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HEADLINE: Why did Cameron refuse to go to India?
CaribbeanCricket.com
Feb 23, 2015, 3:50:45 AM
Was it a lack of foresight – an inability, as it were, to see the forest from the trees – or was it simply the arrogance of a leader corrupted by power? I mean, he was already in Dubai. On a clear day, if you look out the window, you might even spot a member or two from the BCCI. Besides, it would seem to be the most natural thing in the world for him to do. Hence the question: Why in heaven’s name would Cameron risk jeopardizing this close, cozy relationship that the WICB enjoyed with the BCCI? – A relationship that was strengthened after the WICB obliged to a last minute request for a tour of India in 2012.
What is even more baffling is why Cameron would drag the BCCI into this dog fight between the WICB and the players. Over the last few years, we have seen cricket boards around the world (take your pick) falling over themselves trying to get a front row seat with the BCCI. Given the paucity of the WICB, pardon the expression but they do not have a pot to pee pee in, and the relative financial might of the BCCI, why would any leader, any Board president, with a modicum of common sense jeopardize such a coveted position? Interestingly, this fight between the WICB and its players is precisely over the issue of money – specifically, funding for the development of cricket in the region – seen as one of the main reasons for the fall from grace of the great West Indies team. Now we face the real possibility of a $42 M payout, and the cancelation of all bilateral tours with India for the next two years.
It gets worst. We have Cameron’s apparent attempt to discredit the BCCI’s version of events that led up to Indiagate. If you would recall, WICB issued a statement that, somehow, seemed to suggest that the BCCI was misrepresenting the events that resulted in the aborted tour. While one might not go so far as to suggest that Cameron was calling the BCCI liars, it certainly comes pretty close to it. In fact, it was so close that the BCCI’s secretary, Patel, was forced to publish several correspondences between the BCCI and the WICB that purportedly indicated that WICB, in other words, Cameron, took a rather callous attitude to the entire affair and seemed somewhat indifferent to the possibility that the tour might be cancelled.
Is this the leadership that Cameron promised in the last election?
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Ewart
Feb 23, 2015, 4:45:51 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Yawn...
The problem with the murder of Julius Caesar is the vacuum that it caused. The murderers did not think of who should replace him.
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rillo
Feb 23, 2015, 4:45:55 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
i commented on this when it blew up.
Cameron is a liar.
He thinks being president of WICB he is some big shyte. He forgot to look at the standings/ rank of the WI Cricket team.
When the report first came out the BCCI was aghast that Cameron who was in Dubai did not fly over or CALL tbe BCCI to calm things down.
THE WICB IS WRONG.
Cameron knows this and I find it so comical that there is actually countries in the region not being harsh on him because WE will all have to contribute somehow to the 42 mill.
Trinidad already has.
We have 4 players who were sacrificed already.
dayne
Feb 23, 2015, 4:47:10 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Some very good questions asked about the decisions Cameron made during the India tour crisis. However it is puzzling that he is likely to retain his position when it comes to a vote later this year.
carl0002
Feb 23, 2015, 5:02:00 AM
The author must have been giving this some serious thought. A whole 2 months worth. Pity he could not come up with something better given the amount of thought he put into it.
don1
Feb 23, 2015, 5:04:17 AM
In reply to rillo
You mean the same players that said they not playing?
WICB is at fault, but the players led a revolt.
The biggest mistake the WICB made, was not sending a replacement 11 on the next plane, whether India liked it or not. Then there would be no claim to answer to.
In that respect they were not very strategic.
bobby
Feb 23, 2015, 6:40:52 AM
In reply to don1
And you are saying that something is wrong with revolting against an unjust system? You had better check your history.
Gupta
Feb 23, 2015, 6:53:21 AM
In reply to carl0002
Pity he could not come up with something better given the amount of thought he put into it
Can YOU come with something better? Do you know how little of how much thought he put in it?
