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HEADLINE: BCCI to get part of WICBs W Cup pay
CaribbeanCricket.com
Feb 21, 2015, 4:04:32 PM
The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) will get part of the West Indies payment for participating in the International Cricket Council (ICC) 2015 World Cup that is currently on in New Zealand and Australia.
T&T Guardian understands, from credible sources, that one of the arrangements for the payback of the US$41.97M due for the aborted tour in 2014, is that part proceeds from the West Indies payout at the World Cup will go to the BCCI.
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Commie
Feb 21, 2015, 4:06:19 PM
Thought that would happen.
One pocket to the other.
doosra
Feb 21, 2015, 4:06:55 PM
In reply to Commie
that's rough
u think deh gine cut the players share now?
black
Feb 21, 2015, 4:07:45 PM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
WI slaving for India
Commie
Feb 21, 2015, 4:10:38 PM
In reply to doosra
The players should get 25 percent of WI takings...
Just means now winning becomes more important because the WI share of WC profits have plenty to feed
HumbleCalf
Feb 21, 2015, 4:11:12 PM
Windies cricket poorer.....
Say thanks to Cameron, Wavell, Michael Hall, Bravo and Pollard. All should be banished for life!
doosra
Feb 21, 2015, 4:11:52 PM
In reply to Commie
25% of what is left after BCCI eat.a.food
doosra
Feb 21, 2015, 4:13:28 PM
In reply to HumbleCalf
umble
u wanted reasons for sending cam/a/run out?
black
Feb 21, 2015, 4:13:47 PM
In reply to doosra
25% of what is left after BCCI eat.a.food
don1
Feb 21, 2015, 4:20:00 PM
I just hope this is the final payment and we have not just accepted a US $42 million bill without our own investigation of the validity of the claimed amount.
ponderiver
Feb 21, 2015, 4:23:04 PM
They should not get a penny.When they waved the white flag and ran from Sabina Park,did they compensate us ????
cricketest
Feb 21, 2015, 4:34:54 PM
why are they paying anything to begin with?
silly fcuking rabbit!
Cornfused
Feb 21, 2015, 4:52:09 PM
Ban for life is a bit uncalled for ,reprimanded as some were is the one method . But who reprimands the CEO ?
Priapus
Feb 21, 2015, 5:04:32 PM
So basically WI is India's bitch for the foreseeable future.
tc1
Feb 21, 2015, 5:07:35 PM
How did india arrive at the 41m
Priapus
Feb 21, 2015, 5:11:51 PM
In reply to tc1
How did india arrive at the 41m
From the bookies' enforcers
rhatid
Feb 21, 2015, 6:25:19 PM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
I have three questions:
1. Does that mean that the cricketers who are now playing will take a pay cut
to facilitate this deal?
2. If the answer to question 1. is yes, isn't it unfair to those present
players who were not a part of the fiasco in India.
3. How will the knucklehead Bravo and others from that tour who are not
currently in the side be asked to pay?
I don't think those members of the current team who were not in India should be asked to pay. And I think Bravo and the others who are not currently in the team should be asked to fork their share out of their pockets. And I hope they are not brought back into the side just to have them pay their share from fees.
OUT OF HIS POCKETS!
rhatid
Feb 21, 2015, 6:33:04 PM
In reply to HumbleCalf
What about the meathead Bravo?!
dayne
Feb 21, 2015, 6:43:53 PM
Well hopefully this issue motivates the WI team to win their match against India later in the WC. But this issue should remind fans of how damaging that incident was to WI cricket finances. Everyone who mis-handled the issue should lose some pay.
jacksparrow
Feb 21, 2015, 7:31:35 PM
This might in fact demotivate players if true
Kurt
Feb 21, 2015, 7:35:48 PM
In reply to Commie
Thought that would happen.
HA HA!
Q. Who said that the ICC has no authority to intervene?
A. I'll leave you to fill this one in?
Q. Who said that the ICC would divert part of the WI's proceeds from ICC events such as the WC to the BCCI?
A. That was I.
Q. Who said that the WI would have to make an extra tour to India?
A. That was me again.
black
Feb 21, 2015, 7:36:27 PM
In reply to jacksparrow
This might in fact demotivate players if true
They didn't know this was coming?
black
Feb 21, 2015, 7:38:42 PM
In reply to Kurt
ICC can intervene, but India has a legitimate case
Commie
Feb 21, 2015, 7:42:46 PM
In reply to Kurt
What are you on about.
You realise that the money that WI gets from the WC comes largely itself from TV generated by the same India.
Shouldn't you get back to posting about Pollard and Bravo.
Larr Pullo
Feb 21, 2015, 9:57:22 PM
In reply to Commie
Is this a negotiated decision that came out of some arbitration hearing? Or is this some form of electioneering?
mikesiva
Feb 21, 2015, 10:29:57 PM
I thought the WICB had a cast-iron legal case and they didn't have to give the BCCI a penny....
anandgb
Feb 21, 2015, 11:04:25 PM
Halliwell
Feb 21, 2015, 11:36:51 PM
Hold orn
Allyuh ban bravo and still want he to pay?
