He retired from Test cricket last year and many thought it was too soon but Dwayne Bravo is likely to make an about turn and make himself available for Test cricket again.
Sources close to the all-rounder said he is showing an interest into coming back into Test cricket under the new coach Phil Simmons. “Dwayne made a call on his Test career at a difficult time but has since realised that there is still a place in Test cricket for him and under the new coach, he is likely to make a turn and make himself available.”

The source added that this call from Bravo is likely to come soon, as he looks to get back into “whites” where he has a decent record as an all-rounder. 
“People are saying that the West Indies team needs a fifth bowler and that by having Jason Holder on the team, the balance is not right. However, having Jason Holder there, opens the team for a return for Bravo because you can now sacrifice a batsman and bring in Bravo who together with Holder will give you runs and be able to take wickets.”

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In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

If Bravo comes back the present players should resign from test cricket

I do hope I'll never see him in West Indian colour again.
Maybe Andre Russell but certainly not Dwayne Bravo.

Show Pony needs to stay away from WI cricket--After what he a his Henchmen did in India no way he plays for WI anymore--

I can see ARussell in WI whites--Plus, JHolder is doing a great job--No need for Show Pony Bravo--

We cannot decide what he should do

he needs to play first class cricket, prove himself ready, and make himself available for selection. then it will be over to Mr. Lloyd and co.

it's a long ahead

is there a world cup around the corner soon?

In reply to sudden


You should resign as well.

In reply to buds


That show pony better than those you mention,he will be back and should be back.

In reply to Raggs


You are not serious,bravo is better by far.

What would the show pony experts call a bowler who conceded 50 runs in 4 overs with 1 wicket ?

I think if Lloyd gets his way, Bravo would never play for WI again. He cost the WICB and the Caricom region 42 million dollars, which bankrupt organization would invite someone like him back.

In reply to granite

Why can't Bravo stay in IPL and other T20 leagues around the globe and make money like unnuh like to point out? Why try to come to test cricket to cause Controversy and Cornfused the team?

Bravo's retirement from test cricket was a moot point if only because he couldn't make the team anyway. Apart from proving that he doesn't have the capacity to make up his mind, why then would we think there is any significance to his reversal of that decision?

In reply to granite

Pipe dream--

So because his countryman Simmons is coach he is having second thoughts? That shows how(what) he thinks about WI cricket--It says a lot about his mentality and attitude..

In reply to buds

If Simmons were to use his influence as WI Head Coach to include his countryman Bravo in any West Indies Test Team, I humbly predict that he would soon be crawling on hands and knees back to the Emerald Isle.

Bravo likes to be in the center of events or people's attention, didn't he run for political office in Trinidad lately, isn't he a part-time Soca artist, what else?

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

That is putting pressure on Simmo. This is like saying that he had no chance with the old coach but would be more favourable to the new one

In reply to Raggs

Great day for WI cricket. Definitely the best allrounder in the WI at the moment from test to t20. Let the usual jingoistic culprits cry me a river. He brought sanity to WI cricket by taking on the bandits but the idiots here have absolved the WI and Clive Lloyd of all all the blame. It is obvious that Simmons had a say in his decision to return.

If it would mean the sudden (pun intended) end of of some posters even better for WI cricket.

In reply to Drapsey

If Simmons could include Samuels, who is a snake and is of less value to the team than Bravo, why should he not ask Bravo back? He would be jumping, not crawling, from 8 all the way up to 3 at the very least.

In reply to eric365

I know u don't believe the shoite u just posting

In reply to tc1

As usual you know very little. Evrything I post is cricket gospel. It is both your place and position at birth that causes your slowness, no shame in that celebrate it as much as you can.

In reply to Cornfused

If you're making reference to Russell, his biggest problem this IPL season is finding space to store all those MOM trophies. If there were such a category in the statistics, he would certainly be leading by an insurmountable margin.

In reply to eric365

Shoot, I've never seen such arrogance posted.

Mr. Bravo the showman should not be allowed to walk into our Test team because of a dismal past Test record. And there's the recent India event…

No no Mr Bravo there should be no way back for you..

After reading crap from both sides of the Bravo divide,I despair at the lack of intelligence displayed on this board.
If you are genuinely interested in West Indies cricket being the best it can be,you have to welcome Bravo back into contention for a test place.Let him compete for a place in the West Indies test team.He has to earn his way back into the team by performing with both bat and ball in first class cricket.If he performs he will be selected.If he does not he will not be selected.It should be as simple as that.

In reply to Dukes

Zackly

In reply to Dukes
Exactly. I am a Bravo supporter and always wanted on the test team. But he made his bed. Now if he wants to undo it then all the better for West-Indies cricket. Maybe he should stay away from the whites and allow this team to grow.
but it Would be really good if all the West-Indies all rounders would commit to regional cricket. Bravo is the better bat and decent bowler. Rusell, quick and can be better at both. Holder can be equally good with both bat and ball.

