RACISM: In Caribbean Cricket

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link Boomer Joined: Dec 8, 2007
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7/11/08 6:21:06 PM 
First of all, before CC management get all nervous about the "R" word, the article in the link is an excellent one.

Read this


"The history of West Indies cricket does, though, have a backdrop of racism..."



George Headley was not considered suitable for captaincy because he was black. Jack Grant was made captain of a team that included George, and turned to him for advice. Jack conceded that he knew it was because he was white that he was made captain.



Worrell himself was shocked by the aloof and unsociable behaviour of the touring M.C.C. team in 1954, writing that, "Never once, however, did the members of the M.C.C. party show that they wanted our hospitality, and their attitude distressed us beyond words



That man, Viv Richards would write about how it made the team grimly determined to beat England in 1976 after Tony Greig said he would make them grovel. It had come just after the tour of Australia, where they had been surprised by the hostility of the verbal abuse. The "friendly rivalry" that was revealed in shouts of "You f**k off, you black bastard!" left the team stunned, wrote Richards.



When South Africa toured in 2001, Ntini had already so warmed the hearts of West Indians that spectators pleaded with him as he attacked the West Indies’ batting. “Ntini, don’t forget you’re one ah we,” an Indian man had called out, begging him to show mercy at Queen’s Park Oval.



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Very good article Miss Baksh!!!

By the way, when Ntini's South Africa team toured the West Indies in 2005---many WI fans rooted for Ntini South Africa team against Shiv Chanderpaul's West Indies team.

WHO VEX, VEX--IT'S THE TRUTH!!

Boomer

link Trex Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/11/08 6:23:43 PM 
Booms always has an agenda up his sleeve...
lol

link Boomer Joined: Dec 8, 2007
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7/11/08 6:27:18 PM 
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Booms always has an agenda up his sleeve... big grin


HIGHER STANDARDS my bwoy.big grinlol

link carl0002 Joined: Apr 16, 2003
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7/11/08 6:33:03 PM 
In reply to Boomer
George Headley was not considered suitable for captaincy because he was black.

Boomer we have indeed come a far way since then, so much so that now you are not considered suitable for the WI team if you're white lol

link Boomer Joined: Dec 8, 2007
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7/11/08 6:37:11 PM 
In reply to carl0002
Boomer we have indeed come a far way since then, so much so that now you are not considered suitable for the WI team if you're white big grin


HA HA HA HA! HA!

That's a good observation Carl!!

What's his name again---the man who should be batting at the WI #6 position instead of Dwayne Bravo who has been an absolute failure at that position averaging only 26+.

BN!!!!

Boomer

link BallOil Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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7/11/08 6:38:33 PM 
Wasn't Viv the one that said West Indies is a Black team? Why was he stunned? confused

link Boomer Joined: Dec 8, 2007
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7/11/08 6:42:46 PM 
In reply to BallOil
Wasn't Viv the one that said West Indies is a Black team? Why was he stunned?


Bally:

The Boomer never held that comment by Viv against him---the man never meant to disparge East Indians and their contribution to WI cricket.

But yet many East Indians were offended by Viv's statements.

Those East Indians who criticized Viv needed to be whipped---they were low class and fcuking insecure.

Boomer

link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/11/08 6:51:02 PM 
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Wasn't Viv the one that said West Indies is a Black team? Why was he stunned?


Viv was speaking from an international perspective. Where, if you are not white, you are considered black. do you really think the white English yob differentiates between a person of Indian descent and one of African decent from the Caribbean?

link BallOil Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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7/11/08 6:55:36 PM 
In reply to Boomer

Agreed.

what I was referring to was why Viv stunned from the quote in your lead post above.

link jaydee Joined: Jul 24, 2005
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7/11/08 6:56:40 PM 
In reply to Larr Pullo
I don't wish to engage in that debate, but most Indians are closer genetically to . . .
Well, we all can't wear pink triangles like Jala, just let me say that confused

1. Humans have approximately 30,000 genes. On average, how many genes separate all members of one race from all members of another race?

