against Sri Lanka, yet he only averages 36.50? How the fu#k is that possible? Someone explain.
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Can you believe Chris Gayle scored a triple ton.
2017-11-08 10:07:04
2017-11-08 10:08:48
In reply to Devin
Hahaa! I was thinking of posting this on the other thread! 
Too much Vaas in him raas!
2017-11-08 10:10:52
Two triples AND a Double, AND a 175...
2017-11-08 10:12:38
In reply to Devin... maths?
2017-11-08 10:29:05
Can you believe Chris Gayle scored a triple ton and Kohli nuh score none!
2017-11-08 10:35:38
In reply to natty_forever
kohli don't have that kinda concentration!
2017-11-08 11:10:31
In reply to natty_forever
Gayle is a far better batsman than Kohli in all formats. That is not debatable.
2017-11-08 11:13:08
In reply to Larr Pullo
All that and an average of 42. Should've done much better with all those high scores.
Pity he could only average above 50 against Bangladesh and an extremely soft New Zealand team.
2017-11-08 11:19:42
In reply to Devin
I realize that you and that fella Khago might be two personalities in the same screwed up brain who only purpose is to come on here and cause commotion. The man avg 42 in test cricket. it doesn't matter how the maths work it out. a 42 avg in test cricket over a career as long as his is nothing to scoff at. So you can hyc and hold a seat with this nonsense conversation.
2017-11-08 12:10:24
In reply to aliaskid13... because everyone will admit CHG is an overachiever!
2017-11-08 12:36:17
In reply to natty_forever
I think he did much better than expected, especially later in his career. Everyone said his lack of footwork and poor technique will guarantee a short career. He has proved everyone wrong to the tune of a 42 avg in test. The universe boss gets my respect.
2017-11-08 13:02:12
I am not scoffing at Gayle's 42 average. As far as I'm concerned, that's a damn good average for an opening batsman.
But there is no fu#king way he was great, as a few morons are suggesting on another thread.
2017-11-08 13:11:54
Gayle isn't a great, even by the utmost agile stretch of the most limber imagination.
2017-11-08 13:12:22
No two ways about it.
2017-11-08 13:22:48
In reply to Devin
Well call me a moron because in the context of West Indies cricket, which is what most of us on here care most about, Chris Gayle is one of our most accomplished batsmen and should be considered one of our greats.
2017-11-08 13:34:41
In reply to Verstehen... great T20 player ... lie?
2017-11-09 03:09:34
What is Koli’s average against Bangladesh?
Anyone?
That is what you call PADDINGton!
2017-11-09 04:48:46
In reply to Halliwell
How is Kohli coming into this picture of Gayle and his alleged greatness?
2017-11-09 06:30:51
In reply to Khaga
The thread starter is basing his hypothesis on a novel premise, by his standards
Just seeking to understand if the metrics and backing data have changed and assumed differential relevance
2017-11-09 07:41:44
Stop hating Gayle great.
2017-11-09 13:20:58
In reply to Halliwell
2017-11-09 16:37:24
In reply to Halliwell
Hmmmmmmm, man you're so dumb, as are all the others here, it's actually quite frightening.
Kohli has played two matches and batted three times against Bangladesh.
Gayle has played seven matches and batted 12 times against Bangladesh.
But this is not about Kohli, Kohli is still trying to establish himself in world cricket.
This is about Gayle, who apparently is a great opener with an average of 42. I guess that means Len Hutton and Sunil Gavaskar are the greatest batsmen of all time. Not just openers.
2017-11-09 16:41:12
In reply to Devin
Usain Bolt is a better runner than Gavaskar
2017-11-09 16:43:19
Chris Gayle being an overachiever in Test cricket still doesn't make him great.
To be honest, it doesn't look like the West Indies ever produced great openers. Although an argument can definitely be made that the greatest opening pair was Haynes and Greenidge.
2017-11-09 16:43:49
In reply to Halliwell
You are slightly more handsome than Shabba Ranks.