In reply to eric365

By the way, Simmons did not 'include' Samuels, he inherited him.

In reply to Dukes

And when he's selected and ipl come calling in the middle of a test series....what happens then?

The last Trini coach was scalped by a Trini. Lets see if Simmons is more savvy than Logie.

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

That's absolutely ridiculous. He is not needed. Not good enough to make the team if you consider the sort of line up we have. We need a pure bat.
This is a big joke. A backward step.

Some team harmony and Test fighting spirit with new players except Samuels-Shiv on his way out and one wants to bring back disruption?!

The team at present has no one IPL wants so leave it be. If one develops and IPL comes calling there will be another to take his place. The Test grooming under Lloyd has begun;only players with little to no IPL attractiveness will be selected.

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

As I have said,he should only be selected if he performs well with both bat and ball.In addition before he is selected he would have to declare his availability for what ever test series we are about to play.
Bottom Line.He would have EARNED HIS SELECTION!!!!!!!

In reply to Dukes

As you could see from WI regional cricket, earning a selection isn't difficult.

At some point you have to weigh the value of Bravo as a cricketer and a personality within the Test team and look to move forward.

Else you risk destroying any green shoots of promise.

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

De man going in like he's Jordan or so. And even when Jordan came back he was no where close to what he once was.

In reply to Dukes

It should indeed.

But... while Bravo is a good allrounder, I don't think for one moment that it was any failure in his batting or bowling abilities that led to his not being a member of the team now.

Do you??

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In reply to Ewart

You are so right!

Bravo was never dropped for any cricketing reasons, but in furtherance of an agenda.

First, he was excluded to accommodate someone who was otherwise incapable of making the team on merit, and who was demonstrably inferior as a a cricketer. Later, there were 3 vocal "ringleaders" of that ill-fated tour to Indian-Bravo, Sammy & Pollard.

Bravo & Pollard paid the penalty for that action-regardless of the garbage the selectors would have us believe-yet the third ringleader was curiously pardoned for being part of the fiasco in India, by being included in the squad to the World Cup 2015.

The agenda was so clear!

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

In my view, if West Indies pick their best One Day eleven, Dwayne Bravo should make the team. But I can't see him making the West Indies Test team unless someone gets injured. I think Dwayne Bravo's days as a Test cricketer are over.

Welcome back, Dwayne Bravo!

In reply to Dukes

At last a post ....that makes sense!

In reply to Commie

Having conceded that he will add value you resort once more to disqualifying him on intangibles

Transparent pants

In reply to Dukes

That's the crux of the matter. Most want either their countrymen in the WI team or some means of profiting financially from the team.

"West Indies cricket being the best it can be"? What are you talking about? You are talking to folks who embrace bad government and corruption as a way of life!

In reply to Commie

Bravo might find it is not so easy.He has had limited success in first class cricket for T&T.The last time Bravo scored a century for Trinidad and Tobago was in 2004.He averages 30.79 with the bat for T&T and has played several matches for T&T where he did not bowl.I suggest you examine his record for T&T and do not assume anything.

When shai hope and others are selected, exceptional players like bravo and pollard can walk into the team..

They don't need to prove themselves because they have already done that...

I am Bravo, I can walk into the West Indies Test team when I feel like it...

In reply to Halliwell

Add value how?

You have a number of young players emerging and you want to step back in time to do what?

Has Bravo mentored even one Trini cricketer to success?

Every time there is an attempt to make a move in a new direction the usual suspects pop up.

Bravo has been playing for WI in all forms for over 10 years. File him under been there done that and move on.

bravo adds absolutely noting to our test team
maybe in one days and 2020 but not test cricket

In reply to Dukes

agree

Interesting debate about Bravo. I would add just one thing...Bravo is not a test bowler. He is an excellent T20 bowler and a decent 1 day bowler...but in test cricket he would be less usefuĺ than Samuels.

In reply to jacksprat

I am pleased that there at least a few people who do not have selective dementia on this board.

In reply to Dukes

exactly... Hatred is not allowing people to see real value that Bravo brings to this team.

Bravo's record and contribution is better than most of the allrounders we had and he had a good 2014 which was not far away. Unfortunate that people try to pin the blame for the India debacle on him while other players in the episode are happily enjoying without any blame.

In reply to Commie

Add Value with his performance. Look at his record and he is better than most of the Allrounders WI has produced.

Dont Understand why he should mentor anyone. Who has Shiv, Marlon, Sammy etc Mentor? Interestingly Blackwood says he was mentored by Gayle and Russel who are outcasts in WI team.

Bravo is still 31 and if he wants to play test and the coach is willing to have him in his team who is anyone to question? Afterall inferior Sammy played for WI for 3 uninterrupted years withouth offering anything to the team.

