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Close to 30 dead in church shooting in Texas -updated

 
Chrissy 2017-11-05 14:29:28 

First Baptist church - dat means African-American church. No details yet

 
black 2017-11-05 14:34:29 

In reply to Chrissy

Not necessarily.

 
Chrissy 2017-11-05 14:40:22 

In reply to black

Looks like 24 dead.

Yep many are mixed

 
black 2017-11-05 14:43:46 

In reply to Chrissy

I was close to that county, two months ago. Texas is unbelievably big.

 
NineMiles 2017-11-05 14:52:16 

In reply to Chrissy

ISIS soon take credit!

 
NineMiles 2017-11-05 14:54:07 

Re; gun control, was there a 'good man' with a gun in the church to stop this slaughter??

 
NineMiles 2017-11-05 14:55:37 

In reply to Chrissy

27 dead.... 24 injured!

Shooter dead!

 
bravos 2017-11-05 14:59:08 

RIP.

It continues.

 
ray 2017-11-05 15:01:07 

In reply to NineMiles

Us= WIld Wild West

 
Runs 2017-11-05 15:02:34 

RIP to all, I strongly condemn this senseless act of violence.

 
TheTrail 2017-11-05 15:21:35 


Population:335
White Population:
271
Black Population:
1
Hispanic Population:
127
Asian Population:
0
Hawaiian Population:
0
Indian Population:
5
Other Population:
52


You are not safe anywhere - not even in your church of worship.

 
black 2017-11-05 16:48:59 

In reply to TheTrail


Population:335
White Population:
271
Black Population:
1
Hispanic Population:
127
Asian Population:
0
Hawaiian Population:
0
Indian Population:
5
Other Population:
52


The more you go west, the less black people you will see. I have traveled to some places in Texas and I was surprised to see black people there.

It's human nature to look for your own people, when you are out of your comfort zone. lol

 
black 2017-11-05 17:20:54 

If you are traveling to some places in West Texas, you need to have a full tank of gas, it not uncommon to travel for more than an hour without a gas station in sight.

 
Chrissy 2017-11-05 17:43:26 

In reply to NineMiles

Shooter named Devin - Devin Kelley -WASP

 
black 2017-11-05 17:56:24 

In reply to Chrissy

Devin Patrick Kelley

 
Drapsey 2017-11-05 18:02:07 

In reply to black

Devin.

Former US Air Force 'officer'.

 
black 2017-11-05 18:09:17 

In reply to Drapsey

Yes, the TV person originally said David.

 
black 2017-11-05 18:12:07 

In reply to Drapsey

He is from New Braunfels, town between Austin and San Antonio. Closer to San Antonio.

 
Emir 2017-11-05 18:12:38 

In reply to Chrissy

Devin Kelley -WASP

Nah nah, doh mention his religion nah, the 6 muslim haters in here will get vex.

 
sgtdjones 2017-11-05 18:18:17 

In reply to black

I was close to that county, two months ago. Texas is unbelievably big.

If you are traveling to some places in West Texas, you need to have a full tank of gas, it not uncommon to travel for more than an hour without a gas station in sight.


You have been in 'merica to long. In some provinces in Canada, one can fit two Texas and still have room.

 
sgtdjones 2017-11-05 18:20:57 

In reply to Emir

Nah nah, doh mention his religion nah, the 6 muslim haters in here will get vex.


Just like you ranting about Hindu's in India.

 
black 2017-11-05 18:21:30 

In reply to sgtdjones

You have been in 'merica to long. In some provinces in Canada, one can fit two Texas and still have room
.

Yeah, but Canada"s population is barely bigger than Texas. lol

 
Jabari18 2017-11-05 18:24:52 

Wow cry cry cry

 
sgtdjones 2017-11-05 18:25:28 

In reply to black

Dem gats smart people up North.

You gats Emir .

That says it all

lol lol lol

 
powen001 2017-11-05 18:49:29 

In reply to NineMiles

ISIS soon take credit!


Well Trump will never call the white boy out as a Terrorist...

usual play book of INSANITY...
and nothing to do with guns....

