30
In reply to NineMiles
400 up now....
412-7
Holder 94*
Dowrich 90*
NineMiles
2017-11-01 04:55:46
In reply to mikesiva
100 up for Cappo Holder.... Congratulations!
Bat on Cappo!
NineMiles
2017-11-01 05:00:28
Followed by Dowrich getting is first Test ton. Congrats kiddo!
mikesiva
2017-11-01 05:08:44
In reply to NineMiles
Dowrich out for 103....
Congrats to the two young men. They've put their side in a position from which they shouldn't lose.
tops
2017-11-01 05:11:56
Congrats Jason and Dowrich.
mikesiva
2017-11-01 05:18:09
In reply to tops
Holder out for 110....
West Indies 448 all out
part time offspinner 5-99
left arm spinner 3-113
I hope we won't regret the absence of a left-arm spinner. Can Chase match the achievements of Raza?
Larr Pullo
2017-11-01 05:34:49
In reply to mikesiva
I hope we won't regret the absence of a left-arm spinner.
Never fear, NoGooglyShoo is there....
mikesiva
2017-11-01 05:48:31
In reply to Larr Pullo
It's unreasonable to expect Bishoo to do everything, when the selectors pick three pacers in Roach, Gabriel and Holder on a spinning wicket.
Cremer bowled well in the first Test, like Bishoo. But Cremer didn't dominate the wicket-taking column this time, similar to Bishoo in the first innings.
Holder should've batted at seven in this Test, and a left-arm spinner included, to give the side balance.
Hopefully, scoreboard pressure will work its magic on the Zimbabwe batsmen. If it doesn't, then we can look to the absence of a left-arm spinner to support Bishoo as the missing link. The selectors seem to be unable to prepare for all possibilities, and these days they should expect spinning pitches.
mikesiva
2017-11-01 05:54:26
Roach gets Masakadza for five. That's a big wicket.
Roach gets a second! Mire out for a duck....
NineMiles
2017-11-01 06:07:14
In reply to mikesiva
Roachie is in a hurry to finish this match today....Zim are two down for 8 runs
mittheimp
2017-11-01 06:21:13
inspired holder captaincy to get Braithwait on to ensure another Roach over before lunch
Narper
2017-11-01 07:15:19
Day 4: 2nd Session - Zimbabwe trail by 102 runs
WI 448
ZIM 20/2 (12.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.67
KAJ Roach 5.0 3 2 2
doosra
2017-11-01 07:24:55
In reply to mikesiva
there's no leftie on tour
who?
Courtesy
2017-11-01 07:32:11
Wicket.
Taylor LBW Angel 10.
23/3
Narper
2017-11-01 08:07:28
Day 4: 2nd Session
ZIM 45/3 (22.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.05
Peter Moor 6 (20
Craig Ervine 22 (56
ST Gabriel 9.0 2 16 1
KAJ Roach 6.0 3 4 2
Devendra Bishoo comes into the attack
Drapsey
2017-11-01 08:09:16
Narper
2017-11-01 08:11:04
22.2
Devendra Bishoo to Craig Ervine, out Bowled!! Plays across the line of the ball and misses a sharp leg break to be clean bowled. I think he took it too casually. That ball landed on a length, the batsman went back and even accounted for the turn to play it with the turn but the ball sneaked between the bat and pad gap to rattle the sticks. Bishoo strikes in his very first over.
Craig Ervine b Devendra Bishoo 22(57) [4s-3]
natty_forever
2017-11-01 08:13:21
Can they make West Indies bat again?
mikesiva
2017-11-01 08:19:01
In reply to natty_forever
My fears are unfounded.
Narper
2017-11-01 08:36:39
ZIM 65/4 (30.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.17
runout
2017-11-01 08:43:22
Great knock JHo and Sugar Shane
natty_forever
2017-11-01 08:44:32
In reply to mikesiva... two more wickets after tea.
jacksparrow
2017-11-01 08:54:25
Congratz to the West Indies, not since 1908 according to Cricinfo have a nos. 8 and 9 achieved centuries in same match. Carry on!
Courtesy
2017-11-01 09:15:34
In reply to jacksparrow
Bish stop beating around the bush about Bishoo...Bishoo is the leg spinner in the West Indies team by default.
There are no better ones out there.
Nothing less nothing more.
Narper
2017-11-01 09:23:36
ZIM 98/4 (39.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.51
Partnership: 52(101)
runout
2017-11-01 09:24:05
In reply to Courtesy
Bishoo is the best spinner in the WI as demonstrated by his performance.
None better.