In reply to Pacy

Sammy
Bravo

Its all much of a muchness.

No to Bravo for Tests.

Had WI lost the series, you can guarantee that he wouldnt have said peep. Now there seems to be some positive vibes around the team, voila, up come the bandwaggoners to try to sell some chalo chalo.

In reply to Commie

bull... Bravo said from before that when Simmons was appointed he would re consider coming back...

and this was before the test win, so you are spreading lies and propaganda..

and to be honest, it's a forgone conclusion, there will be changes to the team and most of you insular fools won't like them when simmons makes them...

just warning you from now..

why don't you post the batting average as well, instead of just the bowling average??? last time i checked bravo is being selected as a batting all rounder

In reply to Commie

You are the one worried about Bravo coming back and thus trying to start your smear campaign again. I had always stated that Bravo is the best allrounder in the Caribbean.


Bravo: Batting Average of 31.5 and Bowling average of 40....

Sammy: Batting Average of 21 and Bowlin average of 36...

What the stats do not say is that Bravo played majority against major teams while Sammy's record is against? Still Bravo is a much better batsman

In reply to Pacy

How does Sammy come in to this??
We have moved on to Jason Holder who is a better bowler than Bravo and potentially a better batsman.

Bravo coming back is a no brainer ..... he is an influential player on and off the field.
He knows the movers and shakers in the BCCI and the experience gained in India will be invaluable as we move forward with the revamping of our cricket

In reply to ponderiver

I hear he is a good negotiator too. He could use his closeness to the BCCI movers and shakers to negotiate some form of amicable settlement to that outstanding $42 million claim in which some say he was culpable.

In reply to ponderiver

In reply to Dukes

Sammy is like their Burnham. A lightning rod for all their missteps.

I'm sorry but you can't move on in any organisation without leaving the past behind. Bringing Bravo back in Tests is a retrograde step IMO.

In reply to Pacy

Worried ?

Not at all.

These things don't get decided on a message board.

The selectors and coach and captain will weigh the pros and cons of Bravo and will decide. I will support the team as always. My opinion is that you have to cut with that generation.

Happy Mothers day BTW.

In reply to Commie

Same to you Commie. Have a great Mother Day.

In reply to Commie

I see you are comparing Scammy & Bravo`s `bowling stats`.

You do realize that NONE of Bravo`s 86 wkts..

... were vs minnows Zim & Bangla??

....also the fact that Bravo was a batting allrounder....whereas Scammy was selected as a BOWLER?

If you now go back and check you will find...
Scammy`s stats reads 62 @ 39.5

So the batting allrounder Bravo
reads..86 @ 39

Bowler Scammy reads...62 @ 39

In reply to Pacy

Wrong!
Bravo played ALL his games vs the top 7.

Btw,Scammys rec. was in his debut match vs England.
I suppose you`ve heard the saying "beginers` luck"

In reply to Dukes

better bowler than bravo is debatable... holder lost us the 2nd test because of no wickets...

bravo i doubt would have gone wicketless and bravo would have also scored runs...

In reply to Controversy

21.1 overs 0-57 are not great figures but it is 2.69 runs per over.
Compare that to 28 overs 0-100 for Kemar Roach but you think that Holder and not Roach lost us the second test!!!!!
BTW Who saved us the first test?????????
You tell me when was the last time that Bravo changed the result of a test match so decisively.
Holder is 23 years old and as a bowler is LIKELY TO GET BETTER.His current test bowling average is 34.46 with 13 wickets in 6 test matches an economy rate of 2.79 and a strike rate of 74.23
Bravo has 86 wickets from 40 tests at 39.84 an economy rate of 3.18 and a strike rate of 75.19
Bravo is 31 years old so is quite unlikely to get better.Bravo has to earn his way back into the test team by performing well in first class cricket.He has not done that for some time and I suggest that it will not be easy.His batting record for T&T is quite poor with an average of 30.79 and 2 of his total of 3 centuries were against a weak ass West Indies B team and he has ZERO centuries against Guyana,Barbados or Jamaica.He has a lot of work to do!!!!

In reply to Dukes

Bravo didn't have the luxury in his early years of having ambrose as a bowling coach and he sustained injuries that stunted his career sadly...

roach was the bigger reason we lost but holder was also at fault as well... this was never a bravo vs. holder thread, i believe holder will get better and hopefully he gets up in the 90s regularly in the future as he gets stronger..

but pitting bravo against him and saying bravo is not as good is ridiculous, in aussieland the logic was to select test players at the age of 30 because of maturity and experience for the test team.. bravo went through worse turmoils when he started his career than holder... holder has less pressure and has a better coach and bowling coach...

so i can't agree with you fully on your assessment of bravo

In reply to Controversy

No Controversy about this `post`.

