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Close to 30 dead in church shooting in Texas -updated
In reply to Chrissy
Not necessarily.
In reply to black
Looks like 24 dead.
Yep many are mixed
In reply to Chrissy
I was close to that county, two months ago. Texas is unbelievably big.
In reply to Chrissy
ISIS soon take credit!
Re; gun control, was there a 'good man' with a gun in the church to stop this slaughter??
In reply to Chrissy
27 dead.... 24 injured!
Shooter dead!
RIP.
It continues.
In reply to NineMiles
Us= WIld Wild West
RIP to all, I strongly condemn this senseless act of violence.
Population:335
White Population:
271
Black Population:
1
Hispanic Population:
127
Asian Population:
0
Hawaiian Population:
0
Indian Population:
5
Other Population:
52
You are not safe anywhere - not even in your church of worship.
In reply to TheTrail
White Population:
271
Black Population:
1
Hispanic Population:
127
Asian Population:
0
Hawaiian Population:
0
Indian Population:
5
Other Population:
52
The more you go west, the less black people you will see. I have traveled to some places in Texas and I was surprised to see black people there.
It's human nature to look for your own people, when you are out of your comfort zone.
If you are traveling to some places in West Texas, you need to have a full tank of gas, it not uncommon to travel for more than an hour without a gas station in sight.
In reply to NineMiles
Shooter named Devin - Devin Kelley -WASP
In reply to Chrissy
Devin Patrick Kelley
In reply to black
Devin.
Former US Air Force 'officer'.
In reply to Drapsey
Yes, the TV person originally said David.
In reply to Drapsey
He is from New Braunfels, town between Austin and San Antonio. Closer to San Antonio.
In reply to Chrissy
Nah nah, doh mention his religion nah, the 6 muslim haters in here will get vex.
In reply to black
If you are traveling to some places in West Texas, you need to have a full tank of gas, it not uncommon to travel for more than an hour without a gas station in sight.
You have been in 'merica to long. In some provinces in Canada, one can fit two Texas and still have room.
In reply to Emir
Just like you ranting about Hindu's in India.
In reply to sgtdjones
Yeah, but Canada"s population is barely bigger than Texas.
Wow
In reply to black
Dem gats smart people up North.
You gats Emir .
That says it all
In reply to NineMiles
Well Trump will never call the white boy out as a Terrorist...
usual play book of INSANITY...
and nothing to do with guns....
And he is not a terrorist...just a deranged individual...
steupse
In reply to powen001
terrorist
ˈtɛrərɪst/Submit
noun
1.
a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
synonyms: bomber, arsonist, incendiary; More
adjective
1.
unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"a terrorist organization"
In reply to sgtdjones
Show me one post, only one, where I "ranting about Hindus in India" or where I have said bad "things bout Hindus in India."
In reply to powen001
His motive will determine if he is a terrorist. Whether he is a sick mass murderer, serial killer or a terrorist is not yet known.
It appears the scumbag was shot by a firearm holder as he was leaving the church.
In reply to nitro
Motive...well..short of video evidence...or proof of him saying his WHY...then..
until...
The hypocrisy in these incidents are kind of boring now.
In reply to Emir
Proof....? all you need to do is regain your memory
and it will all show up.
It's the same rant you have against the Guyanese, I have noticed.
I wonder what these people have done to you?.
The only theory I can come up with, your head has been so far up Eric Williams arse, that now its difficult for you to see.
Stop using these unfortunate events to humanity to fuel your agendas.
It's disgusting for fuck sake.
In reply to powen001
What is your definition of a terrorist?
In reply to JahJah
My definition- someone who seeks to cause fear, terror and to disrupt the lives of another group by stealth and sudden violence...to murder as many unsuspecting persons as possible - full stop.
cause no End Game they tout is based on any truth whatsoever.
In reply to powen001
Well well said, no sane person will disagree with you.
But for the few haters in here, they only equate terrorism with those claim to be Muslims.
Their agenda is hate of Muslims, so they will gladly implicate an entire religion b/c it suits their hate agenda.
In reply to powen001
In your quest to label everything terrorism, you've come up with classic bullshit.
So every murderer that ever killed more than 2 people is a terrorist?
In reply to black
Critical thinking is a lost art. Powen probably doesn't know if he's coming or going.
In Emir's case, his brain is way past critical condition. DOA.
All Emir can see is Muslim this, muslim that. That's his only concern. Trying to keep score with no rationale involved.
In reply to powen001
Really?? So drive-by shooters in 'the hood' are terrorists?
In reply to nitro
I'll have to remember to be armed to the teeth next I show up for church, camouflage suit and all. Church-going is fast becoming a hazardous occupation now, dammit! Have to up my life insurance too ...
In reply to JahJah
In Emir's case, his brain is way past critical condition. DOA
In reply to JahJah
In reply to JahJah
whats the difference?
The very name - DRIVE BY says the approach is to catch someone off guard...
How many innocent people get killed in Drive Bys ...in the Hood?
I dont even care what your agenda is here...but give it some thought...and apply it to my definition and tell me whats missing from your Drive By scenario.
Ill be back here eventually
In reply to black
see what I said to JahJAh.
You however must first define Murder..which is not just intentional but in most cases the victim is pre known and targetted from murder ...not simply in the wrong place at the wrong time....and I aint no lawyer but hey...
for you too I dont know your Agenda but please excrete the Bullshi$ from what I posted so I can amend or update.
Thanks.
In reply to Drapsey
Discharged for assaulting wife and child - never saw combat.
In reply to nitro
KYS
In reply to powen001
Irrelevant.
Terrorist
Have you researched the word/term/concept and it origins.