A. None
B. 1
C. 23
D. 142
E. 1008
F. We don't know


ANSWER
1. A. None

There are no characteristics, no traits, not even one gene that distinguish all members of one so-called race from all members of another race.

link jaydee Joined: Jul 24, 2005
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7/11/08 6:59:15 PM 
ON BLACK

4. Members of a race can be identified by their:

A. Blood group
B. Skin color
C. Ancestry
D. Genes
E. None of the above
F. All of the above


ANSWER:
4. E. None of the above

There are no traits, no characteristics, not even one gene that is present in all members of one so-called race and absent in another. The A, B, and O blood groups can be found in all the world's peoples (the percentage of Estonians and Papua New Guineans with A, B, and O blood are almost exactly identical). Skin color tends to correlate with the earth's geographic latitude not race; sub-Saharan Africans, the Dravidians and Tamils of southern Asia, and Melanesians from the Pacific all have very dark skin. Ancestry is difficult to trace; we all have two parents, four grandparents, etc. If you could trace your family back 30 generations, slightly more than 1,000 years, you'd find one billion ancestors.


COME IN WIFAN AND THAT STUPID NOBEL PRIZE WINNER FOR DNA



lol lol lol

link BallOil Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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7/11/08 7:02:15 PM 
In reply to Larr Pullo

No I don't think so... Apartheid was live and well back in the 70's. As we all know, Blacks, Indians, etc felt the brunt of racism.

Yet, what bothers me, WI players went to SA during this period to play cricket just for the money. confused

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7/11/08 7:03:51 PM 
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and they were banned.

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7/11/08 7:07:42 PM 
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Its the gave of love and unity rolleyes

link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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7/11/08 7:23:03 PM 
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I'm not sure but I was once told that when doing blood transfusions, there is an incompatibility between the blood from a black person and the blood from a white person. This also obtains when looking for marrow to do bone marrow transplants. Maybe one of the MD's on here could make themselves useful and clarify..... lol lol

link BallOil Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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7/11/08 7:30:57 PM 
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GREED started it all and WICB contributed to it by selecting the Kerry boys over the defects...

link OVAL291 Joined: Jun 7, 2004
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7/11/08 7:41:14 PM 
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Wasn't Viv the one that said West Indies is a Black team? Why was he stunned?


Viv was pissed becuz muddies and Trinis like u and Larafan were supporting Pak in 1988 at Bourda and POS......

can't blame him for venting and saying the games should be played at Ant, J'ca and BIM where he would get the support of the home team....

link Boomer Joined: Dec 8, 2007
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7/11/08 7:49:03 PM 
In reply to Larr Pullo
I'm not sure but I was once told that when doing blood transfusions, there is an incompatibility between the blood from a black person and the blood from a white person.


You were told wrong--have your physician explain blood types to you---something to do with red blood cell compatibility and plasma compatibility.



Boomer

link Surya Joined: Jul 12, 2005
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7/11/08 7:51:07 PM 
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Fcukk Viv for being pissed off..Muddies and Trinis will support who they want to just like people of Caribbean origin in England support who they want to! lol

link BallOil Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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7/11/08 8:14:02 PM 
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my sentiments as well. I was going to let this go but Oval291 brought it up again. Looking back at Viv's comments if he was playing an American sport and talking crap like that he would be a goner...

Yet, it was tolerated with no consequence confused

link MarcusGarveyLives Joined: Dec 2, 2002
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7/11/08 8:32:12 PM 
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By the way, when Ntini's South Africa team toured the West Indies in 2005---many WI fans rooted for Ntini South Africa team against Shiv Chanderpaul's West Indies team.

WHO VEX, VEX--IT'S THE TRUTH!!

Boomer

I do not recall this happening. Does anyone else here?

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7/11/08 8:34:17 PM 
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Boomer has NEVER attended a test match in the Caribbean. Pay him no attention.....

link jaydee Joined: Jul 24, 2005
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7/11/08 8:34:30 PM 
In reply to MarcusGarveyLives
Of course its a lie-but who wants to argue with Boomer
There was hurt over the exlcusion of gayle, Sarwan and then lara
But hey, Boomer isn't always that accurate
as he said, he stopped at primary school like his hero lol lol

link Surya Joined: Jul 12, 2005
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7/11/08 8:37:29 PM 
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In a setup like WI, Viv Richards should NOT assume any other nation but Antigua as his home cool

link BallOil Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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7/11/08 8:37:55 PM 
In reply to MarcusGarveyLives

I do not recall this happening. Does anyone else here?


Not because you can't remember or see it doesn't mean it wasn't there.. smile

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