You got old sideburn plumb LBW

....playing down the wrong line!

In reply to Dukes

I will agree to disagree with you on this Dukes.But time has a way of proving many people wrong. I believe that Bravo is the better allrounder but I respect your assessment because you have never waved a flag on this board either to support or disparage. Respect!!

In reply to Controversy

If Bravo is playing as an all-rounder he will have to displace Holder.The concept of 2 all-rounders in a test team is possible but I think we should play our best 6 batsmen.Unfortunately for Bravo there are no first class matches for him to stake his claim for the 2 tests against Australia.
I would be astonished if Bravo is selected for this Australian series.
Bravo needs to start making centuries to get into the team as a batsman.

In reply to Dukes

How about devon smith?

In reply to Wally-1

Been there done that.Devon Smith should NEVER PLAY TEST CRICKET AGAIN

As it stands Bravo is a ready made replacement for Shiv in the middle order.
He brings bowling batting and fielding not to mention the little matter of experience

its a no brainer..... anyone who says otherwise has an agenda that goes beyond the cricket to the personal

In reply to ponderiver

there is no place for two bits and pieces in a test team.

In reply to ponderiver

We are looking for a BATSMAN.

Bravo is not playing test cricket for the West Indies until and unless he hits a century in a first class match.You need to figure out when he will have such an opportunity and then his return will be after that.

In reply to Wally-1

I agree ..... we got rid of the first two bits..... shiv is the next piece

In reply to Dukes

Holding, inspite of his promise, is not up there with Bravo. If some posters were okay to accept Sammy ahead of Bravo for Non Cricketing reasons why not Bravo ahead of Holder.

Suddenly people preaching performance. I still have Bravo as a Better allrounder than Holder.

In reply to Dukes

He did play this season untill he decided to retire this year.

In reply to Pacy
I agree that Dwayne Bravo is a much better all-rounder than J Holder - especially as a batsman. Holder needs to show he could score runs in the top order to start comparing with Big B.

As a bowler they both have their specific strengths, that would complement each other nicely.

As an entertainer, Big B is in a special group, with Gayle, Russell and possibly Sammy only.

In reply to sunfish

BRAVO is no good for Tests !
WEST INDIES does not need BRAVO

If Bravo is better than Holder, I AM 300 YEARS OLD !!

In reply to Pacy Holder played as the 3rd seamer in the test matches. There were questions as to whether his bowling is strong enough to be the first change bowler....but are you suggesting that Bravo is a better test bowler than Holder - even now (forget about the 23 yr old's development potential).

I would contend that at test cricket level even Samuel's bowling would be more useful than Bravo's. But I would love to hear your views.

In reply to ponderiver

LOL LOL LOL

In reply to Commie

Who scalped him ?

In reply to casiba

You mean 3 dont you?

Bravo hasn`t played test cricket for 5yrs..
..and since you are only 3...thats before your time.

In reply to casiba

His then cappo.

In reply to Pacy

NO HE DID NOT.

Here are his last 3 matches

1
2
3

Please note the dates of these matches and his bowling and batting.

The more the merrier. The more depth the better.
I think holder is already better and has the potential to be a lot more dangerous with the ball in tests because
he is quicker and taller. Bravo is I think a really good odi/t20 bowler who could do an ok job at test level.
Batting-wise bravo could have been a really good test bat.
I love watching him but he is LOOSE! Holder again looks like a fine player with a tighter technique.
Bravo is a good player and I would welcome him back.

In reply to Pacy

Bravo can easily make the team, he is not better than Holder.

Bravo took a couple of really outstanding catches, plus a few wickets, in addition to scoring a few runs for his team today in India.

Let's see the youngsters match that, or even try to.

In reply to eric365

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In reply to Pacy

0-0 is still 0, Sammy equal bravo,

bravo equal sammy

In reply to eric365

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u have made the dean list, get your diploma and move to the top of the class

In reply to tc1

If you believe so

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

...Bravo to make about turn... to his test cricket retirement rocking chair

In reply to Norm Thats why he plays only in that format for WI. BTW the same youngsters held their catches and took at least 3 apiece in wickets. Easier to get wickets in T20 format as overs run out or scoring rate lowers.

If he returns he should open the batting.

In reply to Dukes

I see that. I got confused with his ODI representation with his FC representation. So it makes him ineligible for this year.

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

About turn huh ! Dat turncoat ? We seem to have short memories. He once listed his loyalties to the teams he represents as His IPL team, then his T&T team, then Windies team. That was his order of loyalty/importance to him.

He refused contracts he was offered. Again showing he cares little for Windies.

Then he was the main instigator in the India fiasco. So now he wants to forget all and come back ? Well I do not care about whether he is a good allrounder or even the best. As a supporter I personally do not want to see him in Windies colours again ever.

I hope his antics and stupidity do not rub off on Darren.