And he is not a terrorist...just a deranged individual...

steupse

 
nitro 2017-11-05 18:58:57 

In reply to powen001

terrorist
ˈtɛrərɪst/Submit
noun
1.
a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
synonyms: bomber, arsonist, incendiary; More
adjective
1.
unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"a terrorist organization"

 
Emir 2017-11-05 19:00:01 

In reply to sgtdjones

Just like you ranting about Hindu's in India.


Show me one post, only one, where I "ranting about Hindus in India" or where I have said bad "things bout Hindus in India."

 
nitro 2017-11-05 19:02:52 

In reply to powen001

His motive will determine if he is a terrorist. Whether he is a sick mass murderer, serial killer or a terrorist is not yet known.

 
nitro 2017-11-05 19:05:31 

It appears the scumbag was shot by a firearm holder as he was leaving the church.

 
powen001 2017-11-05 19:14:43 

In reply to nitro

Motive...well..short of video evidence...or proof of him saying his WHY...then..

until...

The hypocrisy in these incidents are kind of boring now.

 
sgtdjones 2017-11-05 19:18:54 

In reply to Emir

Proof....? all you need to do is regain your memory
and it will all show up.

It's the same rant you have against the Guyanese, I have noticed.

I wonder what these people have done to you?.

The only theory I can come up with, your head has been so far up Eric Williams arse, that now its difficult for you to see.



evil evil evil

 
bravos 2017-11-05 19:31:59 

Stop using these unfortunate events to humanity to fuel your agendas.

It's disgusting for fuck sake.

 
JahJah 2017-11-05 19:45:55 

In reply to powen001

What is your definition of a terrorist?

 
powen001 2017-11-05 20:23:05 

In reply to JahJah

My definition- someone who seeks to cause fear, terror and to disrupt the lives of another group by stealth and sudden violence...to murder as many unsuspecting persons as possible - full stop.

cause no End Game they tout is based on any truth whatsoever.

 
Emir 2017-11-05 20:30:41 

In reply to powen001

My definition- someone who seeks to cause fear, terror and to disrupt the lives of another group by stealth and sudden violence...to murder as many unsuspecting persons as possible - full stop.


Well well said
, no sane person will disagree with you.

But for the few haters in here, they only equate terrorism with those claim to be Muslims.

Their agenda is hate of Muslims, so they will gladly implicate an entire religion b/c it suits their hate agenda.

 
black 2017-11-05 20:31:10 

In reply to powen001

My definition- someone who seeks to cause fear, terror and to disrupt the lives of another group by stealth and sudden violence...to murder as many unsuspecting persons as possible - full stop


In your quest to label everything terrorism, you've come up with classic bullshit.

So every murderer that ever killed more than 2 people is a terrorist?

 
JahJah 2017-11-05 21:17:44 

In reply to black

Critical thinking is a lost art. big grin Powen probably doesn't know if he's coming or going.

In Emir's case, his brain is way past critical condition. DOA. big grin

All Emir can see is Muslim this, muslim that. That's his only concern. Trying to keep score with no rationale involved.

 
JahJah 2017-11-05 21:20:06 

In reply to powen001

Really?? So drive-by shooters in 'the hood' are terrorists?

 
Norm 2017-11-05 21:24:27 

In reply to nitro

It appears the scumbag was shot by a firearm holder as he was leaving the church.

I'll have to remember to be armed to the teeth next I show up for church, camouflage suit and all. Church-going is fast becoming a hazardous occupation now, dammit! Have to up my life insurance too ... smile

 
black 2017-11-05 22:12:36 

In reply to JahJah


In Emir's case, his brain is way past critical condition. DOA


lol lol lol

 
sgtdjones 2017-11-05 22:23:56 

In reply to JahJah

lol lol lol lol

 
powen001 2017-11-06 05:19:10 

In reply to JahJah

Really?? So drive-by shooters in 'the hood' are terrorists?


whats the difference?

The very name - DRIVE BY says the approach is to catch someone off guard...

How many innocent people get killed in Drive Bys ...in the Hood?

I dont even care what your agenda is here...but give it some thought...and apply it to my definition and tell me whats missing from your Drive By scenario.

Ill be back here eventually

 
powen001 2017-11-06 05:21:53 

In reply to black

see what I said to JahJAh.