Courtesy
2017-11-01 09:25:35
Whappen Willow...lickit better than think it?
krickit
2017-11-01 09:40:40
krickit
2017-11-01 09:43:41
All these softy bowlers at the same time giving the batsmen batting practice.
Bishoo is an ON or OFF bowler. Right now he's OFF. Bowl someone else.
natty_forever
2017-11-01 10:39:03
Apply pressure yes West Indies ... pipe soon buss!
natty_forever
2017-11-01 10:42:23
Zafar: "considering that the WI are no walk over in competitive test cricket (last couple of years testify that), this is some good cricket shown by Zimbabwe."
... True or False?
mikesiva
2017-11-01 11:04:08
In reply to natty_forever
Brathwaite and Blackwood bowling now. It seems we could have done with a specialist left arm spinner.
krickit
2017-11-01 11:20:59
In reply to mikesiva
Like Windies more eager to see the end of play than Zim.
The Windies are playing for close-of-play.
Narper
2017-11-01 11:34:37
Day 4: Stumps - Zimbabwe lead by 18 runs
ZIM 140/4 (67.0 Ovs) CRR: 2.09
Peter Moor 39 (152
Sikandar Raza 58 (137
ST Gabriel 13.0 6 16 1 1.23 0 0
KAJ Roach 12.0 7 14 2 1.16 0 0
KC Brathwaite 9.0 1 19 0 2.11 0 0
JO Holder 12.0 2 29 0 2.41 0 0
D Bishoo 13.0 3 38 1 2.92 0 0
RL Chase 2.0 0 7 0 3.50 0 0
J Blackwood 6.0 3 11 0 1.83 0 0
mikesiva
2017-11-02 04:13:29
In reply to Narper
Moor out to Gabriel for 42. Five down.
goliath
2017-11-02 05:09:20
Zim 172-6...lead by 50 runs
80.4
Devendra Bishoo to Waller, out Caught by Blackwood!! GONE! Bishoo strikes The ploy to bowl from round the wicket has worked for the leggie. Floated up on a length, spinning across Waller with bounce, he just pushes at it and the edge flies to gully where Blackwood takes a sharp catch. Loose shot really. Timely strike for the Windies. The hosts need to build, again. !Waller c Blackwood b Devendra Bishoo 15(43) [4s-1]
goliath
2017-11-02 05:13:14
81.4
Holder to Raza, no run, pitched up around off, swinging in, push-driven towards mid-on
The amount of reverse swing with this older ball must be complicating Holder's thoughts regarding the second new ball.
81.3
Holder to Raza, no run, full and attacking the off pole, pushed gently back to the bowler
81.2
Holder to Raza, no run, sharp inward shape! On a length outside off, Raza leaves it but doesn't account for this drastic tail into him. Goes just past the off pole
Ruben
2017-11-02 05:18:22
In reply to goliath
Match is currently being shown on Sony ESPN Live
goliath
2017-11-02 05:30:54
In reply to Ruben Many thanks
granite
2017-11-02 05:42:30
If Zimbabwe had one more Paki on their team they would beat West Indies,someone like Imran Tahir,he shudda choose them instead of the Saffies.
Drapsey
2017-11-02 06:59:09
Yes skipper Holder, even if you have to do it yourself.
natty_forever
2017-11-02 07:52:02
Bishoo to Chakabva, 1 run, induces the edge, and dropped! Full on off, and straightens after pitching, takes a thick outside edge off the bat, and hits the keeper's gloves, falls just where first slip was standing, but the fielder at slip had moved to his left expecting the catch and not the deflection off Dowrich's glove. Bishoo ain't pleased
natty_forever
2017-11-02 08:00:35
Jason, the man them playing for a draw, time for a change up.
goliath
2017-11-02 08:06:41
"One wicket in each hour so far," says my colleague Hari Prasad. That's your summary for the day
krickit
2017-11-02 08:14:53
Chase insists on bowling at leg-stump with most of his deliveries turning down legside.
He isn't getting any bat-pad chances, no LBW, no caught-behind. SO FRIGGING DUMB!!!!
natty_forever
2017-11-02 08:21:44
Drapsey
2017-11-02 08:38:54
In reply to natty_forever
WK Dowrich reminds me of something I read while a kid.
Rohan Kanhai, as a Test wicketkeeper, was described as a fieldsman with gloves on.
natty_forever
2017-11-02 08:51:22
In reply to Drapsey... between the ump and Dowrich, ZIM looks like saving this. Can holder have one more brilliant moment as cappo?
mikesiva
2017-11-02 08:59:02
In reply to krickit
Tea 259-7
Brathwaite 12 overs, 0-25
Chase, 14 overs, 0-26
Blackwood, 6 overs, 0-11
Three part-timers doing the work that could've been done by a specialist left-arm spinner.
