Langeveldt
Charl Langeveldt will not be retained as South Africa's bowling coach with Ottis Gibson expected to take over the role alongside his duties as head coach. Although he did not confirm whom he has been scouting, Gibson is expected to appoint the rest of his support staff over the next few weeks, which will include an assistant coach, a batting coach, a fielding coach and a spin-bowling coach.
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Gibson to take over SA bowling coach role from
2017-10-31 10:52:10
2017-10-31 12:49:12
In reply to djdrastic
What's your take on Gibson?
2017-10-31 13:43:37
In reply to mikesiva
Feel neutral about the guy.Has good credentials and I think if we can get the best 11 on the park he will get decent results at least for the interim.When the seniors retire its gonna be ugly though.
Don't really think we got a coach problem tbh or problems that can get solved by the coach; Our local cricket has had a huge drop in quality paired up with a financially struggling cricket board as well as a shallow talent pool.
As long as he doesn't elevate a Sammy style player or sit and stab players in the back like he did when he was at WI I'll probably remain the same about the guy.
2017-10-31 13:55:22
In reply to djdrastic
Feel neutral about the guy.Has good credentials and I think if we can get the best 11 on the park he will get decent results at least for the interim.When the seniors retire its gonna be ugly though.
Using the word ugly while discussing Coach Gibson is not allowed on this messageboard.
2017-10-31 13:56:02
In reply to djdrastic
That sounds like a fair assessment.
2017-10-31 15:05:29
In reply to djdrastic
As long as he doesn't elevate a Sammy style player or sit and stab players in the back like he did when he was at WI I'll probably remain the same about the guy.
Didn't he already stab Langeveldt ?
How many more will be stabbed?
2017-10-31 16:09:30
In reply to Narper
Haha , to be honest he is within his rights if he maybe wants more control as a coach.
I thought Langes did an OK job since AD quit,so I'm sure he'd be a bit gutted.
We'll just have to see what develops from here Narper.
2017-10-31 16:12:20
In reply to Drapsey
2017-10-31 16:45:58
In reply to Narper
The man get to hire his coaches, unlike Law who get what the CWI, gives him.
2017-10-31 16:56:52
Gibson is a proven bowling coach
having charl on board might have caused some conflict ...ideas, strategies etc
better to have 1 boss on board
2017-10-31 17:04:15
In reply to openning
You should know already that anything Narps says about Gibson should be discounted by a factor of infinity
2017-10-31 17:13:46
In reply to Walco
Narp is a loyalist to Shiv and Sarwan
2017-10-31 17:18:34
In reply to djdrastic
It’s only natural that the greatest bowling coach in the history of mankind would want to be responsible for his own bowling unit.
On a slightly more serious note, “shallow talent pool?” I would swap the West Indies talent pool for the South Africa talent pool in a heartbeat.
2017-10-31 17:29:06
In reply to Walco
You should know already that anything Narps says about Gibson should be discounted by a factor of infinity
We will see who will be proven correct
BTW it was the original Saffie KP who called him a lap top coach.
2017-10-31 17:38:10
In reply to Narper
People change Narps. Bill Belichek failed miserably as coach of the Cleveland Browns and look where he is now. Possibly the greatest coach in the history of the NFL.
For purposes of clarity though, are you predicting that Gibson will be a failure as coach of the South Africa team?
2017-10-31 18:46:36
In reply to djdrastic
Don't really think we got a coach problem tbh or problems that can get solved by the coach; Our local cricket has had a huge drop in quality paired up with a financially struggling cricket board as well as a shallow talent pool.
Suh you tink the master plan was to give Gibson the head coach job and then double up his duty with that of the bowling coach for the same salary hence saving the bowling coach salary?
That was really a smart ploy and can only happen to a West Indian. The man was so blinded by the main contract for the big job he didn't see or care about the attachments .....
2017-10-31 18:53:58
In reply to Walco
For purposes of clarity though, are you predicting that Gibson will be a failure as coach of the South Africa team?
Yes he will be a failure as HEAD COACH
His failure will be due to lack of man management skills
And he is smart enough to make sure he takes responsibility for fast bowling...his only strength.
2017-10-31 19:38:41
In reply to Narper
What exactly would constitute failure as the head coach? Failure to be ranked No. 1 in Tests? Failure to make the ODI WC finals? Nonrenewal of his contract when it expires in 2 years?
2017-10-31 20:15:02
In reply to Walco
What exactly would constitute failure as the head coach?
1) moving down in the ICC ranking as a result of poor performances...team and key players
2) obvious dissent in the team
3) irrational selections and omissions
4) senior players making themselves unavailbale
5) dismissal before contract expiry date
2017-10-31 20:24:35
In reply to Narper
Number 2 and number 3 are somewhat subjective criteria, but I’m cool with number 1, number 4 and number “4”. What about World Cups? That’s where South Africa has historically been most disappointing. That’s where they earned the choker tag.
2017-10-31 20:41:53
In reply to Walco
Bill Belichek failed miserably as coach of the Cleveland Browns and look where he is now. Possibly the greatest coach in the history of the NFL.
Look, he is de biggest tief in football. Before deflate gate, remember how he had secretly had the Giants practice taped years ago? A team where he had been defensive coordinator by the way. And other complaints about him, but he seems to be coated in teflon.
2017-10-31 20:47:37
In reply to Walco
What about World Cups? That’s where South Africa has historically been most disappointing. That’s where they earned the choker tag
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Now if...RSA wins the WC....den he will be head coach for life...would be elevated to just below Mandela status
2017-10-31 22:12:38
Gibson is a great bowling coach, that part i'm confident he'll be a great asset towards South Africa.
2017-10-31 23:15:26
In reply to jen
Gibson is a great bowling coach
This is being bandied around a lot. But how so? How much did he help the spinners? Did you notice he is bringing in a spin bowling coach for RSA?
What did he really for the WI bowling? Not much to work with? True...so where is the greatness?
On the other hand...He had a lot to work with in England...and England's attack was decent in England....not so decent outside of England....BTW didn't Sarwan et al murder a Gibson coached England attack in the WI?
How much did Gibson help spinners like Swan, Panesar and now Moeen Ali? recently Moeen has been praising and bawling for Saqlain to be retained by England.
What did Gibson do for Bishoo....after an excellent start in test cricket...
How did the Gibson coached attack do in India? RSA? OZ?
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