You however must first define Murder..which is not just intentional but in most cases the victim is pre known and targetted from murder ...not simply in the wrong place at the wrong time....and I aint no lawyer but hey...

for you too I dont know your Agenda but please excrete the Bullshi$ from what I posted so I can amend or update.

Thanks.

 
Chrissy 2017-11-06 05:29:37 

In reply to Drapsey

Discharged for assaulting wife and child - never saw combat.

 
Chrissy 2017-11-06 05:31:29 

In reply to nitro

KYS

 
JahJah 2017-11-06 06:40:23 

In reply to powen001

Irrelevant.

Terrorist

Have you researched the word/term/concept and it origins.

Not what YOU want it to be. What it really is.

Have you? Is the motive a determinant?

*I mean, Pele used to terrorise defences. A (school) bully terrorises his or her victim.

My agenda: common sense. I don't know yours. Please share.

 
Larr Pullo 2017-11-06 06:44:44 

In reply to Chrissy

First Baptist church - dat means African-American church. No details yet
Is it still a black church?

 
Larr Pullo 2017-11-06 06:45:56 

In reply to Chrissy

Yep many are mixed


Is it still a "swirly" church?

 
Drapsey 2017-11-06 06:53:44 


Just love this spin.

The Texas church massacre could have been worse if not for one man

Were it not for a local resident who confronted the gunman, the deadliest shooting in Texas history could have claimed even more lives.

 
black 2017-11-06 07:22:40 

In reply to powen001


see what I said to JahJAh.

You however must first define Murder..which is not just intentional but in most cases the victim is pre known and targetted from murder ...not simply in the wrong place at the wrong time....and I aint no lawyer but hey...

for you too I dont know your Agenda but please excrete the Bullshi$ from what I posted so I can amend or update.

Thanks.


We can either identify these people and their behaviors in order to prevent future incidents or we can classify all as terrorism and nothing gets done.

Which one is your solution?

 
JahJah 2017-11-06 07:29:09 

In reply to black

Every murderer is a terrorist under powen's definition, which isn't the actual definition of terrorism.

He's acting off emotion.

 
black 2017-11-06 08:03:41 

In reply to Chrissy

Discharged for assaulting wife and child - never saw combat
.

I like how you put a good spin on it.

Assaulting wife and children is part for the course.

 
JahJah 2017-11-06 08:04:20 

In reply to Drapsey

Doesn't make it any less true though. The police apparently weren't there yet, so maybe it was good that the guy wasn't able to create more carnage and increase the body count...no?

Now, that doesn't mean everyone should be armed to the teeth like the fools want. I mean, everybody being armed is a colossal receipe for disaster. Just imagine all the hot heads down in Jamaica packing and man step pon anedda 'criss bally boot'.

 
ray 2017-11-06 08:07:52 

In reply to black

serious gun control legislation...

lots of people have mental health problems...why give them access to guns?

 
black 2017-11-06 08:21:46 

In reply to ray

I don't disagree.

 
Drapsey 2017-11-06 08:58:49 

In reply to JahJah

Doesn't make it any less true though. The police apparently weren't there yet, so maybe it was good that the guy wasn't able to create more carnage and increase the body count...no?

Yep, I can see it now.

This coward, armed with AR rifle, which he just used to slaughter some 20-plus church goers, dropped the rifle and took off at the sight of an armed villager.

But maybe that's part of the survival skill developed by his US Air Force training.

 
black 2017-11-06 09:34:28 

In reply to powen001

And you call yourself a Christian?

This guy received a bad conduct discharge from the military, served time in a military prison for domestic abuse.

Let's classify them all as terrorists, forget about finding solutions to prevent this from happening in the future.

 
bravos 2017-11-06 09:42:20 

In reply to Drapsey

the deadliest shooting in Texas history could have claimed even more lives.


yeah it could've been the 'deadlier' deadliest shooting in Texas.

Dem jokey bad yes...

I will reserve my 'lol' as it wouldn't be appropriate in these circumstances,but more and more I listen to Americans the more I realize they haven't changed much .

 
black 2017-11-06 12:10:00 

This shooter's ex mother-in-law attended the church he shot up. She was not there at the time

 
JahJah 2017-11-06 12:23:04 

In reply to Drapsey

You're Jamaican. How many of those so called bad man are brave without a weapon? Those weapons are merely 'dick extension' for the most part.