Hahahahaha suffer now because of Cameron's arrogance
Go it alone- I sure bravo and Polly and Sunil and Ravi could give 5 more yet as to the promotion bid
Pacy
Feb 21, 2015, 11:44:51 PM
Something Missing here.
WICB said that BCCI claim is not right and they will not agree to it.
Now we hear WICB has agreed to pay part of ICC tournament money and a free tour in Oct.
Interesting that in Garners report he says that he will Meet BCCI to discuss on the 42M payment.
If WICB has agreed to a course then what would Garner Negotiate? Too many Gaps in the story.
Runs
Feb 22, 2015, 12:16:41 AM
Poor West Indies gets even poorer due to incompetency and greed.
db
Feb 22, 2015, 1:30:12 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
After all these years, you guys should know not to trust Guardian cricket related source-based stories.
Walco
Feb 22, 2015, 2:06:49 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Just a few months back there were some village lawyers on here saying that the BCCI had a weak case and the $42 million claim was bogus.
It will be interesting to see if Sri Lanka tour India again later this year.
sudden
Feb 22, 2015, 3:04:08 AM
In reply to Walco
was it Point? or Fanny?
Commie
Feb 22, 2015, 3:22:04 AM
In reply to Larr Pullo
Good question.
Btw..i didn't check. Did this story come from Mamchan.
Never trust that one.
Commie
Feb 22, 2015, 3:22:59 AM
In reply to sudden
Fanny and Pondie.
sudden
Feb 22, 2015, 3:28:59 AM
In reply to Commie
Should have known Pondie was in there somehow. That bloke is never right on any issue. Must be dem jherri curls
Commie
Feb 22, 2015, 3:42:45 AM
In reply to sudden
Staunch defender of the flag.
Only Drapsey can challenge him.
jacksprat
Feb 22, 2015, 4:08:29 AM
If true, no one could really be surprised that the (BCC)ICC ruled this way
positiveg
Feb 22, 2015, 4:41:27 AM
In reply to Larr Pullo
Next thing who decides that $41 million was the figure lost.
if the jokers at WICB give India any money without any justification as to how they arrived at that figure then they are not only immoral, unethical but also spineless.
hubert
Feb 22, 2015, 5:03:33 AM
In reply to mikesiva
The headline says..prt of the WI WC pay . How much is that..The total 42m ? .
how much is the WC pay for WI ?? This I is a bit confused.
The greater point though is confirmation that WI owes the money BCCI says it does and although there is a free tour to india, the weaightier matter is future bi lateral ties starting with 2016 India propsed tour of WI. That is where the rubber will really meet the road and where Garner's intetion to meet with BCCI is key.
Away with Dastardly Dave.
seko
Feb 22, 2015, 5:07:11 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
seko
Feb 22, 2015, 5:27:27 AM
In reply to seko
A rational action is to allow our players to return to India and play for free and apologize to the Indian people and West Indies supporters as to compensate for their thoughtless action. Allow Bravo to lead this team. The board must take charge and allow the BCCI know we are unable to pay $42 million at this time.
rubberd
Feb 22, 2015, 9:36:45 AM
In reply to positiveg
The $42M lost mostly from no cricket on tv, the loss was larger but India was able to mitigate the amount by asking Lanka to fill in and therefore reduce the number of playing days lost.
I think the 1 take away from this fiasco is the understanding that cricket is big business and the amount of money involved.
The really serious sponsorship money avoids West Indies like the plague because of its administrators.
Digicel was able to outmaneuver the bandits, it is unheard of where the sponsor feels it could run the competition better than the owners and initiate a takeover, only in the Caribbean.
I am convinced that Cameron was unaware of the consequences of his actions
in India and should fall on his sword.
West Indies have fallen so far as a marketable product that they games are in the smaller capacity stadiums in New Zealand.
Imagine 86 thousand at MCG and the feeling that 80 thousand from India, that is serious influence.
Kurt
Feb 22, 2015, 4:38:16 PM
In reply to Commie
You realise that the money that WI gets from the WC comes largely itself from TV generated by the same India.
You'll throw out any old sh!te to distract attention, don't you? Then, you accuse others of red herrings!
It is not really relevant which broadcasters pay the ICC the most for the WC rights. What is relevant is that,
as a result of the fiasco in India, the WICB will now only receive a portion of the amount they were due to collect from the ICC for their participation in the World Cup. The remainder will be used as a PARTIAL payment towards the damages suffered by the BCCI.
For the WICB, that $35K is going to cost $35M.
Kurt
Feb 22, 2015, 4:45:59 PM
In reply to rhatid
1. Does that mean that the cricketers who are now playing will take a pay cut
to facilitate this deal?