Walco
Feb 23, 2015, 7:08:01 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
I am convinced that if he had gone from Dubai to India and met with the players face-to-face (in other words shown some leadership) a compromise would have been reached and that tour would not have been aborted. He has now clue how to manage a crisis. Indeed, three months after the aborted tour, he probably has not yet figured out there was a crisis back in November.
carl0002
Feb 23, 2015, 7:14:12 AM
doublecentury
Feb 23, 2015, 7:18:15 AM
In reply to Walco
That's right I think.
Nobody explained the new mou to the players
Nobody explained the new contracts to the players
Players got contracts in India with material changes
He wanted to call off the tour before the first game but Patel persuaded them to stay.
He did cancel the tour while they were playing rather than respond
Idiot.
Pacy
Feb 23, 2015, 8:43:13 AM
In reply to don1
Players questioned the salary reduction which was not communicated earlier... WICB / WIPA representatives should have gone there or reached out to them to discuss on the issue. Why they did not is the most interesting question.
Players decided to pull out a good 15 days after their initial discontent.
POINT
Feb 23, 2015, 10:49:59 AM
I wish to congratulate the Author of this
Article , for his testicular Fortitude in stating , what people like Cozier , Fazeer ;
Becca et al bluntly refuse to do , yet they
Masquerade in the Region as Sports Journalists, in essence they are playing Carnival every day .
The Author missed two very important points . First Cameron by himself aint the WICB ,
IT AINT A ONE MAN SHOW .
Secondly , it has recently come to light that other Members of the WICB agreed with Cameron in cancelling the Tour to India . It would be remiss of me if I did not state
that weeks ago , I stated in this Forum
that Cameron on major decision is not empowered to act on his own .
He has to get the green light from the the Presidents of the Regional Boards & their Deputies . Why ?? Because they gave him his
Job as the President of the WICB .
The fact that they gave him his job , obviously means that THEY have more power than Cameron has .
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PART TWO .
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This is precisely why , simply criticizing
Cameron alone is a big mistake . THE WHOLE
BOARD NEEDS TO GO . STATING THAT ONLY ONE
ROTTEN APPLE MUST BE REMOVED FROM A BASKET
OF ROTTEN APPLES IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE .
ALL THE ROTTEN APPLES MUST BE REMOVED .
REMOVING ONLY ONE ROTTEN APPLE AINT
MAGICALLY GOING TO TRANSFORM THE OTHER
ROTTEN APPLES TO BE PALATABLE .
Apparently , many here and the Region think
otherwise . But that is not ever going to
happen . The reason why the WICB is in this mess is due to the fact that they have never been known to think things through
clearly ; or have careful deliberations before making decisions .
They failed to consider all the ramifications & possible repercussions that
would occur by cancelling the Tour to India
had they done that , perhaps cooler heads would have prevailed & Cameron would have
gone to India from Dubai , and settle the matter .
This aint the first time that they have had to pay for their Arrogance . The matter that went to the Privy Council , that involved the WICB ; Digicel & Stanford easily comes to mind . I am sure that there are others , and that there will be more
incidents that will fritter away their financial resources .
Now obviously if they were accountable to
a higher Authority , they would never be doing these things . They would have to be more circumspect regarding their Stewardship of Cricket in the Region .
It seems that not even the ICC can rein in these Arrogant , Incompetent ; and visionless People whose Business Acumen is at zero ; in regard to Cricket in the Region .
Babylon
Feb 23, 2015, 6:35:07 PM
In reply to POINT
bro ICC aint gwine do shite. U haff to clean up ur own mess is ICC position. Is a numbers game and Cameron got wot he need rite now.
Drapsey
Feb 23, 2015, 6:44:36 PM
In reply to POINT
Come on POINT, that's way below your standards.
Your posts are usually twice as long.
Babylon
Feb 23, 2015, 7:15:37 PM
In reply to Drapsey
him good fe a laugh
Angel
Feb 23, 2015, 7:27:36 PM
In reply to Babylon
He makes good observations but what about solution? Monday morning QB?
Babylon
Feb 23, 2015, 8:17:28 PM
In reply to Angel
Point him a wind bag. Nuff taak dats all