Discourse
2017-11-02 09:04:42
In reply to mikesiva
I guess this is what happens when you have no 'variety'. We suffered at the hands of the tailer-enders similarly in the last test...................seems we always do
Narper
2017-11-02 09:13:23
Day 5: 3rd Session
ZIM 263/7 (131.1 Ovs) CRR: 2.01
Zimbabwe lead by 141 runs
NineMiles
2017-11-02 09:19:10
In reply to Discourse
Oh well, think we can call it a drawn match now. Disappointing WI couldn't bowl out the Zim tail!
Still, can't complain about winning the series 1-0.
mikesiva
2017-11-02 09:21:31
Chakabva gets his half-century...a match-saving innings?
krickit
2017-11-02 09:27:19
In reply to NineMiles
Seems to me Holder's reluctance to bowl his wicket-taking front-line bowlers suggest he is just marking time.
krickit
2017-11-02 09:29:11
What became of the W.I fast bowlers?
natty_forever
2017-11-02 09:30:43
Seems captain happy with a draw.
Acid
2017-11-02 09:55:18
Hand shakes as they decide to call it off
Drapsey
2017-11-02 09:57:04
In reply to natty_forever
Seems captain happy with a draw.
... and first test series win.
Narper
2017-11-02 10:23:31
WI 448
ZIM 326, 301/7 (144.0 Ovs)
Match drawn
DIEHARD
2017-11-02 11:38:18
In reply to Drapsey
... and first test series win.
Against Zimbabwe...nothing else would be acceptable..
Narper
2017-11-02 14:29:55
Graeme Cremer:
"It feels good, coming from behind in a lot of this Test match. We were behind on the second and third day, today as well. Feels good to know that we are a team that will fight till the end. Lot of positives. We dropped a few catches, which obviously doesn't help. The wicket wasn't doing as much as we thought it might but dropped catches never help. Nobody wants to put catches down but that cost us. (On DRS errors) The biggest challenge in our team is that everyone wants to take the review as soon as they hit the pad. There has to be some thought on it, perhaps more confidence needed from the keeper. It will improve as we play more. (On Raza and Chakabva) Raza was exceptional, especially with the ball. It wasn't his job to come up and take five. He was supposed to do the holding job but ended up proving to be our most effective bowler. Just shows what a great all-rounder he is. Just getting better and better. Chakabva was under pressure going into this game, was short of runs and it was really nice to see him come good. We have got more than just 1-2 players putting their hands up and that is a good sign going forward."
Narper
2017-11-02 14:30:23
Sikander Raza, Man of the Match:
"I think we put huge emphasis on our fitness and to take it seriously. That has shown in our performances and it is nice to see our focus being rewarded. (On being just the 2nd player to have two 80s and a 5-fer in a Test) I wasn't aware of that to be honest. To have your name next to the legend of the game is quite humbling. I am lost for words to be honest. It is a really proud feeling. We have a Test match in December, I had an awful first Test match and I am glad I came back well. It was something my teammates expected and I expected as well. To come back personally so well and also as a team gives us a huge confidence. (On the DRS errors) I said to skipper that there is no chance that I'm going up for a review anymore, it is the keeper's call."
Narper
2017-11-02 14:30:53
Devendra Bishoo, Man of the Series:
"Very happy. After England, it was good here and I made the most out of it. The second Test pitch was slower than the first one. The ball wasn't spinning much as the first game. I keep on working in the nets on my variations, especially the googly. It is just a matter of time before everything comes out well. I am looking forward to New Zealand."
Narper
2017-11-02 14:31:23
Jason Holder:
"(On his first international series win as captain) It feels really good, the guys have put in a really good effort. Since a while, we have done well but not been able to get across the line in an entire series. Credit goes to the entire team for their efforts. (On not closing out this game) Obviously disappointed not to bowl them out twice. The conditions were really tough, they batted really well as well. The DRS errors didn't help but that is how the game works. It evens things out eventually. Zimbabwe played some really good cricket throughout the series and I would like to commend them for it. Hopefully they can keep it going. It wasn't easy at all, credit to Cremer and his boys. Their spinners kept the pressure on us. (On the DRS challenge) It is difficult, I remarked to many about the Hawk Eye cameras, sometimes ball tracking shows differently from what we feel with the naked eye. We just have to go with our judgement, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. (Future of the team) The team is going in the right direction, we will have a training camp in Australia before going to New Zealand. The tour won't be easy at all, so it is important for us to adjust properly and get fit physically as far as mentally."