2. If the answer to question 1. is yes, isn't it unfair to those present
players who were not a part of the fiasco in India.
3. How will the knucklehead Bravo and others from that tour who are not
currently in the side be asked to pay?
1. Yes, this is likely to be the case. Although, after Dave made such a fuss about not being able to change the payment fees to the players, maybe this won't happen.
2. Was it fair to take the money that the players in India were being paid to wear the sponsor's logo and allow the commercial use of their image rights and give it to the players back in the Caribbean?
3. No, the claim for damages was addressed to the WICB and not the WIan players. The BCCI did not have individual contractual agreements with the WI players and as such can not sue for the breach thereof. If the WICB believes that the players acted illegally it is incumbent upon them to sue the players.
Walco
Feb 22, 2015, 4:51:19 PM
In reply to sudden
If memory serves, camos was one tuh
Logic
Feb 22, 2015, 5:08:15 PM
Only way for Cameron to remove BCCI matter as an election issue is to seek a quick settlement of the matter.
Removes the opportunity for Garner to campaign as a potential saviour.
We paid a high price for Cameron's first term and will pay an even higher price for his second.
POINT
Feb 22, 2015, 5:21:20 PM
This is what happens when you have a Rogue Cricket Board , coddled & fawned by its many friends in the Media who willingly excuses its excesses . But delight in being very critical of the Players in order to obscure the numerous failings of those in the governance of Cricket in the Region whose
colossal Arrogance , Lack of Business Acumen
& Ineptness have always landed them in trouble .
Their hatred of the Players is the primary reason why they are now in hoc to the tune of 42 million dollars , propelled by their
Individual & collective hatred ; they failed to take a deep breath , and consider
the ramifications of cancelling the Tour to India .
They did this because they wanted the Players to be blamed for the cancellation of the Tour , but it backfired on them , because the BCCI never mentioned the Players in its proposed lawsuit .
I now fully understand why Sponsors are
are avoiding them like the Plague . Arrogance is a hell of a thing , this is reminds me of the year they decided to go
to the Privy Council , in a matter that also involved Digicel & Stanford . That had to have cost a pretty penny .
But then they are accountable to NO ONE , and the International Cricket Cabal , it seems does not give a damn about the fact that it is Incompetent lacks Vision , and Good Business Acumen ; and continuously
Fritter away money that could have been used to raise the standard of Cricket , and the competitiveness of our Players in the
International Cricket Arena .
They have been for decades assisted in the destruction of Cricket in the Region by their many friends in the Media , who they use to attack the Players while give those in the governance of Cricket the green light to do as they please .
TheTrail
Feb 22, 2015, 5:45:41 PM
In reply to HumbleCalf
Windies cricket poorer.....
Say thanks to Cameron, Wavell, Michael Hall, Bravo and Pollard. All should be banished for life!
You got that right...
And MB Joshua
Commie
Feb 22, 2015, 5:50:22 PM
In reply to Kurt
Nothing is certain as discussions are still ongoing. I note that Mamchan is the journo.
I pointed out that it is money they dont generate on their own anyway. That money is generated by Indian audiences and most of WI revenue is generated by India, so its a MOOT point to say it is THEIR revenue. Its a fine line.
India could at anytime say its taking more money again and cut even more of WI revenue. It was on that basis they cut the revenue from 118m to 81m.
This is more likely the result.
ODIs
POINT
Feb 22, 2015, 6:37:56 PM
In reply to mikesiva
You thought wrong , first of all the BCCI is
a major Player in the ICC . Second of all
the WICB & Cameron acted without considering
the ramifications & repercussions of Canceling the Tour to India .
Thirdly , I get the impression that the International Cricket Cabal did not want their dirty linen between two member Boards ,washed in Public . The matter was
therefore settled Privately .
This means that the WICB & Cameron can continue being Arrogant ; Incompetent &
Fritter away money , since they are not accountable to Anyone on the Planet .
BTW , they can count on their many friends in the Media to perpetually nice to them , while those in the Media skewer the Players .
POINT
Feb 22, 2015, 6:38:52 PM
In reply to Pacy
TALK IS FREAKING CHEAP ; SO ALSO IS BRAVADO
POINT
Feb 22, 2015, 6:40:58 PM
In reply to Runs
You are among those of us who can understand what you stated . I bet Cozier ; Fazeer , and Becca et al aint going to say a word about this .
That aint their job , their job is to be very critical only of the Players , to obscure the numerous failings of those in the governance of Cricket in the Region .They have been doing this now unabated for decades .
Many here dislike the fact that I am critical of the Media , but I simply don't
give a damn , because they are the people
who by their refusal to be very critical of those in the governance of Cricket in the Region , have assisted the latter in being Arrogant ; Incompetent & lacking Business
Acumen .
The end result of this unholy alliance has
gravely affected the unhealthy state of Cricket in the Region , and the competitiveness of our Players in the International Cricket Arena .