Even bullies. Dem tough until you step to dem. Then they turn int wall flowers.

Dudes who walk in gangs and feel tough. A lot of them when they're on their own...

Life.

 
bravos 2017-11-06 12:37:19 

In reply to JahJah

That's why as bad as it looks and as much as they keep saying "look at them" our problems are less than theirs,all kina differently driven sickos,you can't even put your finger on them to begin to assess them and take precautions..

 
runout 2017-11-06 12:43:17 

In reply to Chrissy

First Baptist church - dat means African-American church. No details yet



Seems like we have lots more issues when atrocities are highlighted based on the race of the victims. And in this case, it wasn't blacks who were killed.

 
Drapsey 2017-11-06 12:59:01 

In reply to JahJah

I'm just not buying the part about the (coward) mass murderer dropping his gun and running away as soon as the good-guy with a gun shows up.

Even more so with the fact that this part of the story took so long to materialize. The murderous act took place at 11 something yesterday morning. It was some 8 hours or so later that the hero part broke.

 
granite 2017-11-07 06:24:35 

When there is a mass shooting by a white American in the USA,and we are told it's someone with"mental health" issues,why then,there is little or no re-action by the authorities.No politician has yet called for an urgent summit about "mental health",problems,no cries for increase funding,no new legislation to regulate treatment,the authorities can at least try.
There is a big difference with terrorist crimes which reshape public debate,and the non terrorist crimes that don't,although the crimes are difficult to tell apart.

 
black 2017-11-07 08:06:24 

In reply to Drapsey

Even more so with the fact that this part of the story took so long to materialize. The murderous act took place at 11 something yesterday morning. It was some 8 hours or so later that the hero part broke.


These matters have to be thoroughly investigated in order to get the correct information to the public. A lot of work goes into securing a crime scene, it involves, identifying the victims, the shooter, type of weapons, eyewitness reports, motives, etc. And, all of these things have to be corroborated, including, was the suspect killed by his own weapon or by someone else?

 
granite 2017-11-07 09:07:03 

In reply to black
Yes it has to be properly investigated before they decide to make it news,not true,when incidents like this happen in the USA,everybody to a man decides it's a Muslim terrorist.The facts,are plain and simple to understand,mass shootings in the USA outnumber terrorists acts by so called Muslims,white shooters are well ahead of foreign terrorists,suspicions should first fall on white American shooters,but that doesn't happen.Even posters like you would be thinking Muslim terrorists.Has that articulate Snoop Dog said anything,he hasn't because he is just a muslim hater,so many others are like him,objectivity is not their style,they are relegious fanatics just like ISIS.

 
black 2017-11-07 09:54:03 

In reply to granite

I don't think it's that hard to figure out that a guy with a name like "Khalid" could be linked to terrorists, but as far as other details, it takes time just like any other incident.

All shootings are tragic, regardless of who committed them, but most of the defenders of Islam are trying to even the score by classifying all incidents as terrorism. Like I said before, all are tragic and repulsive acts, regardless of who committed them, but to say they are all terrorism, will not be helpful in finding. solutions.

 
SnoopDog 2017-11-07 09:57:37 

In reply to Mulla bin granite

Has that articulate Snoop Dog said anything


I see you're daydreaming about me again Bro. lol

This latest White evangelical Christian mass murderer is not so fundamentally different from your ISIS buddies. They are all peas of the same pod. Religious nutbags who would all dearly love to bring the world back to medieval times.

 
black 2017-11-07 10:42:36 

In reply to SnoopDog

This guy was a nutcase with a history of domestic violence, he was put in jail for cracking a baby's skull.

 
Jabari18 2017-11-07 21:22:39 

In reply to SnoopDog

Link Text

Claims that he was an Atheist not an Evangelical Christian

 
DukeStreet 2017-11-07 22:36:45 

In reply to Drapsey
I hear the terrorist went there looking to cap his mother-in-law, didn't find her so he killed all dem other people. SMH.

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