Not what YOU want it to be. What it really is.
Have you? Is the motive a determinant?
*I mean, Pele used to terrorise defences. A (school) bully terrorises his or her victim.
My agenda: common sense. I don't know yours. Please share.
In reply to Chrissy
In reply to Chrissy
Is it still a "swirly" church?
Just love this spin.
The Texas church massacre could have been worse if not for one man
In reply to powen001
see what I said to JahJAh.
You however must first define Murder..which is not just intentional but in most cases the victim is pre known and targetted from murder ...not simply in the wrong place at the wrong time....and I aint no lawyer but hey...
for you too I dont know your Agenda but please excrete the Bullshi$ from what I posted so I can amend or update.
Thanks.
We can either identify these people and their behaviors in order to prevent future incidents or we can classify all as terrorism and nothing gets done.
Which one is your solution?
In reply to black
Every murderer is a terrorist under powen's definition, which isn't the actual definition of terrorism.
He's acting off emotion.
In reply to Chrissy
I like how you put a good spin on it.
Assaulting wife and children is part for the course.
In reply to Drapsey
Doesn't make it any less true though. The police apparently weren't there yet, so maybe it was good that the guy wasn't able to create more carnage and increase the body count...no?
Now, that doesn't mean everyone should be armed to the teeth like the fools want. I mean, everybody being armed is a colossal receipe for disaster. Just imagine all the hot heads down in Jamaica packing and man step pon anedda 'criss bally boot'.
In reply to black
serious gun control legislation...
lots of people have mental health problems...why give them access to guns?
In reply to ray
I don't disagree.
In reply to JahJah
Yep, I can see it now.
This coward, armed with AR rifle, which he just used to slaughter some 20-plus church goers, dropped the rifle and took off at the sight of an armed villager.
But maybe that's part of the survival skill developed by his US Air Force training.
In reply to powen001
And you call yourself a Christian?
This guy received a bad conduct discharge from the military, served time in a military prison for domestic abuse.
Let's classify them all as terrorists, forget about finding solutions to prevent this from happening in the future.
In reply to Drapsey
yeah it could've been the 'deadlier' deadliest shooting in Texas.
Dem jokey bad yes...
I will reserve my 'lol' as it wouldn't be appropriate in these circumstances,but more and more I listen to Americans the more I realize they haven't changed much .
This shooter's ex mother-in-law attended the church he shot up. She was not there at the time
In reply to Drapsey
You're Jamaican. How many of those so called bad man are brave without a weapon? Those weapons are merely 'dick extension' for the most part.
Even bullies. Dem tough until you step to dem. Then they turn int wall flowers.
Dudes who walk in gangs and feel tough. A lot of them when they're on their own...
Life.
In reply to JahJah
That's why as bad as it looks and as much as they keep saying "look at them" our problems are less than theirs,all kina differently driven sickos,you can't even put your finger on them to begin to assess them and take precautions..
In reply to Chrissy
Seems like we have lots more issues when atrocities are highlighted based on the race of the victims. And in this case, it wasn't blacks who were killed.
In reply to JahJah
I'm just not buying the part about the (coward) mass murderer dropping his gun and running away as soon as the good-guy with a gun shows up.
Even more so with the fact that this part of the story took so long to materialize. The murderous act took place at 11 something yesterday morning. It was some 8 hours or so later that the hero part broke.
When there is a mass shooting by a white American in the USA,and we are told it's someone with"mental health" issues,why then,there is little or no re-action by the authorities.No politician has yet called for an urgent summit about "mental health",problems,no cries for increase funding,no new legislation to regulate treatment,the authorities can at least try.
There is a big difference with terrorist crimes which reshape public debate,and the non terrorist crimes that don't,although the crimes are difficult to tell apart.
In reply to Drapsey
These matters have to be thoroughly investigated in order to get the correct information to the public. A lot of work goes into securing a crime scene, it involves, identifying the victims, the shooter, type of weapons, eyewitness reports, motives, etc. And, all of these things have to be corroborated, including, was the suspect killed by his own weapon or by someone else?
In reply to black
Yes it has to be properly investigated before they decide to make it news,not true,when incidents like this happen in the USA,everybody to a man decides it's a Muslim terrorist.The facts,are plain and simple to understand,mass shootings in the USA outnumber terrorists acts by so called Muslims,white shooters are well ahead of foreign terrorists,suspicions should first fall on white American shooters,but that doesn't happen.Even posters like you would be thinking Muslim terrorists.Has that articulate Snoop Dog said anything,he hasn't because he is just a muslim hater,so many others are like him,objectivity is not their style,they are relegious fanatics just like ISIS.
In reply to granite
I don't think it's that hard to figure out that a guy with a name like "Khalid" could be linked to terrorists, but as far as other details, it takes time just like any other incident.
All shootings are tragic, regardless of who committed them, but most of the defenders of Islam are trying to even the score by classifying all incidents as terrorism. Like I said before, all are tragic and repulsive acts, regardless of who committed them, but to say they are all terrorism, will not be helpful in finding. solutions.
In reply to Mulla bin granite
I see you're daydreaming about me again Bro.
This latest White evangelical Christian mass murderer is not so fundamentally different from your ISIS buddies. They are all peas of the same pod. Religious nutbags who would all dearly love to bring the world back to medieval times.
In reply to SnoopDog
This guy was a nutcase with a history of domestic violence, he was put in jail for cracking a baby's skull.
In reply to SnoopDog
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Claims that he was an Atheist not an Evangelical Christian
In reply to Drapsey
I hear the terrorist went there looking to cap his mother-in-law, didn't find her so he killed all dem other people. SMH.
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