2017-11-09 16:48:30
In reply to Devin
Mate, you have strayed from the original thread...but it makes now sense continuing to argue "a great opening batsman" in a vacuum. If one is to pick out a great player, as this discussion is attempting to so do, then criteria need to be developed and understood and agreed upon which can then be used to appraise the various candidates.
It makes absolutely no sense continuing this futile discussion...until then, this argument about "great opening batsman" is otiose.
My great may not be your great and I suspect never be your great.
2017-11-09 17:16:13
In reply to Devin
...To be honest, it doesn't look like the West Indies ever produced great openers. Although an argument can definitely be made that the greatest opening pair was Haynes and Greenidge.
I wish I never read this filth. In very banal and ordinary terms the above is "contradictory garbage."
2017-11-09 22:26:17
Even though Chaminda Vass gave Gayle nightmares with the ball, he still has a healthy average against Sri Lanka.
Here are Gayle's stats against Sri Lanka:
He played seventeen (17) innings with an average of 36.50, which is good batting.
Note: Chaminda Vass took Gayle's wicket seven (7) times, and in those seven times he was out for five zeros.
2017-11-09 23:26:40
In reply to TheTrail
Ummmmmm Gayle scored 333 against Sri Lanka, sans Murali or Vaas. So maybe that's why his average against them isn't single figures.
2017-11-09 23:28:01
In reply to Courtesy
Langer and Hayden made a great opening pair, as did Slater and Taylor(perhaps very good).
Out of those four openers, only one can be considered great; Matthew Hayden.
2017-11-10 02:53:58
In reply to Devin
Simple...Gayle can't pad his average by playing half of his Tests on the dead batting tracks of the Subcontinent.
2017-11-10 06:10:03
In reply to Devin
Why do you say Vaas and Murali? Gayle was back in the hut by the time Murali used to show up..
2017-11-10 07:35:02
In reply to mikesiva
West Indies tracks have been dead for years. Gayle averaged 30 against India from many matches.
2017-11-10 07:36:32
In reply to Courtesy
Gayle averaged in the 30's against four of the nine test playing nations. Two test playing nations during his time were also bonafide minnows.
And when I say in the 30's, I don't mean 38 or 39, more like 30, 31, 36.
2017-11-10 07:48:34
In reply to mikesiva
Vs India:
14 matches, 25 innings, 0 Hundreds, 6 50's, 30.75 average.
2017-11-10 07:54:04
In reply to Khaga
You're right, the only reason I mentioned Murali is because some idiot will claim that Gayle scored his 333 against a Sri Lankan attack that included Murali.
2017-11-10 07:55:53
In reply to Devin
and the 2001 series was played on the subcontinent, not on Mars.. 
2017-11-10 07:56:10
In reply to Devin
Mate, all this fuckery you spew above is irrelevant and meaningless. Unless you can come up with an acceptable methodology to appraise a batsman as "a great opening batsman" this discourse is otiose.
What don't you understand about this?
2017-11-10 08:09:56
Gayle, one of the most explosive batsmen the game has seen, holds a number of records across all forms of the game, including being the only player in the world to have scored a triple hundred in Test cricket, a double hundred in an ODI and a century in a T20 international.
He has scored 15 Test centuries and is one of just four players to have hit two triple centuries at that level, but it is in limited overs cricket where he has forged a reputation as one of the best to have played the game.
He was the first player to reach 200 in a World Cup game and became the first player to score a T20 World Cup century. He also shares the record for the fastest half century in T20 cricket – achieved in just 12 balls.
In total he has hit 18 T20 centuries, marking him out as one of the most destructive batsmen in the business and making him one of the most sought-after players on the nomadic T20 circuit.
He has scored 15 Test centuries and is one of just four players to have hit two triple centuries at that level, but it is in limited overs cricket where he has forged a reputation as one of the best to have played the game.
He was the first player to reach 200 in a World Cup game and became the first player to score a T20 World Cup century. He also shares the record for the fastest half century in T20 cricket – achieved in just 12 balls.
In total he has hit 18 T20 centuries, marking him out as one of the most destructive batsmen in the business and making him one of the most sought-after players on the nomadic T20 circuit.
This reputable newspaper was on point.
You cannot right off or ignore these achievements...can you?
The cricketing world does not seek failures in the opening batting position.
Devin, you may now wish to develop your criteria along these lines.
Now dat should put a stop cork in your arse and end the argument.
2017-11-10 09:18:42
In reply to Courtesy
The quotes you provided deal primarily with limited overs cricket. We are dealing with Tests.
As far as limited overs cricket goes, Gayle was great in the T20 leagues.
2017-11-10 09:35:05
I'll name some great openers, or guys who perhaps just fell short.
Gavaskar - 50.29 average, 34 100's.
Graeme Smith - 49.07 average
Hayden - 50.73 average
Sehwag - 49.34 average.
Boycott - 48.16 average
Len Hutton - 56.47 average
Bill Lawry - 47.15 average
Jack Hobbs - 56.37 average
Herbert Sutcliffe - 61.10 average
They all played over 50 Tests.
2017-11-10 09:43:59
In reply to Devin
Gavaskar scored 34 100s..only Lara among WI's alleged greats scored that many.
2017-11-10 10:21:54
In reply to Khaga
The list I'm quoting is filled with inaccuracies, especially when dealing with players over the past 15-20 years.
Gavaskar is the measuring stick, that is a given.
2017-11-10 10:22:39
In reply to Devin... anyways Dev, this stale, give it a rest.
2017-11-10 12:26:04
In reply to Devin
Gayle score a triple against a prong of Graeme Smith, De Villiers, Prince and Boucher.
2017-11-10 12:52:35
In reply to CricketLuva4
747 all out. Sarwan, Shiv, and DJ Bravo all scored tons. When a $kunt like DJ Bravo scores a Test century, there isn't any explanation needed.
Has the ARG ever produced a result, or has it all been draws? Lara's 400 and 375, Gayle's triple, etc etc?
2017-11-10 13:42:50
In reply to Devin
Gavaskar - 50.29 average, 33 100's.
Gavaskar is the measuring stick, that is a given.
Gavaskar is the measuring stick, that is a given.
Correct is rite!
The greatest opener in the history of cricket!
2017-11-10 13:50:20
In reply to googley
According to Sobers,Gavaskar is the greatest batsman of all time..I respect Sobers' words.
2017-11-10 13:56:37
In reply to natty_forever
I'm not exactly replying to myself.
2017-11-10 13:57:25
In reply to Devin
Is Warner a great opener?
Interesting in your list that only 3 batsmen from the 21st century are "great" or very good openers.
I can see Latham and KL Rahul being added to that list when all is said and done.
2017-11-10 14:18:14
In reply to CricketLuva4
Warner's away average is 38, and it's only that high because of a recent series in Bangladesh in which he averaged 62 odd.
He's scored 14 100's in 59 innings at home, but only 6 from 64 innings away from home.
He may very well end up being great, but for now, he is a home bully.
2017-11-10 14:39:08
In reply to Devin
Agreed RE Warner, he's not in Hayden's class yet.
Hayden scored a ton of runs against India at home.
Also I just noticed you left Cook out.
2017-11-10 14:45:59
Hayden thrived in Asia. His best inings are not against India in India. A couple of knocks against Pakistan in the UAE stand out.
Shallow cricket fans like Drapsey deride his 380 because it was scored against Zimbabwe. But,the true greatness of Hayden stands out from the other knocks all over the world in general and the ones I mentioned in particular..
2017-11-10 14:47:25
In reply to Khaga
Yep, remember that hundred in Dubai I think when Pak got 2 for 1 after OZ only managed 300 odd.
2017-11-10 14:51:22
In reply to CricketLuva4
I have to look up,but Shoaib Aktar bowled a firey spell in one of those,while Hayden stood tall amidst the havoc wrought by Shoaib..
2017-11-10 14:53:36
In reply to Devin
Among the 4 multi triple centurions,only Sehwag's triple helped his team win the match..
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